Mid 1990s SEBO Automatic X1

[marcusprit]

Oh yes Sebo's are fantastic!

 

[daknx1994]

Matt I am sure you will love that Sebo. They may not be the best deep cleaners but they sure are one of the best all around upright vacuums. I have a Century 400 UVac which is the same as a Sebo Essential G, and it is one of my go to machines when I want to clean quick and easily. The machine is so user friendly and really feels durable in use. Let us know how you get on with it once you receive it.

 

[marcusprit]

You say Sebo's aren't deep cleaners. They won't clean as deep as a direct air motor but for a clean air motor they are up there with the best!

 

[sebo_fan]

The days of deep cleaning are off for me - especially with wool carpets. Even when I wash them with my Bissell I have to be quick - too much wool comes off because of the aggressive brush roll.

 

[poconovacman]

Sebo-Fan, I dropped you a line. Thanks!

 

[daknx1994]

marcusprit...

Sebo's are pretty good for a clean air machine yes, but they do not have a real aggressive brushroll and not the most airflow for true deep cleaning. However I find that on most carpets Sebo performs really well. The thing I like most about them is how robust they are and are extremely user friendly.

 

[Reflector]

Enough airflow once you use synthetic bags

I'm going to say that the X4's airflow dramatically increases once you use the synthetic bags. Previously my X4's motor was really the only thing I heard from it in normal operation. After I replaced the paper bags with a generic syntheic bag I can hear the sound of rushing air over the motor. The same applies to my C3.1, previously the power nozzle was the loudest part thing, now the sound of rushing air competes against the PN.

 

[marcusprit]

You can take agitation too far, ok it might clean better but it will also wear your carpets prematurely. It's all about getting the right balance which i think Sebo do well.

 

[poconovacman]

I think Mark is right on the money with all his points

 

[Reflector]

Blah, a correction

Sorry: "previously the power nozzle was the loudest part thing," should be "previously the power nozzle was the loudest part of the vacuum." I wrote that without checking the preview over again after doing some edits earlier.

As to agitation: If a X doesn't provide enough agitation, a Sebo Essential G or a 370 has manual adjustment, as do the the ET nozzles. You can set them all the way down. However in my experience of using the X4 using the green brushroll ("For delicate carpets." My X4 was second hand it came with the green brushroll.) alongside the C3.1 with the ET-1 (Has the normal blue brushroll) set to the lowest height and with the X4's automatic adjustment, I haven't had any issues pulling larger particulate out of some rugs. Abeit I think the X4 is a little more "grabby" than the ET-1 on a wand when it nails the height adjustment, it seems to want to pull forward with more force. The X4's head seems to vibrate carpet infront of it moreso than the ET-1 nozzle from my experience.

But I wouldn't go as far to claim that the Sebos would compete against some of the machines with the brushrolls with the beater elements molded into them or some of the uprights with really aggressive brushrolls. Like the Bissell Powerglide Lift Off that Roger has a video review on Youtube.

 

[daknx1994]

Yes there is an extreme to agitation I am by no means saying the Sebo is weak if you would actually read the post, if someone wants poor agitation Oreck is one of the top. Yes Sebo actually do get some things right for a modern plastic vac, that is why I own one of them. I have used everything from a Riccar, Simplicity and a Sanitaire which are known for having some of the most aggressive brushrolls on my 15 year old plush carpeting. So far after all these years I have not noticed any excessive carpet wear, so these other manufacture must be doing something right.

 

[marcusprit]

I have used a Riccar Brilliance, it is a very impressive machine and yes it does have aggressive agitation. I would have thought aggressive agitation would wear carpets faster than less aggressive agitation but I may be wrong. I often am )

 

[turbo500]

Marcus you're spot on. A brushroll that's too aggressive will damage a carpet more than save it. That's why the old Hoovers were so good - the smooth, metal beater didn't damage the carpet, but agitated enough to remove the deep down dirt.

 

[marcusprit]

Yes Chris I've seen videos of the Turbo power 1 and 2. Great brushrolls.

 

[turbo500]

The TP1 & 2 had a different brushroll. I was referring more to the Junior's & Seniors.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh haha.I like the Turbo powers. My mother had a Hoover junior. The filtration was terrible. Sucked in one end blew it out the other
Did the turbo powers have a beater bar?

 

[turbo500]

Yes, but it was very different to the older style. Despite being more flimsy than the previous Hoovers, the Turbopower's & Turbomasters were one of the best carpet cleaners ever made.

Which TP Junior was it?

 

[marcusprit]

Yes I was impressed in the video.

It was the one with the brown bag.

 

[turbo500]

Here are the 2. The first one is the senior brushroll, with 2 rows of bristles and 2 solid, metal beater bars.

The second one is the Hoover Activator that came with the Turbopower, later juniors, Turbopower 2 and early Purepowers. The beaters are moulded as part of the roller and spread out around the whole brushroll.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh yeah they are very nice brushrolls. Why did the beater bar go out of fashion? Did the wear quickly?