I've gone and bought another one!

[vintagerepairer]

With respect of the H4 bags, the hole wasn't the wrong size as such, it was a case of it not having the soft flexible membrane of the H18 bag. Also the TP2/3/1000 did of course have a tab on the bottom of the cardboard to latch it into place, and a clip on the cleaner to hold the top. This is unlike the earlier TP ranges which used friction and a tight fit to secure the bag to the tube.

 

[jmurray01]

Yes, the hole was a perfect fit, but because the actual collar was slightly too small it didn't clip into place with the tightness required for a near 100% seal that the H18 bags gave.

Of course, if you only had a Turbopower 2/1000/3 as your Vacuum Cleaner and the only bag you had was a H4 one, you could use it and it would work, but I would not recommend it for regular use, just as a stop gap.

With the original Turbopower being dirty fan, the seal wasn't as important as on a clean fan.

 

[vintagerepairer]

It isn't just the seal though, with the H4 bag in a TP2/3/1000 the bag had nothing to grip onto, so as well as dirt escaping from the hole, the entire bag would often come away altogether, leaving the dirt to congregate in the bag unit.

 

[jmurray01]

That is what I meant, the collar (by collar I mean the whole cardboard fixture, not just the hole) doesn't clip in tight enough to hold in place.

Granted, when the bag is empty it will stay in place, but as it fills the combined weight and suction will pull it out of the housing.

I don't know why HOOVER didn't design the Turbopower 2/1000/3 to take the same bags though. They made the hole the same size, all they needed to do was make the housing slightly smaller and differently shaped so the collar of the H4 bags could clip in tightly.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well what you are saying is what I said earlier, that the two machines could have used the same bag. However, the fitting on the TP2/3/1000 is without doubt a good deal easier to get off and on the cleaner. I think the reason why it did not use the same fitting as the original Turbopower is because the hard bag unit is much, much deeper on the TP2/3/1000 and it would have been a struggle to get ones hands inside to pull out that tight fitting bag. This is in contrast to the original TP cleaner, where the front cover forms almost half of the hard bag unit, making it much easier to get to the bag.

 

[jmurray01]

Ah, I see! Hence the easy release push clip.

 

[alexhoovers94]

They could not use the same bags anyway the turbopower one bags are alot longer than the turbo 2 bags, unless you folded them up to the correct size and then attach the bag clip, but you don't want to mess about doing that, you just want to put the bag in then go vacuum.

qualtex do make some turbopower 2 bags that are the size of turbopower one bags, but have the turbopower 2 bag collar on, so you could fold them up for the turbopower 2 or just keep them as they are for the turbopower one which is a good idea really, hoover should of done that.