turbo500
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Does anybody have any update on this? I'm wondering how brands like Kirby and Vorwerk have managed to escape the EU ratings labels. Not that the labels are worth the paper they're printed on.
Kirby EU Energy ratings?
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spiraclean
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Chris, see link below for Vorwerk VK150 and VK200 energy labels. Can't find anything anywhere for Kirby though.
http://https//kobold.vorwerk.co.uk/service/service-overview/energy-label/
http://https//kobold.vorwerk.co.uk/service/service-overview/energy-label/
alexhoovers94
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It is probably because they are sold door to door or through dealers and not sold in retail shops.
vacerator
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You kow what they say;
"Cleveland rocks!" That's where Kirby's are made, Vita-Mix, and where Healthmor is, the Filter Queen parent company. Also where the Rock and Roll hall of fame is.
No longer the mistake on the lake, it's remake on the lake or the north coast.
It is also where the TTI floor care distribution headquarters is, todays Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Oreck.
Has BBC or Granada, etc. TV ever aired the Drew Carey show?
"We're goin' bowling, moon over Parma tonight! He grew up there, and Patricia Heaton is from Brook Park, just east of Lakewood.
"Cleveland rocks!" That's where Kirby's are made, Vita-Mix, and where Healthmor is, the Filter Queen parent company. Also where the Rock and Roll hall of fame is.
No longer the mistake on the lake, it's remake on the lake or the north coast.
It is also where the TTI floor care distribution headquarters is, todays Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Oreck.
Has BBC or Granada, etc. TV ever aired the Drew Carey show?
"We're goin' bowling, moon over Parma tonight! He grew up there, and Patricia Heaton is from Brook Park, just east of Lakewood.
turbo500
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probably because they are sold door to door
So are Vorwerk but they've not escaped the rating system.
So are Vorwerk but they've not escaped the rating system.
alexhoovers94
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Aww, I am not sure then, maybe because they are made in America? And an American company?
vacerator
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Could be why Alex!
The TTI products are all form China now.
Perhaps the motors used in Kirby's can be fitted with a simpler speed limiter because they are very durable and will not fail when their windings are running warmer when connected to a resistance rheostat. Slower speed, less current draw, while the large fan still makes plenty of power to clean.
Not sure on that, just an educated guess.
I've toyed with motors a bit. I replaced a 3 pole motor once with a 5 pole armature in one of my ho scale model locomotives, and it runs faster with less current draw. Same voltage, same amperage.
Once a motor is spinning, providing the bearings are vey free moving, the current cycling of AC current also has coasting properties. For each push of current pulse, there is also a coast between pulses.
Anyhow, back in Cleveland last night, the Chicago Cubs won their first baseball world series since 1908! The Cleveland Indians also have a strong team. The game went over the 8 innings when it was tied.
Amazing! Wrigley field in Chicago didn't even have lights for night games 30 years ago either.
The TTI products are all form China now.
Perhaps the motors used in Kirby's can be fitted with a simpler speed limiter because they are very durable and will not fail when their windings are running warmer when connected to a resistance rheostat. Slower speed, less current draw, while the large fan still makes plenty of power to clean.
Not sure on that, just an educated guess.
I've toyed with motors a bit. I replaced a 3 pole motor once with a 5 pole armature in one of my ho scale model locomotives, and it runs faster with less current draw. Same voltage, same amperage.
Once a motor is spinning, providing the bearings are vey free moving, the current cycling of AC current also has coasting properties. For each push of current pulse, there is also a coast between pulses.
Anyhow, back in Cleveland last night, the Chicago Cubs won their first baseball world series since 1908! The Cleveland Indians also have a strong team. The game went over the 8 innings when it was tied.
Amazing! Wrigley field in Chicago didn't even have lights for night games 30 years ago either.
turbo500
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certain cleaners are exempt from the regulations - multifunctional machines like George, carpet washers and commercial vacs are all not affected. Maybe Kirby found a loop hole in that?
sptyks
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Well, I think Kirby would be considered a multifunctional machine since it can be converted into multiple modes.
alexhoovers94
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Chris...
Yes you are probably correct there, the Kirby is a multifuction vac.
Yes you are probably correct there, the Kirby is a multifuction vac.
sensotronic
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The F rating for dust emissions is the carbon dust escaping similar to the Sebo X series.
88 dB yes it's quite noisy but a C rating for performance on carpet? That is ridiculous! The Kirby has fantastic airflow and deep cleans carpets. I would have thought if any cleaner would get an A rating it would be a Kirby
88 dB yes it's quite noisy but a C rating for performance on carpet? That is ridiculous! The Kirby has fantastic airflow and deep cleans carpets. I would have thought if any cleaner would get an A rating it would be a Kirby
turbo500
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Depends on the carpet. We've got the same carpet running throughout the house but the Kirby's don't like it. It's a tight woven, hard wearing pile and not much airflow can pass through it, so dirty fan vacs don't do too well in our house.
Another problem with the testing and ratings - it's impossible to rate for every house and every floortype.
Another problem with the testing and ratings - it's impossible to rate for every house and every floortype.
tseg
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Yikes. Glad I don't own a Kirby with those ratings. 
sptyks
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It is obvious that the EU testers do not know how to properly test a Kirby G series machine.
In the US Kirby earns a GOLD rating in every category from CRI (Carpet and Rug Institute). Carbon emissions from motor brushes are not included in the test as carbon is considered to be harmless in these minute amounts.
The Kirby Sentria II and Avalir have earned recognition world wide as being unbeatable in deep cleaning tests.
In the US Kirby earns a GOLD rating in every category from CRI (Carpet and Rug Institute). Carbon emissions from motor brushes are not included in the test as carbon is considered to be harmless in these minute amounts.
The Kirby Sentria II and Avalir have earned recognition world wide as being unbeatable in deep cleaning tests.
Carbon emissions are included in the test. How do you differentiate between household dust particles and carbon dust particles? The vacuum cleaner is placed in a sealed unit, any particles that are exhausted will be measured. That is why it gets an F rating. The Sebo X series which has a very good S Class pre motor filter also gets an F rating because of the carbon dust escaping from the motor.
The Kirby bags do filter well though especially the allergen plus bags.
I disagree with the C rating on carpet.
The Kirby bags do filter well though especially the allergen plus bags.
I disagree with the C rating on carpet.
