I Hate These "No Loss of Suction" Claims

[n0oxy]

water filtration

I have never used a rainbow or other water based filtration vacuum, but I would think, it would still have one issue that bagless vacuums have. When you dump out the water, you still need to clean the bin out, because chances are dumping the water will not remove all the hair and other dirt from the bottom. With a bagged vacuum, you don't have to deal with that.

 

[dysonman1]

You don't have to 'wash' out the Rainbow basin, just rinse it like a cereal bowl. You don't even have to dry it, just don't put the motor unit back on top. I've always emptied the Rainbow in the commode. So the tub is right there to fill the basin with rinse water, and empty it into the commode too. All the dirt is out of the house and the Rainbow doesn't have to be stored with dirt in it or on it.

 

[dys0nb0y]

I think bagged and bagless both got there disadvantages but it come down to personal preference. And I do quite like shark but I've never liked the way they said never loses suction cuz that's not true it might not lose suction for a few months But not never.[this post was last edited: 7/30/2015-13:09]

 

[sebo_fan]

There are outlandish claims by many brands who both produce bagless and bagged vacs.

The major difference here is that with a bagless vac, consumers have been brainwashed and swayed away from the carpet cleaning performance to worrying about how dust is captured, how it is contained and filter maintenance.

 

[turbo500]

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<a name="start_29624.330551"></a>it might not lose suction for a few weeks until the filter gets dirty but it definitely won't 'never lose suction'


 


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So, the same as every Dyson ever made other than the cinnetic then?

 

[dys0nb0y]

I am talking about shark vacuums not dyson.

 

[turbo500]

I am talking about shark vacuums not dyson

yes, but what you're saying applies to all bagless cyclonic vacuums.

 

[dys0nb0y]

The Majority of but Not all bagless.

 

[parwaz786]

So, the same as every Dyson ever made other than the cinneti

What kind of Dyson would loose suction after a few weeks?

 

[sptyks]

Even Dyson loses suction over time. It takes longer on a Dyson because the cyclones work better than Shark cyclone. There are videos that show even the Cinetic cyclones Clog at some point.

 

[madaboutsebo]

That's one of the issues the general public think in most cases bagless means no bags, no maintanance as such. They forget about filter changes or filter washes every so often. Then wonder why they clog or performance drops. Then throw them out and buy a new one in some cases. If they maintained them as instructed they would probably last longer and performance better. I've known friends and family with bagless vacuums didn't realise they had filters let alone needed washing or replacing periodic!

Suppose years ago the bag got full (probably bursted due to over filling) they eventually changed it and the vacuum was good to go and probably lasted longer.

With hectic life's the general public tend to lead!! I feel have got lazy and want appliances that are quick and easy to use.

I've gone back to bags having used bagless for 11 years. Been using bags for 8 years now and much better personally especially having a pet. More convenient for me too. I don't miss the emptying the bin or washing filters waiting for them to dry but that's me. I've used bagless vacuums of owners who have pets and they can smell but thats due to internals parts that get lined from the pet hair (which can be greasy/oily) that you can not get to clean out.

Everyone's different and bagless suits some and bagged vacuums suit others for many reasons!

 

[n0oxy]

shark and dyson

I actually saw an infomercial for the shark a few weeks ago, and they were talking about how powerful it was. I was thinking to myself, right, but just wait until they've had it for a few months, they'll learn the hard way. As for Dyson, unless I'm mistaken, the canister vacuums don't even have motorized powernozzles, just air turbine ones which will never clean as well as a motorized power nozzle. One reason among many why dyson's are overpriced.

 

[parwaz786]

100% agreed Stan!

 

[suckolux]

they have powered heads

 

[tolivac]

NEVER dump the Rainbow bin into the commode UNLESS you pick out all of the larger debris like hair and lint or other large items.I knew of someone that did the commode dump and faced an EXPENSIVE Roto Rooter job.The debris hardened into a concrete like substance and wore out TWO Roto Rooter toothed pipe cleaner blades.I simply empty my rainbow bin outside in the plant bed.And since my place is on a septic tank--don't want to fill it with debris picked up by a vacuum.

 

[panasonicvac]

I just forgot...

I saw a dyson DC17 animal at my thrift store last month I think. As far as I can remember here, It was used heavily so it wore down the brushroll and it was very dirty. The main problem with it was the cyclones were clogged as I took a sneak peak in the canister and I think I saw that the pre filter was washed. So my guess was that the vacuum got clogged and the previous owners must have thought it was the filter that needed to be cleaned out, and maybe found out it didn't made much of a difference at all so they must have decided to get rid of it. Next day I went back over there, it was gone but a couple of vacs that were there way before the dyson arrived at the thrift store were still there and they were in much better shape than that dyson.

 

[n0oxy]

dumping down the drain system

There are central vacuum systems that will automatically empty themselves in to the drain system, which is also what a toilet does. I'm not sure if those have issues with pipes getting clogged or not, or if anything is left at the bottom of the tank. I think if I had a water based filtration vacuum I would probably just dump it outside.