Hoover Guardsman and Conquest Discontinued?

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I was cruising through some vacuum retailer sites, and I noticed the Guardsman and Conquest are completely out of stock. Amazon, Home Depot, Hoover.com: it's all gone.

What's up TTI? Does anyone know if these lines are completely out of production?

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They are on backorder from the Dealer Portal. I would not be to concerned though. TTI is moving it's commercial manufacturing to Cookeville and what we are seeing could very well be that transition. They would have to stop production to move lines and re establish those lines in America. 
 
Hope they keep the Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright and add it to the production line in the USA - it's a fantastic basic classic upright! They can dump the useless PortaPower that is now packaged with it. Just sell the upright on its own for a cheaper price...TTI, are you listening? You have a winner here that should be in every appliance/hardware/department store in North America!
 
Hoover Conquest

When Hoover moved the production of these to China, the quality went to sh@t. You could try and repair a motor with brand new bearing and housing and a new fan, and it would vibrate and sound terrible. All the new fans were out of balance, the new clear motor housing and bearing hat terrible build quality. Terrible,
Terrible, Terrible. Even the idler pulley brackets wore out extremely fast. Last I heard production was headed to the Oreck plant here in the good ole United States.
 
TTI, etc.

Closing that also now? TTI does own Oreck, and now also imported from China.
Nothing is made to last anymore. Hardly even repairable. Good for the environment?
Not. It still requires energy and raw material to recycle in to new.
China needs the jobs though. They already have all the pollution.
 
Yes the Oreck plant

Is really busy as the last time I drove past parking lot was almost back to normal capacity
 
Hoover is not leaving the commerical market. Hoover has a strong name in commerical floor care just like Sanitaire and Windsor. If anything is leaving you have to watch the Royal line. Royal is going to be slimming down to just the metal uprights which will be made in Tennessee also. Hoover knows their macnines have gone to crap. This is what led them to bring a majority of their manufacturing back here. Let's be realistic though. If the machines are made of parts assembled elsewhere that does not mean the machines are going to be just as bad as they are now. Simplicity and Riccar make most of their machines the same way and you do not see too many of these failing and being tossed out early. Rome was not built in a day. TTI knows they have to make some changes. It will take time to see new machines with much better quality.
 
I don't think Royal is going anywhere anytime soon. The Royal Commercial line of metal vacs with the orange bags, and with the 14" and 18" wide floor nozzles get CRI's Gold Seal of Approval. I own a Household Metal Royal Everlast 8300 made by TTI in China in 2008. This machine is nothing but Quality throughout. It still cleans perfectly and performs the same if not better than my Kirby Sentria. In my opinion, the build quality is the same as any of my Kirby's just not as fancy. The Royal does not have any of the bells and whistles as Kirby, but it is just one well built cleaning machine and at 10 amps, it is a real Beast!


This just proves that TTI can produce a real quality product even though it was made in China!

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Strong point in case Sptyks, but I believe at the price they are selling them for they should be made here in the States. It would just give another good selling point to the product itself.
 
stateside made Hoovers agin

Yes, it would be good for us. From my experiences, Chinese parts just do not last.
Who has ever heard of an old furnace mounted humidistat failing after only 8 years? Not from dust in it, just dead.
I thought the furnace control board wasn't energizing the circuit, so I called for service because the furnace is still under the ten year parts warranty.
The guy wanted to charge me $200.00 on top of the Hundred I paid him to walk in the door for labor. For a $30 dollar part. I tossed him out on his rear.
 
Just in case if anybody else brings this up

They are BOTH gone unfortunately, the Conquest and the Guardsman. If you notice on Hoover Commercial's website, both of their bagless Conquests have been delisted and so will the Guardsman. Just thought I'd let the whole vacuum world know before anyone creates another thread regarding this.
 

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