Have you ever gone without washing Dyson filter(s)?
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Those are some filthy Dyson filters! But it's good to hear that your DC24 is still working, Blakaeg.
As for copying of cyclonic technology, I have a Bissell canister with multi-cyclonic technology that filters quite well!. I do see some pet hair and dust on the pre-motor filter, but not as bad as my Hoover.
I'm looking at a Hoover Windtunnel Air Steerable for my mom. The swivel steering would make vacuuming smoother and easier, especially in a small apartment.
I would like to try a DC65 in the future. It looks like it would clean the heck out of my carpets!
Those are some filthy Dyson filters! But it's good to hear that your DC24 is still working, Blakaeg.
As for copying of cyclonic technology, I have a Bissell canister with multi-cyclonic technology that filters quite well!. I do see some pet hair and dust on the pre-motor filter, but not as bad as my Hoover.
I'm looking at a Hoover Windtunnel Air Steerable for my mom. The swivel steering would make vacuuming smoother and easier, especially in a small apartment.
I would like to try a DC65 in the future. It looks like it would clean the heck out of my carpets!
I dunno what's wrong me, but I want a Mach air reach from Vax! :/ probs cos of the Dyson looks and design but its pretty cool! I'm worried though that SOOOOOO SOOOOOO many people with Mach aria say that the motors blow for no reason. IM like what?! Really?! But its under normal use. But the six year guarantee involves sending the vacuum by post ugh
At present my 2 only Dysons sit at the back of the pile.No longer use them.Kirby is So MUCH better!No filters-don't mind changing bags.
blakaeg
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Please let us know how you are getting on with the DC65 when you get it 
sptyks
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Yes Tolivac, I agree.
And the Kirby bags are so huge, I only need to change mine every six months.
And the Kirby bags are so huge, I only need to change mine every six months.
Tolivac, yes, the nice thing about bags is that you don't have to make contact with the dirt when changing the bag. It's much cleaner than emptying a dirt cup. And there are no messy filters to wash! However, you will have to keep buying bags, which gets expensive over time.
Blakaeg, I'm not sure if I will get a DC65. I have a perfectly good Hoover upright that cleans very well. Plus, the DC65 is expensive!
Blakaeg, I'm not sure if I will get a DC65. I have a perfectly good Hoover upright that cleans very well. Plus, the DC65 is expensive!
fantomfan
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Filter Queens use cyclonic technology.
The first Rainbow did as well. (The first to use it.) The patent-infringed Lewyt did as well. This is going back to the 1930's and 1940's. What Dyson thought he invented had actually been around for decades. I have no doubt though, my Dc07 takes forever for the pre motor filter to get dirty. I have NEVER had problems with my newer, multi-cyclonic Hoovers (in regards of cyclonic filtration.) I think that Hoover and Electrolux EASILY compete with Dyson's technology today.
The first Rainbow did as well. (The first to use it.) The patent-infringed Lewyt did as well. This is going back to the 1930's and 1940's. What Dyson thought he invented had actually been around for decades. I have no doubt though, my Dc07 takes forever for the pre motor filter to get dirty. I have NEVER had problems with my newer, multi-cyclonic Hoovers (in regards of cyclonic filtration.) I think that Hoover and Electrolux EASILY compete with Dyson's technology today.
sptyks
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Nick: A pack of 6 Kirby HEPA bags cost around $18.00. I can clean my 1000 sq. ft. apartment with wall to wall thick plush carpet for 3 years on that pack of 6 bags.
Now I ask you, Do you consider $18.00 every 3 years or $6.00 a year to be too expensive for you?
Now I ask you, Do you consider $18.00 every 3 years or $6.00 a year to be too expensive for you?
fantomfan
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You can always get a water filtration vac with a separator!
NO smelly bags, NO messy dirt Cup, NO dust clouds, NO added cost of bags or filters (The rainbow has a washable filter.) The only TRUE solution to smelly bags and messy dirt cups, that is NOT a hassle. Maintaining a bagless vacuum would take far more time, in the long run to operate.
NO smelly bags, NO messy dirt Cup, NO dust clouds, NO added cost of bags or filters (The rainbow has a washable filter.) The only TRUE solution to smelly bags and messy dirt cups, that is NOT a hassle. Maintaining a bagless vacuum would take far more time, in the long run to operate.
jaker15
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sptyks,
Didn't Jim Kirby invent the "Domestic Cyclone", which used water separation?
Didn't Jim Kirby invent the "Domestic Cyclone", which used water separation?
The one downside of...
Water filtration is the fact that you would have to rinse out the basin and let it dry completely after EVERY use, or else mold and mildew will build up. That's my theory. This is just like maintaining a carpet cleaning machine.
Water filtration is the fact that you would have to rinse out the basin and let it dry completely after EVERY use, or else mold and mildew will build up. That's my theory. This is just like maintaining a carpet cleaning machine.
fantomfan
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Yes, but it is always ready to use.
No filters or parts that need to dry completely. Just wash it, and it's ready to use again. Water is going inside the pan already, so it doesn't matter if it's a little wet inside. The basin is always stored outside of the vacuum, so mold and mildew shouldn't be a problem. I've used my Rainbow several times where I just change the water halfway through use, just wiping down the outside. All designs have downsides, but certain designs I feel are better than others.
No filters or parts that need to dry completely. Just wash it, and it's ready to use again. Water is going inside the pan already, so it doesn't matter if it's a little wet inside. The basin is always stored outside of the vacuum, so mold and mildew shouldn't be a problem. I've used my Rainbow several times where I just change the water halfway through use, just wiping down the outside. All designs have downsides, but certain designs I feel are better than others.
sptyks
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Jake: I don't think Jim Kirby invented the Domestic Cyclone, But I could be wrong.
kirbyloverdan
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He sure did
James B. Kirby (September 28, 1884 - June 9, 1971) was a Scottish inventor who moved to America and is known mostly for inventing the Kirby vacuum cleaner.
His father was a Great Lakes marine engineer. Kirby grew up in Cleveland's southwest side on Marvin Avenue. He claims that he got his start early by attending electricity and magic classes at the Y.M.C.A. While attending Lincoln High School he worked as a lamplighter where he walked up and down Scranton road and Denison avenue lighting and snuffing out the street lights for which he earned $16.50 a month. He would often also go to downtown Cleveland and "stuff" newspapers for a dollar a night. He invented his first vacuum cleaner, called the Domestic Cyclone, in 1906, which was a hand-powered canister cleaner that used a water filtration system. Jim Kirby lived most of his adult life on his farm in Richfield, Ohio, about 28 miles south of Cleveland.
Dan
James B. Kirby (September 28, 1884 - June 9, 1971) was a Scottish inventor who moved to America and is known mostly for inventing the Kirby vacuum cleaner.
His father was a Great Lakes marine engineer. Kirby grew up in Cleveland's southwest side on Marvin Avenue. He claims that he got his start early by attending electricity and magic classes at the Y.M.C.A. While attending Lincoln High School he worked as a lamplighter where he walked up and down Scranton road and Denison avenue lighting and snuffing out the street lights for which he earned $16.50 a month. He would often also go to downtown Cleveland and "stuff" newspapers for a dollar a night. He invented his first vacuum cleaner, called the Domestic Cyclone, in 1906, which was a hand-powered canister cleaner that used a water filtration system. Jim Kirby lived most of his adult life on his farm in Richfield, Ohio, about 28 miles south of Cleveland.
Dan
suckolux
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Those Scots are some clever folk!
suckolux
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my dc18 shows slight hint of dust after who knows how long, I forget to check it it's so infrequent. My Hoover Wintunnel Air, shows pretty dirty in 2 months.
A pack of 6 Kirby HEPA type bags lasts me a year.Watertrap vacuums are nice-but just don't really like them for all of the time use-You have to fill the water bin and assemble the machine.Use it-disassemble the machine and dump the water bin and wash it out.I don't have odor problems since I don't have pets.To used to the real convenience of bag vacuums-no assembly or disassembly-just get the machine out and go to work.If the bag is filled-replace it.Much faster and easier than the dirt or water bin.And use the NSS "PIG" for those nasty dirty jobs-its HUGE metal fan will eat stuff that will DESTROY a Kirby or some other plastic vac fan.Use the "PIG" to clean out vacuums I get from others for my collection.If things go right takes a YEAR to fill its huge paper liner bag in the cloth bag.
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