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Brian told me that I should

change it. It was filled with black dirt. Not much in the way of the grey fuzz, but tons of heavy dirt. It shows how badly Oreck did. I dont' use the upstairs often and tha'ts the carpeted area. I wasn't losing any suction at all either and that was a good thing. The other filters are as white as when they were installed. I ran my fingers over them to see how much dust was on them and there was none. Also, there is no real dust on the black case and I thought there would be a ton since it exhausts around the machine.

I"m very very pleased so far.
 
How about a TriStar CS canister? Super powerful, made of die-cast magnesium, MiniStar electric mini PN, multi-stage filtration, "bag-in-a-bag" cyclonic action. And it's a truly sealed vacuum & no unfiltered air escapes the TriStar vacuum.

I have a Compact C6, TriStar CXL, DXL, 2 EXLs & a brand new CS. One of my EXLs has the Ametek high-performance #115923 two-stage motor.

I paid only $800.00 for the new 2013 TriStar CS, including MiniStar; & have nothing but praises about this vacuum. They get used daily; I give each one its turn so I don't wear out one too much so soon. Sometimes I use more than one vacuum for different vacing jobs, for example I use the EXL for tile floors & carpet, the CXL with Wessel Werk HEB160 PN for car interiors, the new CS with MiniStar for upholstery.

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MiniStar model M101 mini PN for TriStar A101, EXL, MG1, MG2, MG3 & CS Series canister vacuums. Great for vacing dirt & pet hair from upholstery, stairs & automobile interiors. More effective than a turbo (air powered) brush.[this post was last edited: 2/7/2013-01:21]

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I've never heard anything bad about the Tri Star

vacuums. I know they are owned by Aerus and some parts are made in the same plant in VA as the Lux, but I thought the cost for new TOL ones were in the 2k range. I can't find anyone selling them online (with the price posted).
 
I own a Tri Star

MG3 and the last CXL the gripe I have with the MG3 is you must turn vacuum over or stand on end to wrap the cord .


 


For that much money a cord winder should be on that machine . I also own a Ghiblli Vortech force and a Miracle Mate both similar to Tri Star and both have cord winders .
 
funny as I never thought about a cord winder

until I hit this board. I had to have one and it has to be heavy duty in order to not break. It's funny how important a long cord and hose became to me. I was all set to negotiate to by the newest (now discontinued) Capricorn as my wife and I really like the color. I loved all that it offered, but I couldn't get around the shorter cord and hose. I bet Miele did research and found that most who buy don't know the difference in length and it's less costly and allows them to make a bit smaller canister to fit the winder. It also makes it less heavy. I bet that was their trade off.
 
@ctsooner, you are probably right. Miele made a trade off. Most of their european / asian market, I assume has homes that are smaller than most american size homes. We all know we like everything big... our homes, cars, trucks etc. Whereas overseas everything is about being compact. So the tradeoff was that the american market will simply move the vacuum and plug it in a new spot.

As for me I am a generally systematic cleaner so the cord doesn't bother me (probably also since my home is about 1950 sq feet), neither does the hose length. I have a 6-24 ft custom hose/wand setup for above the floor cleaning. As for the cord, I had a vacuum with a pretty long cord in college and all it did was get wrapped around things (table, chairs etc) as I tried to vacuum from room to room. I guess I am more aware of the cord length now and luckily I have a ton of outlets in my house... So for my first floor I have to use 2 plugs locations for the whole first floor and on the 2nd floor I would use 2 as well.

Not too bad IMO. Now if I had to unplug every room and move the vacuum then I probably have an above average size (2100 sq ft house or larger... maybe a spread out ranch style layout) home. Then it will be time to consider a house keeper. :)
 
Size of the home does play a part in which kind of vacuum to get... For a very large home, even if someone did buy a Miele with a short power cord, you can always attach a 50 or 75 foot cord and plug it in once perhaps. I do not think it matters so much to have a long cord. Mostly uprights seem to come with long cords. With a 30 or 40 foot cord on a canister, you might still need to change outlets.
 
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">That's why I always use the EXL & CS TriStar more than any other vacuum I currently own; those MG style TriStars are more convenient to use. Another thing I like about the new style machine is I can connect the MiniStar onto the wand, so I can vacuum the car more comfortably.
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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">The EXL TriStar is my "go-to" or "get-go" vacuum; it stays plugged in just in case I need to catch houseflies or quick vacing.
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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">When the hose is removed from a MG style TriStar, a small "door" closes so dirt doesn't spill out of the vac or flies can't get out.  Usually, I always leave the hose connected to the vacuum.</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Here's my EXL ready for vacing stairs & car interiors.
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Sorry but a long cord extension just isn't practical. Ive tried it. Not in a home with pets or children, or you could just tag the cord up along skirting boards for any vacuum cleaner in the future with a short cord to feed of, of. But I've never seen a home do that or let alone know of anyone who does it. Not only is it dangerous to leave cords lying around, unless you're in a home of your own and you're on your OWN to take advantage of a longer extension cord, I'd find the whole idea untidy. Better to have a machine which has a lot of cord if the product itself has one.

Miele know what they are doing - much to my annoyance. Their smallest cylinder S2 has a 5.5 metre length cord, the S6 features 6 metres and the S8 probably has 6 to 7 metres if you're lucky. They kept the long cord on the Quickstep/Alternative stick vac and their S7 uprights for owners needing more length. But then the UK don't have the Quickstep stick vac anymore so as a Miele buyer if you require a vacuum with a long cord, it has to be the S7 uprights. That's why I bought the SEBO D2 cylinder. I like the lighter weight of a hose, tubes and floor head to get around my large home; not constantly unplugging and plugging when cleaning other parts of the house. The 12 metre cable, large dust bag and longer hose ticks all the boxes. There is a Bosch cylinder vac (the BSGL5000) which has 10 metres of cable on offer but I had that machine before the SEBO and it was poorly made.

Before I bought the Bosch, I bought Miele's extension hose attachment. It kind of works but then doesn't when it keeps wanting to retract back into its holder. It does extend reach but not by very much and it means more weight added to the hose and the back of the handle in normal use.

I don't know about the U.S but in the U.K, when the first S2000 series cylinder/canisters appeared, the extension attachment was a standard accessory that came with it. Miele have now stopped this and released the usual base level S2's without telescopic height adjustable tubes and made to put up with the very short cord on offer.
 
Honestly ...

... I never saw why it is such a big deal to unplug and re-plug. It takes, like, 2 seconds. And I grew up in a large house where frequent plug-changes were the norm. Thought nothing of it.
 
Simplicity/Riccar

i own a simplicity synergy, ( also sold as a Riccar radiance) and it is an excellent cleaner. it vibrates grit out of the carpets, has a 7 year warranty, and is made in saint james,missouri. i would recommend this cleaner.
 

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