I tried a Miele today

[sebo_fan]

Grey tubes? I've never seen those - the demo machines in the UK at Comet, John Lewis etc all come with the default stainless steel tubes - and yes, I agree, they are pretty heavy. Even Sebo's D series all s/s similar tubes are slightly lighter and not much of a struggle. 


 


I have used lighter aluminium Bosch tubes before with my Miele S6 in order to make performance lighter but it soon becomes clear why a locking tube is so much more important - friction fit tubes are what Bosch always fit and are the same size as Miele, often allowing you to use the better well thought smaller cleaning tools- but when it comes to the floor heads they have a tendency to slide off or become loose as there is corresponding lock catch.

 

[williamr1248]

I tried a Miele today

Update:
I made some changes in my Miele. I purchased the "real horse hair " dusting brush and also added the Miele straight suction rug/floor tool.
The BIG improvement was to exchange the horrible stainless steel wands for the classic gray lighter weight Miele wands.
It made a difference in how the power nozzle performed on my cut pile carpeting. The heavy stainless wands were causing the 217 to bog down in my carpets and made very difficult to push.
Hats off to the Miele dealer for the exchange. It is my understanding that the gray finished lighter weight wands will not be available except on one machine called the "HOME CARE SYSTEM".
The dealer was very helpful with the sale and after the sale when I was not too happy with my machine.
My machine now performs like a different vacuum.

 

[sebo_fan]

Handy! What's the product code for those dark grey tubes?

 

[trav-styles]

I have one too!

Congrats on our purchase, I bought the same model with the 217, the Delphi. I got mine from a local Miele dealer in Chandler, AZ. I paid $499 plus tax, but they did throw in a free box of the Hyclean bags that sell for around $20-I thought that was a nice touch.

The dealer said it was a way to say "thank you" for purchasing locally--which is ironic, because up until the morning of I was convinced that I was going to buy it on Amazon-would have saved quite a bit on sales tax, but I wanted to support a local business and I also didn't want to wait for it to come I also bought the genuine horsehair duster, for around $20. It has a painted silver ring on the outside. I have yet to purchase a bare floor tool, the SEB 217 works really well on bare floors.

Hope you enjoy yours!

PS-I noticed that the S2 range got a slight cosmetic update-I got mine 2 years ago or so, the new ones say "Miele" on the sides of the Canister. They also added the "Made in Germany" mark under the "Miele" name on the top lid, they moved the power and cord-rewind emblems to the pedals, and the icons for different power levels are a little different.

My telescoping wand stopped conducting electricity, the dealer replaced it without question, even though this was just a few months ago--almost 2 years after I bought the machine, and way out of warranty. That part retails for $120 or so--so I guess in the end, purchasing from a local "Miele Diamond" dealer ended up saving me a lot of money and frustration.

Here's a little review I did a while ago-if you watch you'll notice the cosmetic differences.

 

[trav-styles]

Wands

William--I've heard from several sources that the new wand-SET 220 (the heavier, stainless one) has an increased internal diameter as well as a smoother, more contoured internal surface as compared the the SET 210, which was the gunmetal grey wand.

Here's a link explaining the difference, it's in the last paragraph of the product description. Whether or not the airflow is increased or not, I can't say-this is my first Miele with a power nozzle. (I have the S4 Sirius, bare-floor only). The SET 220 that comes with the Delphi is heavy, but I personally don't mind. Everything about it seems to be very well made. I don't think Miele would just arbitrarily change if there was no need.

http://www.ristenbatt.com/order.mv?Product=SET 220

 

[sebo_fan]

Ty for that info, but aren't both these tubes electric?

 

[williamr1248]

I tried a Miele

Travis
Thanks for the information about the wands. If I had to keep the stainless wands-the machine was going back. Mine were so heavy and clunky that the 217 bogged down in the cut pile carpet. After the dealer was good enough to trade them for the
one new set he had on a "Home Care" model. Now the 217 and the floor tool work perfectly on my carpets and are easy to push.
It is somewhat strange that the Miele has such strong suction but the air flow does not seem to be as good as my Rainbow. Of course the Miele still has a new,empty bag.
The selling feature of the Miele was that is was light weight and easy to handle. In the store they were using the gray wands so I had no idea the difference until I got home. With the Miele's already short hose you are forced to use a wand section to dust or clean blinds and I just did not like the look or feel of the huge wands. Now it is a very different performing machine.
I bought from a local dealer for the same reason. I have heard it is not always quick to get replacement parts so thought the local dealer has a vested interest in local customers. The dealer was very nice and thanked me for buying local too.
If I had bought on the internet I would not have been able to make the correction so quick and easy.
My machine seems to be very well made compared to most new machines and it darn well should be quality at the price.
I ended up at over $600.00 by the time I got the dusting brush,floor tool and bags.
The only thing I don't like so far is saving and storing the dirt and filth in the closet and the house just does not smell as clean as when I use my Rainbow. I have asthma so if it starts smelling-it goes to the basement.
Thanks again for your information about the wands.

 

[williamr1248]

I tried a Miele today

Travis,
When I went to look at the Miele,they were very proud of the fact and made a point to tell me it is made in Germany and has the famous Vortex motor. They showed me several machines (S4,S5) and one designed to be quieter but the differece was so slight I could not see the differnce in price. How could you want more suction as I cannot use mine past the 4th setting.
I too like the looks of this machine for some reason. I liked that it says "made in Germany" on the machine and the tools say Miele on each.
What a difference in the performance and ease of use of the 217 on my particular cut pile carpets with the lighter design Miele gray wands.

 

[joshdonnell]

Well..

With my Miele Vacuum, when i turn it on i smell dust, and i haven't Drop dead from the smell Yet. So you'll be ok.

 

[williamr1248]

I tried a Miele today

Josh,
I have asthma, so I hope what you say is NOT true after spending a lot of money for a vacuuum that totes IT FILTERS the dust and they charge you a premium price for bags and filters to perform just that function.
Why would anyone buy an expensive product and not expect it to do what they claim it was designed to do? If yours smells too, I may not be at all happy with mine. If I wanted to smell leaking dust and filth I could have bought a cheap Walmart vacuum.
Are you sure you don't have clogged filters?

 

[joshdonnell]

My

Filters are clean i barly use it. I use my shark navigtor and no dusty smells

 

[joshdonnell]

If

You have pets , you will smell an oder. Sorry i meant to say a pet oder. And when i was using my miele. There was no dust on my stuff. But now i like my Shark. So my miele hasnt been used in months. And for my Rainbow i need to get it fixed or given away. No dusty smell

 

[joshdonnell]

If

I were you i would have waited till the S8 .

 

[sebo_fan]

Well Josh, if you have a dusty smelling Miele and it's not the filter or the bag, then it's definitely the tubes, suction pipe and floor head or just your imagination. 

 

[williamr1248]

I tried a Miele today

I have had the Miele for a week and I wanted to give a new update.
First,thanks to all the posters for the advise and comments. It really helped.
Here are some thoughts after using the new machine:

(1) the new gray wands really made a HUGE difference in the ease of use and the performance of the 217 on my cut pile rugs. The heavy stainless wands completely ruined the ease of use of the machine as they were too heavy and bulky.
(2) Love the Vortex motor with the strong suction
(3) QUIET,QUIET motor. Almost pleasing to hear it rev up and shut off.
(4) I liked the tool caddy. Very easy to change tools and no plastic door to fool with every time. The tools did not fall off one time.
BUT:
(1) still hate the short power cord
(2) short electric hose forces you to use a wand when doing anything above the floor like dusting blinds (hense the ligher weight wands work better)
(3) there is a difference in the dust level in the house. I have dust on the glass table tops,mahogany furniture and the house just does not smell as good as when I
use the Rainbow.
(4) almost too much suction. My Rainbow has less suction but better airflow with the floor brush
Overall:
I think it is a vey good vacuum and a good value for the money. Because it is so light,it would be great for older people and users who have a smaller home.
The build quality seems to be very good. It has a high quality look and feel and I like the sleek simplicity of the machine and power nozzle.

 

[joshdonnell]

So

About the dust level its not the same as with rainbow ?. Well i felt my house was a little bit cleaner with My Miele, then with my kirby. But i found the Miele more easy to use. Living in a Apartment the Rainbow was too much. It was like pulling a rock to me. It didnt follow around with me well. So i got tired of to the point i didnt care. And stop washing the bin out , and cleaning the sepator . Or even buying a new Hepa filter. Now i feel bad that i didnt baby it or take care of it well. i do have Allergies. But once i vacuum with the Miele and then dust, i am fine. And the house stays cleaner. With Using the Rainbow i could still walk across the carpet with the blind open and then walk and see dust in the air.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Rob I have the

Miele Capricorn and I feel the same way about the machine .

When and only when I use my Rainbow or any other water vacuum is the dust problem under control to barely zero dust .

Most bagged machines smell as well as bagless . Nothing like a fresh water bath clean air dust free home .

I also have the Miele S7 Upright Salsa its a great upright but it really smells and I use the charcoal hepa filter and I have no idea why it smells so much .

My Kirby Sentria has only a very slight odor that you can barely smell so I have
no idea what is up with Miele .

My Tri Star , Filter Queen , Aerus , Vortech force , and Orecks also smell very little or not at all .

 

[joshdonnell]

Well

With anyvacuum when you move it over the carpet you would kicking up dust. So it doesnt matter if you have a Rainbow , or Miele

 

[williamr1248]

II tried a Miele today

Dan,
I have had about the same experience as you. I really have had better luck wth my Oreck Platinum upright,Filter Queen with less smells. I have never used my TriStar enough because it is almost like having a bagless with the open paper bag.
The Miele seems like it has a more quailty look even in the plastics.

Josh,
I can see why you would not like to use a Rainbow in an apartment. If you have the older style you would be forced to mess with the 2 sets of wands and hoses and the older style dolly. For sure you will need to replace the hepa filter IF you did not change the water and clean the separator.
Like any appliance cheap or expensive if you don't take care of it, performance will suffer.
Still, I am not understanding why you say your Miele smells every time you turn it on? I did notice all 3 times I visited a Miele dealer the demonstation machines DID smell bad. I thought it was because they had not had their filters changed but now Dan has just told us he has one of the Miele uprights and it smells too.
I have never had any odor from either my old Rainbow SE after 18 years or my new Rainbow BUT I DO change the water about every 30 minutes and dump and rinse the basin after use. For me that is a very small task and well worth my effort to help with the allergies and odors.
It always makes sense to me-you use water to wash your dishes,clothes and bath yourself so why try and handle dust in a dry state.
You might want to try this new light Miele. It would be easy to use in an apartment.

 

[joshdonnell]

Think

I might like a hyla the only thing is no dealers. And dont wanna pay that much for one