Is lower power ever an advantage?

[sebo_fan]

Thread 127271 doesn't even mention 30 years ago - this is where your original response about green rating with held info starts!

I feel you're missing the point entirely where green ratings are concerned - it doesn't matter where a product is from - would I consider mango fruits from India to be green damaging because they've taken 12 hours to get to the UK? Or however about coffee from Brazil which goes direct to the U.S, churned, refined and sent back to Europe? C'mon now, how far are you going to go to tar everything that comes from a far away country as being unfriendly green because of the amount of travel it takes to get to the U.S?? You are clearly twinning quality AND "energy consumptive shipping," together - not entirely fair based on well made products in the U.S that are shipped out to the U.K.

Could I then summize that the Kitchenaid mixers that we get in the UK shipped from the U.S are less energy efficient than our home grown Kenwood Chef models that have better energy efficiency? No - because the Kitchenaid U.S models have far lower motors, thus they are far less energy consuming.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Ok, I just lost the will to live.

 

[danemodsandy]

RS:

In the interest of getting back on topic, I'm bowing out of this discussion.

 

[sebo_fan]

It kind of makes me wonder - if a product like the Vax Mach Air is designed in the U.K and owned by TTI in China - then the production of it is shifted to China and then redesigned slightly to be sold in the U.S as the Hoover Windtunnel Air. Does the original design still remain British, I wonder?

Or those plastic Panasonic uprights that Miele in Germany had sold for years in the U.S before their own S7 was built. Does that make those Miele models far less energy efficient because they are Japanese built? Or perhaps they were assembled in the U.S but the base techware comes from Japan.

Clearly energy saving appliances do exist - but not in a literal sense. As VR pointed out (hope you're feeling better and stronger now) with the Philips kettle, there's a lot of marketing and a lot of hype. Just like reusable paper dust bags in vacuum cleaners where only, effectively one more use can be probably used before all the paper has clogged up to the point that it can't be reused over and over.

 

[vintagerepairer]

"Better and Stronger"?

Well now it's calmed down, yes thank you. Gosh, you can be very powerful when you get going, Mr Sebo-fan.

 

[sebo_fan]

As you can be, Super T!

 

[vintagerepairer]

True