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Help! Shopping for New Vacuum and Overwhelmed
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Guess I'm used to plastic
There are all types of plastic and most of the vac's you are all talking about have very good plastic that will last a long long time as long as they are taken care of properly. Now the thing that concerns me is a cracked hose. You really saw hose cracks on demo Sebo's? Mine was nearly new out of the box, so the hose just seemed fine to me.
I would have gone Miele if they had longer cords and or hoses. That was a deal breaker. The Sebo is a large unit. I do notice that in moving it around, but it's also substantial. I wish I could have afforded the Miele or the Aerus platinum, but I wasn't able to.
Will I be selling the Sebo off? Hmmmm.....wish I had the 30 day test drive, lol. I do like it though. Maybe I should stop reading the board with all the Sebo haters, lmao.
There are all types of plastic and most of the vac's you are all talking about have very good plastic that will last a long long time as long as they are taken care of properly. Now the thing that concerns me is a cracked hose. You really saw hose cracks on demo Sebo's? Mine was nearly new out of the box, so the hose just seemed fine to me.
I would have gone Miele if they had longer cords and or hoses. That was a deal breaker. The Sebo is a large unit. I do notice that in moving it around, but it's also substantial. I wish I could have afforded the Miele or the Aerus platinum, but I wasn't able to.
Will I be selling the Sebo off? Hmmmm.....wish I had the 30 day test drive, lol. I do like it though. Maybe I should stop reading the board with all the Sebo haters, lmao.
cracked hose on demo units? consider who uses the demo machines, and what, if any abuse the machines take on a daily basis. heck, i have been to a riccar dealer, and on 2 of his tandem air machines, they had no bag doors on them. and if i am not mistaken, i think that the sebo canister wands are metal, but with plastic on the outside.
Honestly,
unless you have a good reason to sell it, because you do not like it for some reason....then keep your Sebo. Its a great vacuum, not a piece of crap by any means. There are some people on this board that "bash" and "hate" other brands because they need to display superiority and establish brand loyalty within themselves. I like Aerus, however, until the Platinum came out, I can say Miele and Sebo offer many more convenient features, better filtration and a quiet motor compared to any Aerus! Its yet to be seen how well the Platinum will do. Miele and Sebo sell extremely well out there, almost five times as many Miele's are sold to Aerus, I am guessing. I find scores of positive reviews on Miele and Sebo online, barely any from Aerus customers. Aerus seems to just be entering the arena in my opinion, offering features similar to compete with Sebo, Miele, Riccar/Simplicity.
unless you have a good reason to sell it, because you do not like it for some reason....then keep your Sebo. Its a great vacuum, not a piece of crap by any means. There are some people on this board that "bash" and "hate" other brands because they need to display superiority and establish brand loyalty within themselves. I like Aerus, however, until the Platinum came out, I can say Miele and Sebo offer many more convenient features, better filtration and a quiet motor compared to any Aerus! Its yet to be seen how well the Platinum will do. Miele and Sebo sell extremely well out there, almost five times as many Miele's are sold to Aerus, I am guessing. I find scores of positive reviews on Miele and Sebo online, barely any from Aerus customers. Aerus seems to just be entering the arena in my opinion, offering features similar to compete with Sebo, Miele, Riccar/Simplicity.
kirbyloverdan
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I have read this thread
and can`t find anyone saying they hate or are bashing Sebo ?
Just because someone says they do not like a certain vacuum it is not bashing or hating .
Seems like some people just like to try and start trouble on this site and it`s rater childish . If someone says they don`t like a certain brand of vacuum thats their right as an American we do have freedom of speech in this country and as
long as nothing nasty is said why are you trying to put words into other peoples mouths ?
and can`t find anyone saying they hate or are bashing Sebo ?
Just because someone says they do not like a certain vacuum it is not bashing or hating .
Seems like some people just like to try and start trouble on this site and it`s rater childish . If someone says they don`t like a certain brand of vacuum thats their right as an American we do have freedom of speech in this country and as
long as nothing nasty is said why are you trying to put words into other peoples mouths ?
And FYI
my local vacuum shop has told me, and I've seen with my own eye, what comes in for most repairs: mostly the big box store brands/bagless and Kenmore, also some, yes, Electrolux- the grey model canisters (not sure of specific models) 1990's with broken swivel necks and wands that die out. So they can have issues too. I asked why you do not sell Riccar, and they said theyhad problems with them in the past, they were coming in for repair so they stopped carrying them. He went on to tell me that I sell what does not come back.........SEBO, Miele (select models), ProTeam & Royal.
my local vacuum shop has told me, and I've seen with my own eye, what comes in for most repairs: mostly the big box store brands/bagless and Kenmore, also some, yes, Electrolux- the grey model canisters (not sure of specific models) 1990's with broken swivel necks and wands that die out. So they can have issues too. I asked why you do not sell Riccar, and they said theyhad problems with them in the past, they were coming in for repair so they stopped carrying them. He went on to tell me that I sell what does not come back.........SEBO, Miele (select models), ProTeam & Royal.
kirbyloverdan
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And FYI
thats his personal opinion .
Secondly Electrolux did have problems with the swivel neck in the begining it has been worked out . The new Platinum has been in production and sold throughout Europe for a few years now all the bugs have been worked out .Plus the 15 year warranty which is more than most brands out there should be enough .
I was a Miele dealer and had many Miele`s come back for repair so I guess it just depends on what someone wants to tell you .
Unless of course that vacuum shop owner is say the God of vacuum cleaners ?
thats his personal opinion .
Secondly Electrolux did have problems with the swivel neck in the begining it has been worked out . The new Platinum has been in production and sold throughout Europe for a few years now all the bugs have been worked out .Plus the 15 year warranty which is more than most brands out there should be enough .
I was a Miele dealer and had many Miele`s come back for repair so I guess it just depends on what someone wants to tell you .
Unless of course that vacuum shop owner is say the God of vacuum cleaners ?
nycwriter
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About sales figures ...
"Miele and Sebo sell extremely well out there, almost five times as many Miele's are sold to Aerus, I am guessing."
As I pointed out above, you're comparing apples to oranges.
If Aerus was on an equal sales ground with Miele and Sebo, who knows how their sales figures would stack up. Unfortunately, because for many people it's relatively difficult to even FIND an Aerus, how many of those people simply took the easy route and bought the best vacuum they could find *at their local retailer*?
I was almost one of them.
"Miele and Sebo sell extremely well out there, almost five times as many Miele's are sold to Aerus, I am guessing."
As I pointed out above, you're comparing apples to oranges.
If Aerus was on an equal sales ground with Miele and Sebo, who knows how their sales figures would stack up. Unfortunately, because for many people it's relatively difficult to even FIND an Aerus, how many of those people simply took the easy route and bought the best vacuum they could find *at their local retailer*?
I was almost one of them.
durango159
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Numerous Repairs!!
I'm one of those consumers that in many cases prior to buying I search for consumer reviews. Some sites that I visit are Amazon, Epinions, Sears, Target, Wal-Mart and manufacturer. Some of the reviews sound completely legitimate and others are so baffling it's disgusting. The customers claim a unit is shutting off every room and not sure why. Well it's shutting off because the Thermal Protection device is working properly because you're vacuum has overheated from an actual clog obstruction in hose, clogged filter or both. But no the people just empty the dirt cup and can't understand the problem!!! Read the manual.
My neighbor is an awesome family. Such very nice people, chatty, hospitable, we talk all the time, and we've had made numerous dinner exchanges, I could or they cook and we all get together, etc. Well I shampooed their family room carpet one time and used their Simplicity Symmetry upright. Suction was great when I turned it on and it picked well but I sensed it wasn't up to the par it should be and my vacuum curiosity so I checked machine over a little. The bag was completely over stuffed and just about into the fill tube. I even tried reinstalling the bag door with it still on their and couldn't do it all with numerous tries. The bag was QUITE HEAVY too. They were not home at the time, but I'm reasonably familiar with their house and they have absolute trust, I didn't see any replacement bags anywhere. I drove to the local vacuum store and picked up new bags for them. Cleaned the filter and got my job done. I informed them of the full bag and they were astonished, had no clue, hadn't thought about it at all.
I guess my point is that there are varied levels of knowledged and yet also "lackadaisically challenged" consumers on the market. Some buy the most expensive lawn mower and can't understand why it won't work the next season. Well they didn't winterize it properly and the Ethanol ruined system, or they didn't change oil. It's the same of vacuums some unknowledged consumers are actually purchasing more expensive products but abusing them the same way they would a $60 Wolly World Eureka. I saw a very young lackadaisical almost careless to the world couple come into local vacuum dealer while I was in there buying some parts. They had a Kirby Sentria with them!! Not sure how they acquired it, perhaps bought on their own, a Craigslist find, whatever but they had a Kirby Sentria. I was stunned. It needed a belt change because of they sucked up things they shouldn't have.
My point is that with hundreds of millions of homes, and businesses having at least one if not more on premises, then more vacuums sold means more to break down. I always notice people on this forum saying that Hoovers are always in the repair shop. Well what if the most popular vacuum manufacturer in an area and for generations was Hoover, eventually those Hoovers would need something. Some people bring in repair machines for belt changes and clogs. Perhaps I'm over evaluating but I don't believe its a bad thing to see a certain company coming in for repair. Who knows how many of a certain one are in a certain area. I think it comes down to what repair is needed such as the circuit board for a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary canister or melted electrical on Kenmore/ Panasonic hose and wands.
This is just my opinion and another a different direction of looking at repairs.
I'm one of those consumers that in many cases prior to buying I search for consumer reviews. Some sites that I visit are Amazon, Epinions, Sears, Target, Wal-Mart and manufacturer. Some of the reviews sound completely legitimate and others are so baffling it's disgusting. The customers claim a unit is shutting off every room and not sure why. Well it's shutting off because the Thermal Protection device is working properly because you're vacuum has overheated from an actual clog obstruction in hose, clogged filter or both. But no the people just empty the dirt cup and can't understand the problem!!! Read the manual.
My neighbor is an awesome family. Such very nice people, chatty, hospitable, we talk all the time, and we've had made numerous dinner exchanges, I could or they cook and we all get together, etc. Well I shampooed their family room carpet one time and used their Simplicity Symmetry upright. Suction was great when I turned it on and it picked well but I sensed it wasn't up to the par it should be and my vacuum curiosity so I checked machine over a little. The bag was completely over stuffed and just about into the fill tube. I even tried reinstalling the bag door with it still on their and couldn't do it all with numerous tries. The bag was QUITE HEAVY too. They were not home at the time, but I'm reasonably familiar with their house and they have absolute trust, I didn't see any replacement bags anywhere. I drove to the local vacuum store and picked up new bags for them. Cleaned the filter and got my job done. I informed them of the full bag and they were astonished, had no clue, hadn't thought about it at all.
I guess my point is that there are varied levels of knowledged and yet also "lackadaisically challenged" consumers on the market. Some buy the most expensive lawn mower and can't understand why it won't work the next season. Well they didn't winterize it properly and the Ethanol ruined system, or they didn't change oil. It's the same of vacuums some unknowledged consumers are actually purchasing more expensive products but abusing them the same way they would a $60 Wolly World Eureka. I saw a very young lackadaisical almost careless to the world couple come into local vacuum dealer while I was in there buying some parts. They had a Kirby Sentria with them!! Not sure how they acquired it, perhaps bought on their own, a Craigslist find, whatever but they had a Kirby Sentria. I was stunned. It needed a belt change because of they sucked up things they shouldn't have.
My point is that with hundreds of millions of homes, and businesses having at least one if not more on premises, then more vacuums sold means more to break down. I always notice people on this forum saying that Hoovers are always in the repair shop. Well what if the most popular vacuum manufacturer in an area and for generations was Hoover, eventually those Hoovers would need something. Some people bring in repair machines for belt changes and clogs. Perhaps I'm over evaluating but I don't believe its a bad thing to see a certain company coming in for repair. Who knows how many of a certain one are in a certain area. I think it comes down to what repair is needed such as the circuit board for a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary canister or melted electrical on Kenmore/ Panasonic hose and wands.
This is just my opinion and another a different direction of looking at repairs.
nycwriter
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Very astute, Durango ...
I think many people also try to make the point that since there are SO many old Hoovers and Kirbys on eBay, they must not be good machines because so many people are getting rid of them.
On the contrary.
What's the percentage of, say, pre-1983 vacuums on the second-hand market, versus POST-1983? I'd say it's significantly higher, because most of the post-1983 stuff is plastic crap that people THREW AWAY years ago. I think the very fact that machines from the '70s, '60s, '50s, and even dating back to the '20s are even still around are testimony to their superiority.
Most of the time, these old machines are for sale on eBay because they're part of an estate that's being liquidated -- not necessarily because they're being replaced.
I think many people also try to make the point that since there are SO many old Hoovers and Kirbys on eBay, they must not be good machines because so many people are getting rid of them.
On the contrary.
What's the percentage of, say, pre-1983 vacuums on the second-hand market, versus POST-1983? I'd say it's significantly higher, because most of the post-1983 stuff is plastic crap that people THREW AWAY years ago. I think the very fact that machines from the '70s, '60s, '50s, and even dating back to the '20s are even still around are testimony to their superiority.
Most of the time, these old machines are for sale on eBay because they're part of an estate that's being liquidated -- not necessarily because they're being replaced.
durango159
Well-known member
Another way of evaluating products is by how long a consumer holds onto something. A $60 Eureka may be quite disposable to someone they wouldn't care about replacing it with an upgrade in a few years.
On the contrary if you purchased a Miele White Pearl from around 1996, you bought a quality vacuum with lots of features and good performance. What would you upgrade to-- something newer that's not as durable?? OR Are you going to run that Miele White Pearl until the day it dies, whether that's 10 or 25 years. Another way of looking at why Mieles aren't as much on the resale market.
A Hoover Convertible upright or Electrolux Jubilee on the other hand might be machines to trade after some years to get something more user friendly. By trading your Hoover Convertible you can find a machine with better filtration, easier attachment use, better suction for attachments, etc. By trading Hoover Elite you can upgrade to better filtration, clean air design that can handle abuse of a penny being sucked in, agitator on/off control, better attachment suction and quieter. By trading in Lux J you may get better filtration, better sealed hose, a Sidekick powered hand tool, longer hose, headlight equipped power head, agitator on/off switch and other features.
I've heard several local vacuum shops tell me in my search for refurbed canister vacuums that consumers have a higher tendency to hold onto canister vacuums until they die. They're not traded as much. Even if a canister owner decides to buy an upright they still hold onto the canister as a great back up vacuum and love them for versatility of easy stairwell cleaning, car interior cleaning, vacuuming under furniture, etc.
On the contrary if you purchased a Miele White Pearl from around 1996, you bought a quality vacuum with lots of features and good performance. What would you upgrade to-- something newer that's not as durable?? OR Are you going to run that Miele White Pearl until the day it dies, whether that's 10 or 25 years. Another way of looking at why Mieles aren't as much on the resale market.
A Hoover Convertible upright or Electrolux Jubilee on the other hand might be machines to trade after some years to get something more user friendly. By trading your Hoover Convertible you can find a machine with better filtration, easier attachment use, better suction for attachments, etc. By trading Hoover Elite you can upgrade to better filtration, clean air design that can handle abuse of a penny being sucked in, agitator on/off control, better attachment suction and quieter. By trading in Lux J you may get better filtration, better sealed hose, a Sidekick powered hand tool, longer hose, headlight equipped power head, agitator on/off switch and other features.
I've heard several local vacuum shops tell me in my search for refurbed canister vacuums that consumers have a higher tendency to hold onto canister vacuums until they die. They're not traded as much. Even if a canister owner decides to buy an upright they still hold onto the canister as a great back up vacuum and love them for versatility of easy stairwell cleaning, car interior cleaning, vacuuming under furniture, etc.
nycwriter
Well-known member
Buyer's remorse ...
Don't give in to it!
Look, all of these "upper tier" vacuums are *very* good at their primary function: removing dirt. Some are better than others ... and on the high end, you're really splitting hairs, with the main differences being fit, finish, and features.
Enjoy your vacuum. Love it. Treat it well and it will treat YOU well.
Don't give in to it!
Look, all of these "upper tier" vacuums are *very* good at their primary function: removing dirt. Some are better than others ... and on the high end, you're really splitting hairs, with the main differences being fit, finish, and features.
Enjoy your vacuum. Love it. Treat it well and it will treat YOU well.
My house cleaner is back
After 2,5 years we can now afford to have the housecleaner back. She's awesome. From Brazil. Not sure what she uses, but she just checked out the Sebo and it using it today. I'll let you all know what she thinks.
After 2,5 years we can now afford to have the housecleaner back. She's awesome. From Brazil. Not sure what she uses, but she just checked out the Sebo and it using it today. I'll let you all know what she thinks.
nycwriter
Well-known member
Bully for you guys ...
... who have housekeepers.
I tried and it's just not a good fit for me. My standards are just way too high, and I found that working my schedule around hers was more of a pain in the butt than just doing it myself.
Truth to tell, I've found that when you work a mentally taxing and stressful job, housecleaning can be wonderfully therapeutic. And humbling. The world would be a much better place if people in positions of power, 15 minutes a week, got down on their hands and knees and scrubbed their own toilets, tubs, and bathroom floors.
... who have housekeepers.
I tried and it's just not a good fit for me. My standards are just way too high, and I found that working my schedule around hers was more of a pain in the butt than just doing it myself.
Truth to tell, I've found that when you work a mentally taxing and stressful job, housecleaning can be wonderfully therapeutic. And humbling. The world would be a much better place if people in positions of power, 15 minutes a week, got down on their hands and knees and scrubbed their own toilets, tubs, and bathroom floors.
Once MS hit
I wasn't able to get around quite as good as I used to. I love to clean and do it daily, but I can't get down on the floor well to get to the deep cleaning and stuff. When I worked, it was at least 12 hour days and there wasn't time to do anything but work, workout, run the kids around and hopefully get 5 hours sleep. I have a woman who does have the highest of standards and she's not expensive. Since I clean a fair amount, she only comes twice a month. It's kind of a treat to my wife who owns her own insurance agency and isn't getting home until 9 or 10 at night and then doing another hour or two of work before bed. It works nicely for us.
I wasn't able to get around quite as good as I used to. I love to clean and do it daily, but I can't get down on the floor well to get to the deep cleaning and stuff. When I worked, it was at least 12 hour days and there wasn't time to do anything but work, workout, run the kids around and hopefully get 5 hours sleep. I have a woman who does have the highest of standards and she's not expensive. Since I clean a fair amount, she only comes twice a month. It's kind of a treat to my wife who owns her own insurance agency and isn't getting home until 9 or 10 at night and then doing another hour or two of work before bed. It works nicely for us.
stricklybojack
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Zen & the art of vacuum acquistion...
A circumstance of choices & trade offs that leads to, 'pick your poison' senarios...
Perfectionists with carpeting or rugs, beware, here lie dragons...
Big box plasti-vac buyers have the best machine...for them. Cheap, & or flashy, & rated in a consumer magzine for easy & comfortable decision making. When the jigs up just pony up another c note (give or take). The failure rate is like hard drives, a certain percent are duds & the negative review gets posted double time. Far more do all the customer wanted in the first place & everbody is happy until planned obselences will have them buying again just about the time they see another that catches their eye & on sale too...just the part & parcel trade off in this path of least resistance choice.
At the other end of the senario spectrum has been playing out in this thread. A Robert Persig* like search for quality & 'Quality'. Some find it in 'the best, TOL money can buy'. Again the right choice, for them...Trade offs here include time spent, money spent, dependence on shop for repairs (plati-vacs can be trashed & replaced for less than many high end vac repairs) etc...
All this is par for the course when one considers the engineers who designed the vacuum in the first place were also caught up in a labyrinth of trade offs in their design choices, so too were the directors of the companies that employ(ed) them, but their concerns were instead business related.
(sigh) Maybe why we all caught this bug, it's a beckoning puzzle waiting to be solved, again & again, and so on...
I own an armada of metal & or vintage machines waiting to be repaired & put to work or already in operation. But i just bought a nearly new, TOL Kenmore upright, in a Beautiful blue green hue, with a svelt aluminum wand that i love. Full circle from the Comercial Royal that was my first vac buy after i caught the bug. But the Kenmore machine is hard to push across the carpet (like many reviewers mentioned). I took a flier on it as an Ebay demo unit, a trade off in buying without trying, but for only $86 delivered. I also just spent about that amount in a box full of consumables for my fleet of trash picks & Craigslist finds...but using those resurrected vacs is most satisfying. Not as fun for me as the hunt to acquire them, but the most fun i'm going to have running a vacuum.
* Author, Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, see link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Pirsig
A circumstance of choices & trade offs that leads to, 'pick your poison' senarios...
Perfectionists with carpeting or rugs, beware, here lie dragons...
Big box plasti-vac buyers have the best machine...for them. Cheap, & or flashy, & rated in a consumer magzine for easy & comfortable decision making. When the jigs up just pony up another c note (give or take). The failure rate is like hard drives, a certain percent are duds & the negative review gets posted double time. Far more do all the customer wanted in the first place & everbody is happy until planned obselences will have them buying again just about the time they see another that catches their eye & on sale too...just the part & parcel trade off in this path of least resistance choice.
At the other end of the senario spectrum has been playing out in this thread. A Robert Persig* like search for quality & 'Quality'. Some find it in 'the best, TOL money can buy'. Again the right choice, for them...Trade offs here include time spent, money spent, dependence on shop for repairs (plati-vacs can be trashed & replaced for less than many high end vac repairs) etc...
All this is par for the course when one considers the engineers who designed the vacuum in the first place were also caught up in a labyrinth of trade offs in their design choices, so too were the directors of the companies that employ(ed) them, but their concerns were instead business related.
(sigh) Maybe why we all caught this bug, it's a beckoning puzzle waiting to be solved, again & again, and so on...
I own an armada of metal & or vintage machines waiting to be repaired & put to work or already in operation. But i just bought a nearly new, TOL Kenmore upright, in a Beautiful blue green hue, with a svelt aluminum wand that i love. Full circle from the Comercial Royal that was my first vac buy after i caught the bug. But the Kenmore machine is hard to push across the carpet (like many reviewers mentioned). I took a flier on it as an Ebay demo unit, a trade off in buying without trying, but for only $86 delivered. I also just spent about that amount in a box full of consumables for my fleet of trash picks & Craigslist finds...but using those resurrected vacs is most satisfying. Not as fun for me as the hunt to acquire them, but the most fun i'm going to have running a vacuum.
* Author, Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, see link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Pirsig
Kirby, Rainbow, Thermax machines are better values because they convert into carpet/rug shampooers.
stricklybojack
Well-known member
well U G...
You know what you like. I have a old Filter queen with a power head that seems worhless for the rugs i have. So i'm interest in Rainbow but i have the same issue with the older models that fit my price range...shite power team. For me i don't shampoo the rug so the ability to do so is not a selling point. Like kirby & that whole mess of attachments i never want to use...once it clicked in my bain i didn't have to i warmed up to the brand & now own 3. The brands you mentioned generally don't work in a situation that calls for a light weight machine...not your concern i guess.
You know what you like. I have a old Filter queen with a power head that seems worhless for the rugs i have. So i'm interest in Rainbow but i have the same issue with the older models that fit my price range...shite power team. For me i don't shampoo the rug so the ability to do so is not a selling point. Like kirby & that whole mess of attachments i never want to use...once it clicked in my bain i didn't have to i warmed up to the brand & now own 3. The brands you mentioned generally don't work in a situation that calls for a light weight machine...not your concern i guess.
NYCWriter,
There aren't too many vacuums sold today that I'd much care to use as I prefer using my 60s and 70s Hoovers.
The few modern vacuums I have tried and like have already been touched upon here, the only new vacuums I personally like in ease of use and quality are the Aerus upright and any of the Aerus canister line.
I've had an Electrolux(aerus) Epic 6500 for a few years that Ive really enjoyed using and I am by no means a canister lover.
I hope you find the right vacuum for your needs that you will be happy with.
I happened to notice also that you mentioned earlier in this thread you were considering buying a second home in Pittsburgh. Being from the rural outskirts of Pittsburgh I'd be pleased to meet you and take you around if you are ever visiting Pittsburgh or purchase a second home here.
Sam
There aren't too many vacuums sold today that I'd much care to use as I prefer using my 60s and 70s Hoovers.
The few modern vacuums I have tried and like have already been touched upon here, the only new vacuums I personally like in ease of use and quality are the Aerus upright and any of the Aerus canister line.
I've had an Electrolux(aerus) Epic 6500 for a few years that Ive really enjoyed using and I am by no means a canister lover.
I hope you find the right vacuum for your needs that you will be happy with.
I happened to notice also that you mentioned earlier in this thread you were considering buying a second home in Pittsburgh. Being from the rural outskirts of Pittsburgh I'd be pleased to meet you and take you around if you are ever visiting Pittsburgh or purchase a second home here.
Sam
nycwriter
Well-known member
Thanks xraytech ...
Where exactly do you live?
Where exactly do you live?
nycwriter
Well-known member
Thank you strictlybojack ...
"The brands you mentioned generally don't work in a situation that calls for a light weight machine...not your concern i guess."
KirbyUltimateG really loves his Kirbys (and Rainbows, for that matter).
So do I.
But I don't have *acres* of wide-open carpeted areas like in Downton Abbey. Fully half of my flooring is hardwood, and much of the carpeting is under furniture and in tight alcoves that are difficult to maneuver a beastly Kirby into.
Kirby = HOUSE.
x = APARTMENT.
Find x.
The answer I've found, after much searching, is that "x" for me is a no-fuss canister (all due respect to the Rainbow).
"The brands you mentioned generally don't work in a situation that calls for a light weight machine...not your concern i guess."
KirbyUltimateG really loves his Kirbys (and Rainbows, for that matter).
So do I.
But I don't have *acres* of wide-open carpeted areas like in Downton Abbey. Fully half of my flooring is hardwood, and much of the carpeting is under furniture and in tight alcoves that are difficult to maneuver a beastly Kirby into.
Kirby = HOUSE.
x = APARTMENT.
Find x.
The answer I've found, after much searching, is that "x" for me is a no-fuss canister (all due respect to the Rainbow).
sebo_fan
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Ive said it before and ill say it again
The reason the D series is HUGE is because it has a HUGE amount of cable that SEBO fitted to it (12M) and compared to the C series canister which is a lot smaller. The dust bag is also pretty big. No other reason - which is probably why Miele would find it difficult to contain twice as much cable in such a compact body as their latest S8 - if they actually installed their canister vacuums with the same amount of cord length.
The reason the D series is HUGE is because it has a HUGE amount of cable that SEBO fitted to it (12M) and compared to the C series canister which is a lot smaller. The dust bag is also pretty big. No other reason - which is probably why Miele would find it difficult to contain twice as much cable in such a compact body as their latest S8 - if they actually installed their canister vacuums with the same amount of cord length.
I'm enjoying the Sebo
My cleaner did also. She just plugs it in and can do each floor with it plugged into a central outlet. She really likes the machine and didn't find it cumbersome or heavy at all. She said it went where she pulled it. I can tell you that the bag really is huge and I had so much deep crap on the carpet that it's vacuumed up. She said it was much much quicker for her to use than her Kenmore. She just set the PN at '2' and it was fine for everything. There are always better things on the market as you go, but even the Aerus is a think skin of metal that dents and scratches easily and it shows. There isn't a perfect machine yet and never will be. I'm having fun learning though. Thanks.
My cleaner did also. She just plugs it in and can do each floor with it plugged into a central outlet. She really likes the machine and didn't find it cumbersome or heavy at all. She said it went where she pulled it. I can tell you that the bag really is huge and I had so much deep crap on the carpet that it's vacuumed up. She said it was much much quicker for her to use than her Kenmore. She just set the PN at '2' and it was fine for everything. There are always better things on the market as you go, but even the Aerus is a think skin of metal that dents and scratches easily and it shows. There isn't a perfect machine yet and never will be. I'm having fun learning though. Thanks.
I'd say there are about 4 or 5
canisters that stand out that are fairly 'main steam' and not sold door to door. From what I saw, it's not even always the TOL models from companies nor is it always their newest offerings. The only think I wish my power nozzle had was an LED light that is actually angled down and not straight ahead. I felt that's one area the Moxie missed on. I like all the controls at the finger tips. I do wish the Miele 236 head was L shaped as it's just easier to move around the furniture during quick pick ups. That and a savings of over 300 was what pushed me Sebo's way in the end I think. If I could have the Miele Capricorn or S8 with 236 head, Sebo or TOL Riccar/Simplicity, I'd probably go Miele then Sebo, but after having both in the house, I'd chose Sebo for the cord and hose lengths. It's just so easy to plug and play.
canisters that stand out that are fairly 'main steam' and not sold door to door. From what I saw, it's not even always the TOL models from companies nor is it always their newest offerings. The only think I wish my power nozzle had was an LED light that is actually angled down and not straight ahead. I felt that's one area the Moxie missed on. I like all the controls at the finger tips. I do wish the Miele 236 head was L shaped as it's just easier to move around the furniture during quick pick ups. That and a savings of over 300 was what pushed me Sebo's way in the end I think. If I could have the Miele Capricorn or S8 with 236 head, Sebo or TOL Riccar/Simplicity, I'd probably go Miele then Sebo, but after having both in the house, I'd chose Sebo for the cord and hose lengths. It's just so easy to plug and play.
NYCwriter,
I'm located in Washington county about 30 minutes from the airport, and also about 30 minutes from the South Hills of Pittsburgh where there are some great higher end neighborhoods is Upper St. Clair, Mount Lebanon, and Bethel Park.
I'm also about 40-45 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh
I'll shoot you a private email as well.
I'm located in Washington county about 30 minutes from the airport, and also about 30 minutes from the South Hills of Pittsburgh where there are some great higher end neighborhoods is Upper St. Clair, Mount Lebanon, and Bethel Park.
I'm also about 40-45 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh
I'll shoot you a private email as well.
nycwriter
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I'm going with the Lux.
Just looking now for the best price.
I'm going with the Lux.
Just looking now for the best price.
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