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I am down to the Simplicity and a Miele. While I would prefer to buy American, I can't seem to rule out the Miele machines quite yet.
I'll need to take both for a test drive before I can make a final decision. Of course I will report back my thoughts after all is said and done.
Malcolm
I am down to the Simplicity and a Miele. While I would prefer to buy American, I can't seem to rule out the Miele machines quite yet.
I'll need to take both for a test drive before I can make a final decision. Of course I will report back my thoughts after all is said and done.
Malcolm
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A good tip when considering Mieles, look at the cost of the bags, and the size of the bags too, cos they're pretty small and pretty expensive, and small bags fill quickly and need replacing often, which gets expensive, even when using generics, an upright like a Sanitaire has huge bags which last a long time with frequent use, and cannisters like Sebo C or K series models have pretty decent size bags too, and of course bigger bags means better filtration, and better filtration is better efficiency... 
Cost on the day of purchase is not really the best thing to be considering, you need to look at the cost of operating a vac over a period of time, say a year, I've used a set of 5 bags in my miele in less than a year, but I haven't gotten through a pack of Tristar bags since I first got my CXL, and that's with double-bagging too (only got single-ply bags), and I use both about the same (though doing different tasks), so, yeah, think about your potential purchase wisely, and if you want to buy an American cannister, buy a Tristar CXL, even if it's used, it's still a damned fine vac, and an Upright (even if most are made in Mexico these days) would be a Sanitaire S677, both excellent quality vacs, readily available, off-the-shelf consumables and parts, and can't be beaten, unless it's with a Sebo, but they're a tad pricey...
Cost on the day of purchase is not really the best thing to be considering, you need to look at the cost of operating a vac over a period of time, say a year, I've used a set of 5 bags in my miele in less than a year, but I haven't gotten through a pack of Tristar bags since I first got my CXL, and that's with double-bagging too (only got single-ply bags), and I use both about the same (though doing different tasks), so, yeah, think about your potential purchase wisely, and if you want to buy an American cannister, buy a Tristar CXL, even if it's used, it's still a damned fine vac, and an Upright (even if most are made in Mexico these days) would be a Sanitaire S677, both excellent quality vacs, readily available, off-the-shelf consumables and parts, and can't be beaten, unless it's with a Sebo, but they're a tad pricey...
scvacuumguy
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Not to be a downer Malcom, but most of the people responding do not work in the vacuum field, they are collectors who enjoy certain types.
Nobody has bothered to ask you what surface you are vacuuming. When you go to your local Riccar or Simplicity dealer, they are trained and experienced to help you buy something that matches your home, budget, and cleaning needs.
I want to correct a few things you have been told about Riccar. The Supralite comes in 4 different models. RSL1, RSL3, RSL4, and RSL5. You can view Riccar's website and find out the various costs and visit your local dealers for the best product.
The Carpet Pro's and Fuller Brush vacuums are nothing like the Riccar or Simplicity vacuums. They are built to handle a more mass-produced lower end market.
Tacony vacuums are made for people with carpet, bare floors, tile, laminate, or any surface. There are Vibrance uprights that handle carpet only, and some with a switch to turn off the brush roll. Some supralites have lower speeds that you can switch to for bare floors. The Tandem Air Models (Brilliance, Radiance) have brush roll shut offs for bare floors. The extensive canister line also is obviously for homes with both surfaces.
The supralites have no attachments. The Vibrance and Tandem Air series' have wonderful on-board tools with telescoping wands and great on board attachments. You can also purchase an attachment set with a 15' hose separately.
97% of our customers who buy Riccar fall in love with the product and enjoy it. If you are skeptical, try a 30 day trial dealer. That gives you 30 days to try out the machine and return it, no questions asked, if you are dissatisfied in any way.
Nobody has bothered to ask you what surface you are vacuuming. When you go to your local Riccar or Simplicity dealer, they are trained and experienced to help you buy something that matches your home, budget, and cleaning needs.
I want to correct a few things you have been told about Riccar. The Supralite comes in 4 different models. RSL1, RSL3, RSL4, and RSL5. You can view Riccar's website and find out the various costs and visit your local dealers for the best product.
The Carpet Pro's and Fuller Brush vacuums are nothing like the Riccar or Simplicity vacuums. They are built to handle a more mass-produced lower end market.
Tacony vacuums are made for people with carpet, bare floors, tile, laminate, or any surface. There are Vibrance uprights that handle carpet only, and some with a switch to turn off the brush roll. Some supralites have lower speeds that you can switch to for bare floors. The Tandem Air Models (Brilliance, Radiance) have brush roll shut offs for bare floors. The extensive canister line also is obviously for homes with both surfaces.
The supralites have no attachments. The Vibrance and Tandem Air series' have wonderful on-board tools with telescoping wands and great on board attachments. You can also purchase an attachment set with a 15' hose separately.
97% of our customers who buy Riccar fall in love with the product and enjoy it. If you are skeptical, try a 30 day trial dealer. That gives you 30 days to try out the machine and return it, no questions asked, if you are dissatisfied in any way.
hoovercelebrity
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Nobody has bothered to ask you what surface you are vacuumi
I totally agree with that. When people find out about my hobby and collections, I get asked all the time if vacuums are "good", or "what's the best...", or "I have a ___, is it a good vacuum?.."
My first reply is usually "What are you cleaning or what are you going to be cleaning with it...?" I learned long ago that there is no vacuum which is "perfect"... Everyone has different needs to be met by a vacuum cleaner, and only through knowing those needs (carpet, bare floor, above the floor cleaning, bag/bagless, etc...) -- along with a user's preferences (upright/canister), can one narrow it down to a close match.
I do absolutely love my Miele canister. Without a doubt, out of all of the machines in this house -- it's one of the cleaners I use most frequently. It's just so easy, so well made, and so quiet. Robert loves it too, (not that he gets a chance to do much vacuuming).
I totally agree with that. When people find out about my hobby and collections, I get asked all the time if vacuums are "good", or "what's the best...", or "I have a ___, is it a good vacuum?.."
My first reply is usually "What are you cleaning or what are you going to be cleaning with it...?" I learned long ago that there is no vacuum which is "perfect"... Everyone has different needs to be met by a vacuum cleaner, and only through knowing those needs (carpet, bare floor, above the floor cleaning, bag/bagless, etc...) -- along with a user's preferences (upright/canister), can one narrow it down to a close match.
I do absolutely love my Miele canister. Without a doubt, out of all of the machines in this house -- it's one of the cleaners I use most frequently. It's just so easy, so well made, and so quiet. Robert loves it too, (not that he gets a chance to do much vacuuming).
scvacuumguy
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Fred, you are the difference between an obsessive enthusiast and a true collector!
You used to work for Hoover, though, didn't you?
You used to work for Hoover, though, didn't you?
hoovercelebrity
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Yep, it's true. 5 years at a factory service center. It was wonderful.
Floor Type
Primarily, the vacuum cleaner will be used to clean a cut pile carpet which spans most of the house. Other than that, I would like to have a long enough hose/pipe to reach the cobwebs in the corners of the ceiling when needed. A bare floor attachment would be helpful as well.
Is there any reason to chose a Riccar over a Simplicity or the other way around? They seem to have almost identical units.
Malcolm
Primarily, the vacuum cleaner will be used to clean a cut pile carpet which spans most of the house. Other than that, I would like to have a long enough hose/pipe to reach the cobwebs in the corners of the ceiling when needed. A bare floor attachment would be helpful as well.
Is there any reason to chose a Riccar over a Simplicity or the other way around? They seem to have almost identical units.
Malcolm
scvacuumguy
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Riccar and Simplicity are the same thing- same great dealers standing behind the same great products. Not sure what your price range is, but I would try a Vibrance Premium upright by Riccar with 15' attachment set or a Pristine or Immaculate canister.
Georgia Vacuum and Sewing (770-963-1910) over in Lawrenceville is a great place to look. They are a full line retailer and will have all of the Riccars on display.
If you want to try one and have a 30 day free trial, check with Vacuums Etc. (770-479-4001) in Canton and you can do a 30 day free trial. It may be worth the 30 mile drive just to do the free trial, or you may be able to get GA Vac and sew to do it for you.
I just noticed you lived in Buford- my family almost purchased Tapp Funeral Home over on Morningside Dr. years ago!
Georgia Vacuum and Sewing (770-963-1910) over in Lawrenceville is a great place to look. They are a full line retailer and will have all of the Riccars on display.
If you want to try one and have a 30 day free trial, check with Vacuums Etc. (770-479-4001) in Canton and you can do a 30 day free trial. It may be worth the 30 mile drive just to do the free trial, or you may be able to get GA Vac and sew to do it for you.
I just noticed you lived in Buford- my family almost purchased Tapp Funeral Home over on Morningside Dr. years ago!
kirbyloverdan
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I was a Simplicity Dealer
and the machine are just designed a little different although I like Riccar for some models and Simplicity for others. It`s really just away to have both brands in the same town with out causing any same brand competition between dealers . You can tell the machines are very similar upon visiting both Simplicity and Riccar dealers . I prefer Riccar/Simplicity over the newer Miele`s I think they offer more features for the money and I prefer the older Mieles to today`s . I gave my Sister a Blue Moon and a Capricorn The blue moon is used Daily downstairs and her Capricorn is used upstairs twice a week and the Capricorn is not holding up at all . My sister is very gentle with her vacuums and cleans them before she puts them away I tought her well . I was also a Miele dealer too , love German products drive German cars but when it comes to Vacuums I prefer Simplicity/Riccar all American made vacuums !
and the machine are just designed a little different although I like Riccar for some models and Simplicity for others. It`s really just away to have both brands in the same town with out causing any same brand competition between dealers . You can tell the machines are very similar upon visiting both Simplicity and Riccar dealers . I prefer Riccar/Simplicity over the newer Miele`s I think they offer more features for the money and I prefer the older Mieles to today`s . I gave my Sister a Blue Moon and a Capricorn The blue moon is used Daily downstairs and her Capricorn is used upstairs twice a week and the Capricorn is not holding up at all . My sister is very gentle with her vacuums and cleans them before she puts them away I tought her well . I was also a Miele dealer too , love German products drive German cars but when it comes to Vacuums I prefer Simplicity/Riccar all American made vacuums !
I'm another Miele guy. We've had ours about 7 years and it's great. It is so quiet you can actually hear the dust & dirt coming up the tube.
I went with a neighbor about a year ago to look at vacuums. We went to a Simplicity dealer. The guy seemed nice. He also had several old beat up Mieles for sale. During the sales process he kept telling the potential customers "You want to buy a vac that won't end up looking like THOSE (Mieles) in a year or so, don't you?". I thought that was unfair. So the neighbor bought the Simplicity for about $750.00 just because "The salesman was nice."
We got the vac home to her house and put it together and started it up. I found it to me not nearly as powerful as our Miele is. She like it though, and I guess that's all that counts.
A couple of months later this woman called me and said that the vac is not working anymore and that she wants to return it. I told her the dealer is not likely to take it back after a couple of months. So we went over to her house.
The first thing that struck me when I saw the vac was the red light that says "BAG" was on. I opened it up and the bag was overflowing with dirt!
I told her that the vac dealer is not going to take a vac back that only needs a bag change. She said she didn't realize that changing the bag would need to be done so often!
I sometimes wonder how many of these kinds of customers you see?
I went with a neighbor about a year ago to look at vacuums. We went to a Simplicity dealer. The guy seemed nice. He also had several old beat up Mieles for sale. During the sales process he kept telling the potential customers "You want to buy a vac that won't end up looking like THOSE (Mieles) in a year or so, don't you?". I thought that was unfair. So the neighbor bought the Simplicity for about $750.00 just because "The salesman was nice."
We got the vac home to her house and put it together and started it up. I found it to me not nearly as powerful as our Miele is. She like it though, and I guess that's all that counts.
A couple of months later this woman called me and said that the vac is not working anymore and that she wants to return it. I told her the dealer is not likely to take it back after a couple of months. So we went over to her house.
The first thing that struck me when I saw the vac was the red light that says "BAG" was on. I opened it up and the bag was overflowing with dirt!
I told her that the vac dealer is not going to take a vac back that only needs a bag change. She said she didn't realize that changing the bag would need to be done so often!
I sometimes wonder how many of these kinds of customers you see?
Simplicity
I plan to check out the Simplicity dealer tomorrow. If I am still not 100% sold, I will drive out to Woodstock for a look at the Riccar next weekend. Fortunately, my Dyson is still holding on. So I am not under the gun to purchase in a hurry. Which is they way I prefer to handle shopping.
Malcolm
I plan to check out the Simplicity dealer tomorrow. If I am still not 100% sold, I will drive out to Woodstock for a look at the Riccar next weekend. Fortunately, my Dyson is still holding on. So I am not under the gun to purchase in a hurry. Which is they way I prefer to handle shopping.
Malcolm
Done Deal
Well, I just got home from All Wholesale Vacuum in Gainesville. I purchase the Simplicity Synergy upright. Totally impressed with the build quality. Once I get through the Owner's Manual, I will unleash the beast on the house.
I think I made a fine choice.
Malcolm
Well, I just got home from All Wholesale Vacuum in Gainesville. I purchase the Simplicity Synergy upright. Totally impressed with the build quality. Once I get through the Owner's Manual, I will unleash the beast on the house.
I think I made a fine choice.
Malcolm
WOW!
Nothing cleans like a new vacuum cleaner. This thing out performs the Dyson in carpet grooming alone. Just awesome! I'll be cleaning on a more regular basis for sure. I also like the horse hair dusting brush. So soft!
Thanks to all who offered their advice.
Happy Vacuumer Here!
Malcolm
Nothing cleans like a new vacuum cleaner. This thing out performs the Dyson in carpet grooming alone. Just awesome! I'll be cleaning on a more regular basis for sure. I also like the horse hair dusting brush. So soft!
Thanks to all who offered their advice.
Happy Vacuumer Here!
Malcolm
Bags
That was a pleasant surprise, the bags are relatively inexpensive compared with other brands. Six bags for 14.50. I am infatuated with this machine. Tomorrow, I will try cleaning the a/c vents and dusting furniture with it. So far, I am greatly impressed.
Malcolm
That was a pleasant surprise, the bags are relatively inexpensive compared with other brands. Six bags for 14.50. I am infatuated with this machine. Tomorrow, I will try cleaning the a/c vents and dusting furniture with it. So far, I am greatly impressed.
Malcolm
scvacuumguy
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You made a great choice Malcom! Us Riccar/Simplicity dealers will always be there to take care of you! Welcome to the Tacony family!
