How does one retrofit disposable bags into pre-Tradition Kirbys?

[amtraksebo1997]

I can't stand dump-out bags. I think they're a relic of the past that should stay in the past (are you listening, Sanitare/Bissell?). That said, I like certain dump-out bagged Kirbys, mainly the Sanitronics and Classics. However, Because they utilize dump-out bags, that means that I wouldn't want to use them period. You could of course stick a Traditon, Heritage 1,Heritage ii, or Legend ii outer bag with a fill tube on it to solve that problem, but they simply wouldn't match the machine, and that would bug me. So, I'm wondering/hoping there's a way to retrofit a fill-tube (preferably one for an F/Twist bag), and maybe sew a zipper onto the outer bag. Has this ever been successfully done by anybody here?

 

[lesinutah]

If

You use a heritage emtor with fill tube this is one way.
You'd have to have a 516-heritage model with 3 ring adaptor for emtor.
You would then buy the new adapter for the heritage as it would take kirby type 2 bags. Then any bag would like have a heritage full length bag with it.

 

[kirbyman65]

i don't think

I've never seen or done that. I've heard people lining the bag in HEPA material. Here's the thread about that.

https://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?37494

 

[tolivac]

In defense of the dump bags-they are favored for commercial use.The amount of dirt a commercial vacuum picks up in even one shift would fill a large pack of disposable bags.This would get VERY expensive!You can get aftermarket bags that use disposable bags if you should want to use the vacuum at home.

 

[thatwasherguy]

I totally agree about not liking the shake out bags…

That’s one of the main reasons why I hate bagless vacuums; they are a gross mess to empty. I ran into this issue on my Classic III. I wound up buying used on Ebay a “genuine aftermarket” bag made by the Scott Fetzer Co. that takes Eureka F&G bags, as a nest of mice had destroyed the bag and Emtor prior to me taking ownership of the machine. It does look a bit different from the original bag, however. I also recall seeing a youtube video where someone had 3D printed an adaptor from the Emtor of a Dual Sanitronic 80 to a Kirby fill hose. The guy said that he was planning on making more of them to sell, but I don’t think anything ever came of that. Your best bet for maintaining originality would probably be engineering an adaptor and sewing a zipper in an original bag.
Hope this helps,
Thatwasherguy.

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Lesinutah

Where could I find myself a "516-heritage model with 3 ring adaptor for emtor" that you speak of. I'm not as knowledgeable on pre-tech drive machines. That being said, what's stopping me from taking that Heritage 1 emptor and putting a Heritage ii or newer fill tube on it?

 

[amtraksebo1997]

KirbyMan65

I wouldn't want to do that. I'd want something that would properly seal the dirt away so that I wouldn't come in contact with it.

 

[amtraksebo1997]

tolivac

I don't want this to turn into a big war over if they're bad or not like my last thread on the subject, but I simply don't care how much dirt is picked up by a commercial vacuum in a day. I'd rather burn through bags then be content with a poorly filtering setup. I also don't believe that disposable bags fill up super quickly in commercial environments. They may fill up slightly faster than if they were used domestically, but not in a way that Dyson or some other company may lead you to believe. If that actually were the case, I'd just buy a bagless vacuum with sealed HEPA filtration, because at least those have decent filtration, unlike dump-out bagged machines.

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Thatwasherguy

I never knew Kirby made outer-bags that took a competitor's disposable bag. That goes without saying that's very strange.

Sewing a zipper on an outer bag doesn't sound that hard, though since I've never sewn anything before, I wouldn't know. Could anybody help explain how to do so?

 

[lesinutah]

Here

Is a link for one cheap. They go for up to $100.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/4056139370...iSVRhZiQfi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Lesinutah

The link doesn't work.

 

[lesinutah]

Here

Hi

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4056139370...iSVRhZiQfi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Lesinutah

It's still not working. It's just showing me a page with the text "1(1x1)". It also did that when I tried opening up another Ebay listing on the top picks thing earlier.

 

[lesinutah]

Pic

Here's a pic of the listing.

 

[lesinutah]

2

Pic

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Lesinutah

That's just a Heritage ii outer bag. Are you saying that I should take the bag ring from that an stick it on the machine I want to convert?

 

[lesinutah]

Its

A emtor with heritage bag.
U can see in first pic.
It's emtor bag and fill tube.

 

[amtraksebo1997]

Lesinutah

Okay?... And?

 

[lesinutah]

U

Get that and put a disposable bag and you have a great setup.