General Carpet Cleaning

[SeboU1]

What method do you prefer for general maintenance cleaning? I previously preferred the Kirby shampoo, but it can be time consuming for large rooms. My preferred method is the Sebo duo powder, it seems to remove anything I want removed. I also appreciate that Sebo claims that the Duo powder eliminates dust mites for 6 months, as I am severely allergic. I really hate using an extractor, also why I would not like a Rainbow.

 

[centralsweeper63]

I think dry powder would be good for some cases, others need extraction. If it is used every 3 or 6 months to keep dirt off and keep it fresh that is where dry powder is good. The extraction method in my opinion is good for old or heavily stained carpets. E.G. getting a few more years out of a 20 year old carpet that hasn't been cleaned beyond vacuuming before.

 

[SeboU1]

I think dry powder would be good for some cases, others need extraction. If it is used every 3 or 6 months to keep dirt off and keep it fresh that is where dry powder is good. The extraction method in my opinion is good for old or heavily stained carpets. E.G. getting a few more years out of a 20 year old carpet that hasn't been cleaned beyond vacuuming before.

I agree. The people that usually have never cleaned their carpets believe that “cleaning carpets makes them attract dirt.”

 

[herbicide]

To me the answer is self evident; it is extraction. If the dry powder method was superior, that is what you’d see the professionals use. (The professionals that drive around in vans with specialized equipment)

 

[SeboU1]

To me the answer is self evident; it is extraction. If the dry powder method was superior, that is what you’d see the professionals use. (The professionals that drive around in vans with specialized equipment)

I do prefer the truck mounted extraction, their machine removes much more liquid than a portable unit such as a Rug Doctor.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Each to their own. Plenty of evidence of professionals using a wide range of techniques out there, including microsponges (which are not dry powder, incidentally). It's very easy to demonstrate the superiority of microsponges over other techniques for real-world domestic usage.

I agree. The people that usually have never cleaned their carpets believe that “cleaning carpets makes them attract dirt.”

Resoiling is a known phenomenon with multiple causes. These include wick back to sticky chemical residue that results in faster resoiling. So, there is some truth to their claim, although that's not an excuse to correctly clean a carpet in need.

For service-providing or commercial usage, microsponges with appropriate equipment for larger scale delivery is superior, according to data available in the literature. Some extreme soiling may benefit from pre-clean with steam extraction, prior to microsponge final cleaning for best results (microbiologically and resoiling). In general, water should be avoided on fitted carpets for many reasons covered in the links above, but carpets that are extremely abused and neglected will not particularly suffer if it's used initially, or if a wet stain has already occurred.

Many will disagree with this but I guarantee they will present absolutely no convincing objective evidence to support their position, distinct from that provided above and further correctly conducted fact-checks. That's how you know you can safely discard such subjective sources.

 

[herbicide]

Each to their own. Plenty of evidence of professionals using a wide range of techniques out there, including microsponges (which are not dry powder, incidentally). It's very easy to demonstrate the superiority of microsponges over other techniques for real-world domestic usage.


Resoiling is a known phenomenon with multiple causes. These include wick back to sticky chemical residue that results in faster resoiling. So, there is some truth to their claim, although that's not an excuse to correctly clean a carpet in need.

For service-providing or commercial usage, microsponges with appropriate equipment for larger scale delivery is superior, according to data available in the literature. Some extreme soiling may benefit from pre-clean with steam extraction, prior to microsponge final cleaning for best results (microbiologically and resoiling). In general, water should be avoided on fitted carpets for many reasons covered in the links above, but carpets that are extremely abused and neglected will not particularly suffer if it's used initially, or if a wet stain has already occurred.

Many will disagree with this but I guarantee they will present absolutely no convincing objective evidence to support their position, distinct from that provided above and further correctly conducted fact-checks. That's how you know you can safely discard such subjective sources.

Once again, where is your "objective evidence" for your claims? Links to your own materials is the exact opposite of "objective evidence."

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Once again, where is your "objective evidence" for your claims? Links to your own materials is the exact opposite of "objective evidence."

It's referenced in the material I present. You can't claim I present no objective evidence then auto-dismiss links to my work that references the very thing you ask for that you can then go and fact check. You wilfully and wrongly brand evidence as non-evidence and thereby disregard it unfairly. This is slot machine trolling behaviour. It's compounded by your negative, dismissive, contrarian demeanor that hypocritically provides absolutely no evidence at all, rings hollow, and shows you to be exclusively a source of valueless smear. It's for this reason why you get very little attention from me and those who care about constructive discussion and what's true reading here, going forward. Responding to your hollow hypocrisy generally isn't worth the time and we can make our own minds up without your empty, negative responses. I'm sure you'll claim the same from me, but the difference is the evidence I provide that you knee-jerk dismiss and don't even see that sustains your hypocritical ignorance. We will make our own minds up. Your response to this comment isn't required or desired by the best of us. Run along.

 

[herbicide]

It's referenced in the material I present. You can't claim I present no objective evidence then auto-dismiss links to my work that references the very thing you ask for that you can then go and fact check. You wilfully and wrongly brand evidence as non-evidence and thereby disregard it unfairly. This is slot machine trolling behaviour. It's compounded by your negative, dismissive, contrarian demeanor that hypocritically provides absolutely no evidence at all, rings hollow, and shows you to be exclusively a source of valueless smear. It's for this reason why you get very little attention from me and those who care about constructive discussion and what's true reading here, going forward. Responding to your hollow hypocrisy generally isn't worth the time and we can make our own minds up without your empty, negative responses. I'm sure you'll claim the same from me, but the difference is the evidence I provide that you knee-jerk dismiss and don't even see that sustains your hypocritical ignorance. We will make our own minds up. Your response to this comment isn't required or desired by the best of us. Run along.

I do not dismiss your links, nor the 'evidence' they provide.

What I do dismiss and bring attention to is the FACT that the evidence you provide is no different than much of the other evidence you claim as "vague subjective anecdotes."

Also, quote yourself when trying to convey evidence: "Be very specific." and point to me where this "objective evidence" lies instead of posting a link containing many videos of apparent demonstrations. You have demanded this very thing from me, which I have provided.

 

[royalfan103]

I always like hitting my carpets with my Steamvac using both a wash and rinse cycle. I don't trust dry powder one bit with my vacuums or carpets.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

I always like hitting my carpets with my Steamvac using both a wash and rinse cycle. I don't trust dry powder one bit with my vacuums or carpets.

I'm not interested in dry powder either. Microsponges are where it's at.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Well, the way I see it is if you need to get lots of dirt of you need to wash it, though the extractor must actually do a good jobat getting the water out. However, if you just need to refresh carpets, microsponges, Kirby foam method, etc works well for less effort.

 

[cheesewonton]

I'm not interested in dry powder either. Microsponges are where it's at.

I rent homes, a duplex and some townhouses. That is one of my businesses. Nothing short of a deep steam cleaning cleans carpets adequately for the turnover after a tenant leaves. Microsponges might be ok for little messes but if you are sanitizing a place for a new tenant nothing short of a deep steam cleaning is adequate. I am tearing out carpets from my rentals as I turn them over because carpet is too difficult to maintain for my tenants and after six or seven years of a tenant living in one of my units ( I try very hard to keep my tenants ) the carpet has to be replaced because it is generally too dirty and worn out to waste money on cleaning. At a certain point the carpet is beyond cleaning. The portable vacuums most tenants use ( or maybe don't use ) don't keep my carpets clean. Now I just rip most of the carpet out and replace it with vinyl plank or laminate flooring. If the tenant wants to buy some area rugs they are their problem to clean, not mine.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Good advice. Carpet is nice until it wears out. This is one example I was mentioning earlier about not properly being clean with water or microsponges for a long period of time.

 

[panasonicvac]

Definitely extraction for me, preferably from a truck mount professional. I wouldn't mind using a Kirby to scrub the carpets first and then use hot water extraction but it'd be extra work that I don't think is necessary on my carpets. I never had good experience with Capture before but if I really had to go with the dry method, I'd use either SEBO DUO-P or Lindhaus Pure Power Dry.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Problem with wet extraction, despite its appearance of greatness is that there's plenty of scientific evidence in the literature that I've presented historically here that clearly highlights the known issues that YT videos that the gullible auto-buy don't mention. Wet extraction can clean visible soil well, but isn’t reliably superior for deep allergen removal and adds a moisture-related microbial risk unless drying is very rapid.

 

[herbicide]

Problem with wet extraction, despite its appearance of greatness is that there's plenty of scientific evidence in the literature that I've presented historically here that clearly highlights the known issues that YT videos that the gullible auto-buy don't mention. Wet extraction can clean visible soil well, but isn’t reliably superior for deep allergen removal and adds a moisture-related microbial risk unless drying is very rapid.

What scientific literature? That’s a link to your own posts and videos.

Please give us direct links to the specific scientific “evidence” to review.

 

[blackheart]

Between the options definitely water extraction. The cycle of spraying down fresh solution agitating and extracting I think is going to give the best result overall. I guess I think of it like this, how do we wash other cloth/fabrics? We wash, rinse and dry.
Re-soiling can be an issue which is why it's best to use a non residue formula or to do like the pros do and apply the soap as a prespray and run either water or a rinse solution in your machine.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

What scientific literature? That’s a link to your own posts and videos.

Please give us direct links to the specific scientific “evidence” to review.

I'd like everyone reading to go and look at the link this guy auto-dismissed, read it and the links within. Then re-read what this guy said and you'll understand my criticisms of his historical troll posts. You'll also understand why this guy should never be perceived with any credibility going forward.

 

[herbicide]

I'd like everyone reading to go and look at the link this guy auto-dismissed, read it and the links within. Then re-read what this guy said and you'll understand my criticisms of his historical troll posts. You'll also understand why this guy should never be perceived with any credibility going forward.

You didn’t link those previously. Your previous links was to a playlist of your videos.

Maybe, just maybe, if you’d respond with information versus insults you’d be taken a lot more seriously and a whole lot less combative.

It’s also funny that you are whining about name calling in that very post.

But I digress. I am genuinely interested in learning more about this method. I do question its overall effectiveness in my general use case for an extractor; which is pet urine. The benefit of extractors in in this very specific use case is extractors physically remove the urine by vacuum action. Blotting and toweling can do so as well of course, but not to the degree a decent extractor can, at least in my experience. The extractor can also do a trick called dilution in this use case.

Those links you post I’ll have to digest more, but they seem to be focused on allergen removal. There are other cases like the N.E. mentioned above.