I think I’m sticking to bagged

[rivstg1]

Ugh, visited my dad....learned that he has a Hoover Rewind bagless(12amp). I studied it...found it to be stinky and this decided to tear it apart to clean for him. What a hassle these are!! Couldn’t get to clean all the tubing b/c I couldn’t reach it with a toothbrush ....uh, I think I’ll stick with quality bagged vacuums .[this post was last edited: 8/27/2018-23:36]

 

[human]

My sentiments exactly...

It seriously boggles my mind that the industry has managed to convince the buying public that these bagless pieces of plasticrap are in any way superior to a good, solid bagged machine.

 

[rivstg1]

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[huskyvacs]

Just have to remember to empty after each use and not let it build up (that would explain the smelly odor). If the dirt builds up it will start getting into every crack and crevice it can find (especially with Dysons). At this stage you'd have to take your vacuum apart more and wash all the plastic bits or get one of those dryer lint trap brushes and run it through there to dislodge the debris.

I have an Eureka Brushroll Clean With SuctionSeal AS3401A and I love it. 3 months use and not had a problem with it (and trust me it's seen tons and tons of dog hair)!



I think what happened in this era is that with the switch from bagged to binned, people don't realize they have to empty it every use (sometimes 3-4 times per use) rather than a bagged vacuum where you could run a bag maybe a month or more without having to change it.

 

[mike811]

What I hate about the bagless vacuums is the dust cloud when emptying. I mean it sticks to everything.
Outside of the bin gets dusty and so does the vacuum.
After just one emptying vacuum looks dirty so being a vacuum cleaner collector this seriously bothers me.
Yes the bin in most cases is easy to wash, but you have to wait two days it to dry.
Then there's the filters. I have several Sharks so the filter maintenance is needed quite often.
With the Dyson (DC40) filters stay much longer clean, but washing the cyclone pack takes forever to dry.

 

[henrydreyfuss]

If the inside of the hose is caking up with nasty dirt like that, the user is likely vacuuming up moisture of some kind. Always make sure the carpet/floor is dry before running the vac over it, otherwise sludge can build up.

 

[captainslow]

@mike/dust sticking

That's one thing I noticed with my Dyson (before I sold it off). The exterior of the bin generates so much electrostatic, that the flying fine dust will just settle itself on external of the machine.

With a quality bagged machine, there's surface dust on the outside, clean insides, and inaccessible contained dirt.
With a quality bagless machine, there's surface dust on the outside, dirty insides, and frequent contact with inevitable liberal dirt.

 

[huskyvacs]

@captainslow

Is that true that it is the bin that is causing the static? I always thought it was just the base of the machine that was charging up the plastic because I didn't seem to notice it as bad on machines with metal skidplates.

 

[texaskirbyguy]

In a world where this 'simplicity' fad is in full swing, this type of maintenance is ridiculous. Too many parts to clean way too often. And with the technical abilities of the average user, this cleaning is not going to be done and the unit will be in the trash in no time.
Heck, even if a mechanical whiz services it after every use, the plastic clip that holds the whole thing together will break or the critical seal will get cut and it will be in the trash in no time since those parts will not be available.
Built-in obsolescence at its finest...

Makes me love my old Kirbys. I can neglect them for 25 years and they never fail me. One bag a year and a belt every 2 or 3 years. Almost every part is available if needed, despite there being no easy-to-break parts on most models. Very low maintenance machines.

 

[fan-of-fans]

Bagged vacuums are just easier to maintain. Someone once asked me why I'd like a bagged vacuum and I told them about all the filters to clean in a bagless and that I'd rather just throw out the bag and be done. The idea seemed to catch on.

Plus if you want your bagless bin to stay shiny clean, it seems the spinning dust makes them lose their shine. They won't stay looking brand new unless you're always polishing the bin.

 

[captainslow]

@huskyvacs

I never examined it in particular, but it was apparent that the bin plastics had the most static. When I ran my forearm near the vacuum, hairs stood up when running along the clear bin. Also, if I ran my finger across the bin, then sensation is that of running your finger across a CRT TV screen. You could feel the static and accumulating settled dust that is "marginally floating" atop the surface.

 

[madman]

Looks like somebody vacuumed up vomit.

Also, clear plastic always has a tendency to store static electricity. Probably doesn't help that dust particles get rubbed across the inside of it, kind of like rubbing a balloon on your head.

 

[josh1998]

What do you guys think about the bagless kirbys?

I've seen the bagless conversion kits for Kirby vacuums. I think those things are awful. For one thing a Kirby looks totally stupid with that bagless thing on it. When I got my Kirby, the fact it uses bags was a big plus to me. I got so sick of having to pick wads of dirt out of my shark with my hand. I emptied it every time I finished using it but dirt would still always get stuck on the sides and top of the dirt canister. I will take bags any day over bagless.

 

[kirbysthebest]

Bagless Kirby

Kirby were traditionally "bagless" or actually a shake out bag for many years.

If you are referring to the bagless conversion, I beg you with all that is holy, please do not resurrect the Keeler thread.

 

[mikanic]

Good idea.

I like bagged vacuum cleaners too. I don't want to have to keep up with too much maintenance all the time, it just gets out of hand. And we all know who to blame for bagless vacuum cleaners, don't we?

Before I can get anymore obsessed with dodgy inventions, all I'll say is that was a good idea of yours to say 'Hello' to the bag

 

[sptyks]

I say DO NOT put a Kirby Bagless conversion kit on your Kirby!


You will be sorry! That bagless kit is horrible. It needs to be emptied and the filter cleaned after every 10 minutes of use or the machine loses suction. It is a waste of money.


 


 


 


 

 

[josh1998]

I would never put a bagless changer kit thing on my Kirby. I totally hate bagless vacuums! Well I wouldn't mind a cloth shake bag but I hate vacuums with a plastic dirt container. And no offense to the rainbow people here but emptying a plastic dirt canister full of both dirt and water is pretty nasty to me. Especially if you have pets. Dirty wet dog hair. Just, Ewww!

 

[rivstg1]

watched a tear down of a Dyson 07

yesterday.....ugh...NO WAY oweners go into it like they NEED TO be gone through to clean....dang...lots of work and filthy!!!!!!!!!!!! inside it. yuck

 

[ultralux88]

Unless there's water involved, a bagged machine will always be a better choice. Even the bagless machines that performed well, and maintained power, lose me when it comes time to empty. The good machines I can ge through the whole house before dumping, but if I have to go through the ordeal of dumping the thing out several times during use, FORGET IT! I only occasionally use the bagless machines specifically to avoid the mess and hassle on a regular basis.