Hoover Model 417

[hooverbaby]

I recently aquired this Hoover Model 417 Cylinder cleaner from the 1950s in what appears to be pretty decent original finish and condition. I haven't yet photographed the hose or accessories. The hose is not original, pretty certain of that, since it's the white double-stretched variety. I seem to remember that the original on these was a kind of red woven cloth. The cable seems to be the original one.

Stephen

 

[hooverbaby]

opposite side

side opposite the badge..

 

[hooverbaby]

Rear end

showing the blowing end..

 

[hooverbaby]

front end..

for sucking, of course!

 

[akabent]

Very nice find!!

What a great find, Stephen! Looks to be in really excellent condition. Interesting that from a color standpoint, it looks to be a hybrid between our 41 and 42 cylinders or tanks; the bonze-y tan color being like the body of our 42, and that wonderful maroon/burgundy being like the ends and cord or our earlier 41. Is it 110/115 V. or 220? Congrats on a wondeful find!
RB

 

[hooverbaby]

underbelly

It's tickle tum tums time!

 

[vac-o-matic]

What a beautiful Hoover!

 

[hooverbaby]

and now..

for a closer view of that name-plate..

 

[hooverbaby]

Rick.B & Rick.A

Glad you both like the machine; it's a 225-250 volt model, according to the nameplate, so can be used straight onto our U.K supplies..oh and it does run well too!

Stephen

 

[akabent]

It's tickle tum tums time!

Huh?
Can you say that in public?
Tanslation, please!
Rick

 

[pinkge]

Whata Find

Yes,I'm jealous! That is so beautiful! The colors are so neat.What do the attachments look like and color? MT

 

[portable]

Wow, gorgeous, Stephen! It looks like it was barely used. Looking forward to seeing the attachments.

 

[twocvbloke]

I think my grandma used to have one of those years ago, possibly with blue trim...

 

[hooverbaby]

well, since you asked..

John & MT, here are the attachments. As I said, the hose is not original, though it is a genuine Hoover replacement and has the correct 417 machine end. It's not that far out, since it's the common white double-stretch variety that was common back to the 1960s. The tools are grey/silver in colour, apart from an additional second dusting brush thrown in; they look little used, are the original style and probably original to this machine. There are three extension tubes; I'm guessing that two were supplied originally and a third was obtained (possibly non-gen, since the clip is different) when the pip came off on the second tube.

RB: I just made the bit up about tickle tum tums, since it looked about ready to roll over for a good tickling on my bed!

As you may have noticed yesterday, there was a service sticker attached to the ratings plate dated 1972..so perhaps the old hose was replaced then?

Stephen

 

[hooverbaby]

oh I forgot!!

to include the pictures!

 

[hooverbaby]

Here's another..

showing the attachments on the machine..

 

[hooverbaby]

Blue attachments?

Yes David, I've had blue 417 attachments in the past; I may still have some in storage..though I've yet to aquire a blue 417 variant. However, there's a picture somewhere in the archives showing me with one of these machines. I also have one more 417 machine; actually, it's a later version and is a 417G in two-tone green.

Although I used to see 417s from time to time, they were fairly thin on the ground and had often been resprayed, were battered or going rusty.

Stephen

 

[portable]

Thanks for the attachment shots. That is one nice vacuum!

 

[portable]

Is this yours, Stephen? I didn't keep a note of whose picture this was.....

 

[vacbear58]

Here is the picture

Stephen with several 417 variants, a 402 (in the background), and the successor 427 in the foreground. I have added a couple more 417s to my collection and an orange 427.

the picture right above is a 417E and is, I believe, Mike King's.

 

[vacbear58]

A really interesting thing ....

Looking at Stephen's picture above of the wands attached to the tools, you may wonder where is the clip. This is the only Hoover model I am aware of where the pip and clip were at the back of the nozzle rather than the front.

It APPEARS that on Stephen's later replacement hose they have kept this arrangement as teh (now plastic) clip appears also to be on the back. I am surprised that Hoover continued this variant for a single model, but there is is.

The 417 as shown above continued until 1956 when it was replaced by the downgraded (and very short lived) 417C - think this may have had a braided hose. The whole 417 series was downgraded losing pip and clip connections, and the "aerodyne" style carpet nozzle, which was used on the new Constellation, the 417 carpet nozzle (as shown in Mike's above) was something of a throwback to that used on the 402. The floor nozzle also lost the swivel action too. The machine it self was also changed losing the runners for moulded bumps, the lovely arrangement for the blower (which reminds me of teh Lux XXX) and a simplified front end - I do not have instructions for the 417 but it appears to have had provision for paper bags, and if so would have been the first UK cannister to so do, actually I am not sure if it were not the first UK cleaner as I cannot think of an upright which did either at the time - 1953.
Al

 

[collector2]

Just thought I'd throw this in here. This is a model 416 from 1953 (Made in Canada).

 

[hooverbaby]

Al, thanks for the picture!

That's the one I was thinking of..and yes, it does seem odd about the clips being on the back. My metal floor tool does have a swivel joint and hardly seems worn.

I remember selling one of those blue and white 427s in the shop a number of years ago. I also once had an orange and white one but no longer have it.

John, the blue 417 is definately not mine; it could well be Mike King's as Al suggests.

Doug, thanks for the picture of the 416.

Stephen

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoover 417 Series

Hi Stephen, lovely example of the early Hoover 417, quite often the paint finish rusts & peels away, the 417E blue/silver model fares worst...Al well spotted with the underside clips, the original hose is the woven burgundy / black/brown fabric, although I dont think the connector on the original sits and seals as well as the later white replacements!!!

I managed to pick one up a few years ago that was bought by a girls boading school for use solely in the Headmistress`s office, the woodwork teacher made a cabinet box for it, which cant find a pic of at the moment

 

[hooverbaby]

Thanks Mike!

Yes, it is a nice example as far as 417s go; they seem to be harder to find in good original nick than the popular '50s upright models.

It does seem odd about that clip being on the underside of the bent end, if you know what I mean! They must have made two variations of bent ends to fit onto the standard double-stretch hoses?

I've always admired those pictures of yours showing a wide range of Hoover models together in the old house.

Stephen