How much is my ...........worth?

[hoovercelebrity]

And the value drops.

Pretty machine... it does look to be in nice shape... but...

The hose isn't original.
No crevice tool.
No Rug Nozzle.
The Turbinette would have come with a much later model, not this particular one.

Not sure that the color is original, either. I'm not a Compact expert.. but it very well could have been repainted at some point in time. Dealers used to do that quite frequently.

~F

 

[rocketwarrior]

Sandbaggin'

Pete, Jeff - you are still sandbagging. The question on the floor is, based on your experience, what is your educated guess as to the value of the machine? The question was not what you would offer for it. Obviously, if you don't like Compacts, or if you have a policy of not paying over $20 for a machine, then your personal transactions are hardly helpful in answering the question. Yet, at the same time, you have knowledge that your $10 bid would come up short - so you know that is not the value. That is what I mean about the avoidance issue.
I would never in a million years have paid $230,000 for the bakery building across the street, but I sure as heck am going to take that transaction into consideration if I ever sell my building, or if someone asks me what these buildings are worth. How could I not?
But, let's say we finally have a couple of numbers. Jeff says the value is some less than $10. While I don't believe for a minute that is his opinion of the value, that is as close as he would come to telling us what he thought was the value.
Pete tries harder to answer the question and says $30, tops. In fairness, that was before the picture.
Kyle, do you think they are still sandbagging? While you think I am just hassling you, I actually think you have a ligitimate credential, with your machines, your experience, your talking to people, to render an opinion. Not only that, I suspect that you would give an honest answer even though you want to sell it. But, because you do want to sell it, I won't bug you for your opinion of the value.
Okay, experienced club members, does anyone else have an opinion of the value of Kyle's Compact?

Maybe this "form" will make it easier.

"I ________________ think the fair market value of Kyle's Compact, based on his description and the pic, is worth between __________ and _____________. Disclaimer: This "educated guess" is based on my limited experience with a very small and specialized market and should be used for discussion purposes only. You are cautioned that prices may vary incredibly."

P.S. Kyle, you taught me an important lesson today that I assure you I won't forget. That lesson is never trust that people you don't know well will be discreet about off thread communications.

 

[rocketwarrior]

Another dodger fan.

~F, you didn't give us your number.

 

[myvacsrock]

i have the original hose
i have the crevice tool
i hvae the rug nozzle!

they are all in the toy box thing. I just don't hvae the time tonight to take a pic of that because my dad went to get a massage....so just know i do have them!!!!

So in that case: Value back up!

 

[swingette]

Mark, i think the vacuum pros here have a point. i suspect the folks here are NOT gonna jump at the chance to volunteer an estimated price for someone that cant even get their pictures right!

Kyle, i know you mean well, but asking for estimates (like an adult, making a mature transaction) requires some effort on your part. im sure if your approach was a little more thought out, many people would love to discuss your new Compact and ,perhaps, its market value.

 

[rocketwarrior]

Kyle's okay

Hey, Kyle may be young, but he has a lot of experience in this specialty. My "form"/format contains the hedge "based on his description". Kyle's doin' okay with what he is working with. What's your number Brett?

 

[rocketwarrior]

Massage

My dad went to get a massage. I like that. I might use that. Oops, too late. Anyway, "Value Back Up" is a litte premature. A lot of the guys are from Missouri (remember all that stink awhile back)and need to see it.
But, because of the handy-dandy hedge in my disclaimer language there is absolutely nothing preventing the experienced members from tossing a couple of numbers -- but, all is quiet. Hmmmmmmmmm. You don't think there is a conspiracy out there? An oath signed during a late night secret meeting? Why or why can't we get a simple "educated guess." Almost comical. Next thing the thread will be boycotted.
(These guys are going to kill me in September. I better come up with a disguise - or schedule a vacation and have my secretary serve the finger food.)

 

[ian88]

Aw dizamn, Mark even has a secretary I want an office..a secretary..a business talk about the friggin Ian Mooreian dream =p

(this threads clearly gone off the rails so I may as well help it along..)

 

[rocketwarrior]

dizamn

Hey, Clockwork Orange is back! Ian, what's your number?

Use the form:

"I Ian the Brit think the fair market value of Kyle's Compact, based on his description and the pic, is worth between __________ and _____________. Disclaimer: This "educated guess" is based on my limited experience with a very small and specialized market and should be used for discussion purposes only. You are cautioned that prices may vary incredibly."

 

[petek]

Well Mark I don't know what you want someone to say, that it's worth $150 , $100, $80 which it probably isn't. Even Freds as pristine and pampered as it is would be a hard sell in the local newspaper more than likely if a reader say it listed for those figures, they'll go to Walmart. You might see Freds in a Vac shop for $150 or even $200 but when people are buying privately they aren't going to pay that kind of money for a second hand vac. The thrift stores and such have them a dime a dozen all the time if anyones looking for a decent 2nd vacuum.Tat's where I get all mine mostly and probably most of the collectors. That's why the value to me is like I said probably around $30 tops. Ebay just skews things because that's not the real world imho.

 

[ian88]

"I Ian the Brit think the fair market value of Kyle's Compact, based on his description and the pic, is worth between whatever kyle thinks and whatever the bidder is willing to pay. Disclaimer: This "educated guess" is based on my limited experience with a very small and specialized market and should be used for discussion purposes only. You are cautioned that prices may vary incredibly."

A diplomatic compromise =p

 

[rocketwarrior]

No, no, no, no.

Now you see why my people crossed the pond, my man, you are just like the old farts. Hedging and obfuscation. Geez, Ian, you are too young to give up your spirit, your independence, your verve (can we say verve on this site?). Ian, you can show them the way. You know, Pete Townshend's Tommy.

 

[ian88]

Fine then..i'll value it based on a good old fashioned guess..

uhh.. $60?

 

[swingette]

Mark, after the disparity between Kyles description and the photo he provided...Charles Lesters "Aunt Tillie" is just right...

 

[rocketwarrior]

Pete, you still don't get it.

Your presumptive comment: "what you want someone to say, that it's worth $150 , $100, $80 which it probably isn't." I don't want people to say what it isn't - duh - I want them to say what it is. But, love ya, man, let's work with this (I feel like a dentist).
If one reads that sentence carefully, one can conclude that you "doubt" (inferred from the word probably) that Kyle's vac is worth as much as $80. Fair enough. We have your high number. I like that. So, the only question is the depth of that doubt. Let's give it 25%
Are you saying this:
"I Pete think the fair market value of Kyle's Compact, based on his description and the pic, is worth between $60 and $80. Disclaimer: This "educated guess" is based on my limited experience with a very small and specialized market and should be used for discussion purposes only. You are cautioned that prices may vary incredibly."

 

[petek]

Change that to between $30-$50 and you gotta deal.

 

[petek]

Now everyone go to the contemprorary forum and fawn, gush and oooh and ahhh over my Panasonic Commercial vac, then tell me what it's worth.. I paid $10 for it.

 

[myvacsrock]

heck i'll take $70to$80 to get it out of here lol!

 

[rocketwarrior]

Yes, yes, yes.

Pete, you and I are the only guys on this site with balls. You did it. You set an example. And you know what. Your value, stated as you have, is the "definitive last word" on the value of that unit unless there might be someone else out there with gumption.

Ian, you quittin'?

 

[petek]

And I want heartfelt gushing and fawning, nothing contrived or affected!!!!!

 

[myvacsrock]

is there any collectors on here who only collects compacts....i am just wondering

 

[rocketwarrior]

Kyle, we're not bidding.

Kyle, Pete isn't bidding on your pig, he is expressing a friendly opinion of its value. He thinks its worth $30 to $50. He isn't offering to buy the thing.

 

[ian88]

Well I am being easy on Kyle because for all intents and purposes he is still just a kid this ain't one of me business rivals ;p

 

[rocketwarrior]

This is not about Kyle

Ian, this is not about Kyle. Kyle's pig is being used as an example. I don't care about the club's off thread emails and phones calls and all that other crap that goes on behind the scenes. Just take the thread at face value and pretend Kyle is John Doe. Okay? John Doe (or Jon Doe - I really don't give a rip).

Let me (geez, you guys) ask it this way. So, like, Ian my man, what's your friendly, informal, no strings attached best guess of the value of John Doe's Compact?

Or, are you in on that 'behind the scenes' emailing about this?

 

[myvacsrock]

ok i don't know what to say.....i am ut of stuff to write!lol

 

[rocketwarrior]

Heartfelt

Pete, my praise for your willingness to break from these obfuscators is, in deed, heartfelt*, and sincere. Really. I know a fraction of what these guys know and I am willing to guess at a value, or a range, and I might be wrong. So what. I respect you.

*Disclaimer only about the heartelt part. Please understand that I have two medicated stents in my left anterior descending coronary artery (those cardiologist cut ups call it "the widow maker" - those guys are a laugh a minute). I really don't think it limits my praise but I felt you were entitled to consider it.

 

[rocketwarrior]

LOL

No sweat, Kyle, we were talking about John Doe and his C-4.

 

[ian88]

You can tell Mark's in the legal profession can't ya ;p

friggin shark =p

 

[myvacsrock]

yes people John Doe will consider the $50 so if interested please let him know so....i know it is only worth it if you will pay it. I will say i have learned ALOT about stuff on this thread so...please not to start anything again but John Doe will take $50 for his Compact C-4

 

[rocketwarrior]

John Doe

Hey, Kyle, no, no, no. You can't co-opt John Doe. Make up your own name. Messeur Doe is not selling his vac. He was just interested in what the guys thought it was worth before he throws away the attachments and cuts it into an open wheel racer. This isn't some crass auction site.