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LOL Sebo_fan I fuss over all my stuff just as much don't worry. It's not just the Kirby that I'd be devastated if it got damaged. I'm still gutted that I knocked my iPod off the docking station and put a tiny little dint in the side of it - and that happened MONTHS ago lol I'm one of these people who will worry over anything. I like to look after my stuff and I'm one of these people who goes through life with the opinion if you want it doing properly then do it yourself. I hated it when my Mini had to go back to the dealer for a minor warranty repair (bluetooth fault) and I spent ages going over the car afterwards making sure everything was perfect. Guess I just appreciate stuff a bit more than 'normal' folk. I know what you mean about Kirbys and Volvo's being able to take a bashing though... My Volvo was built like a tank. No doubt I could bash the Kirby about with no ill effects, but its just not in my nature. Not only do you risk spoiling the machine, more importantly you risk spoiling furniture and decor.
 
LOL I look out for my stuff like I get paid to, especially new stuff, like my Heritage II, or things like my 8-Track player and my vacuums! 
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I still genuinely think it is incredible for people to assume the dc41 mk2 will be not as good as a Kirby when they have not used one at all. I "assume" Kirbys are good vacuums but will not say they are better or worse for sure than my dyson or sebo because I haven't used one.

Everyone who has used the dc41 mk2 has said nothing but praise for the cleaner, especially its performance. I have posted video demonstrating as best I can its agitation and suction at the head. It bouncing around rice so much that it lands on top of the head, and sucking to the carpet so much it is lifting up heavy 1 inch piled wall to wall carpets a good couple of inches form the ground.

It surprising how gullible some people are, especially when this is supposed to be a vacuum enthusiast forum.
 
I feel your pain Oli. It was like the time someone on here went on and on about SEBO uprights not agitating. Until videos were made to show it, people continued to rant on and on. Evidence has to be continually rammed home on here until people get the message, and even then some are still not convinced until they feel the darn machine in their hands and they can see the results themselves.

The Dyson may well be able to deliver on what you suggest, what you have shown and what others have since found with new purchases. Clearly people are going to learn, even when watching your videos.

As for Volvo, Matt - I'm a big fan of the Swedish brand.
 
Oli - Please don't think I'm intending to disrespect the Dyson machine because I am not, however I may of come across in my rantings posted above.

I do think that it is a simple fact a dirty air machine with no hoses or airways between the fan and the floor is going to generate more airflow. Be it a Kirby or a Hoover Junior.

I had purely chosen the DC41 to use as a comparison as it was the first AAAA rated machine that came to mind - I also tried to stress that I was not meaning to slander the DC41... just to use it as an example.

I really do hope that I haven't come across as being as narrow minded as some users on here :s
 
Oli, I for one cannot comment on the DC41's performance, but I can certainly comment on Kirby. I have yet to find a vacuum that the Kirby cannot out perform, even I am shocked when my Classic III pulls a giant and unexpected smutz pile from my seemingly clean carpets! should i come across a DC41 in my travels, i will give it a fair review against Kirby, or any brand for that matter, but I cannot see the value in giving in to that high price (Frankly I don't think it's worth it for what you get, these Dysons have to cost under $100 to build in Malaysia, just because everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon for modern doesn't mean i shall too. I still live in the era of Tail-Fins and 8-Tracks! 
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). Based off other's opinions, I can say that the DC65 and DC41 are the best in class for bagless, in my own opinion they are not worth the price. if you pick one up for cheap off the internet or the Sears catalog, that's a different story! trust me, if Dyson wasn't crazy on prices, I would've been jumping on the bandwagon long ago! 
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Same with Kirby

Im about to put scans on showing a very early British report from Which. It shows that the KIRBY excelled pick up tests. However, it also warns UK buyers that most testers found the model to be heavy, cumbersome and difficult to work with.

They also slate it for being quite expensive - more expensive infact than the "Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon," that was listed at £250.

Now of course, so many moons later even though the Dyson may be expensive in the UK, it isn't half as expensive as a brand new Kirby upright in the UK. I can only imagine what it is like in the U.S with Dyson unless I go and research prices. All things considered, even if the Dyson is expensive to buy, it isn't half as heavy as the Kirby = some things that I know, collectors and owners are happy to put up with, but some buyers aren't.
 
The Kirby may be heavy, but with "Tech Drive" Power Assist, you can move it back and forth with just your little pinky finger.Tech Drive removes 90% of the effort needed to push and pull the Kirby.


 


Most reviewers of the Kirby are quick to mention the Kirby's weight, but they fail to mention the advantages of the Tech Drive.


 
 
Weighty vacuums-don't forget the Royal Powercast,and the Hoover "Z"And of course a Rainbow with the machine assembled and the water bin full.You don't push the Rainbow of course-but like the Kirby or others you may have to pick it up while using it.The Powercast and Z don't have powered drive.So pushing them gives you a workout.One of the reasons why these FAILED in the marketplace.As far as the "heavies" go-the Kirby and Rainbow are still with us.
 
Does anybody have any update on this? I'm wondering how brands like Kirby and Vorwerk have managed to escape the EU ratings labels. Not that the labels are worth the paper they're printed on.
 
You kow what they say;

"Cleveland rocks!" That's where Kirby's are made, Vita-Mix, and where Healthmor is, the Filter Queen parent company. Also where the Rock and Roll hall of fame is.
No longer the mistake on the lake, it's remake on the lake or the north coast.
It is also where the TTI floor care distribution headquarters is, todays Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Oreck.
Has BBC or Granada, etc. TV ever aired the Drew Carey show?
"We're goin' bowling, moon over Parma tonight! He grew up there, and Patricia Heaton is from Brook Park, just east of Lakewood.
 
Could be why Alex!

The TTI products are all form China now.
Perhaps the motors used in Kirby's can be fitted with a simpler speed limiter because they are very durable and will not fail when their windings are running warmer when connected to a resistance rheostat. Slower speed, less current draw, while the large fan still makes plenty of power to clean.
Not sure on that, just an educated guess.
I've toyed with motors a bit. I replaced a 3 pole motor once with a 5 pole armature in one of my ho scale model locomotives, and it runs faster with less current draw. Same voltage, same amperage.
Once a motor is spinning, providing the bearings are vey free moving, the current cycling of AC current also has coasting properties. For each push of current pulse, there is also a coast between pulses.
Anyhow, back in Cleveland last night, the Chicago Cubs won their first baseball world series since 1908! The Cleveland Indians also have a strong team. The game went over the 8 innings when it was tied.
Amazing! Wrigley field in Chicago didn't even have lights for night games 30 years ago either.
 
certain cleaners are exempt from the regulations - multifunctional machines like George, carpet washers and commercial vacs are all not affected. Maybe Kirby found a loop hole in that?
 

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