I purchased a Miele S8 Kona today. Thanks to everyone on the site for all their insight in helping me select a vacuum that will meet my needs. My question is whether or not anyone has any experience with the 3M Filtrete G/N replacement bags made for Miele vacuums. On Amazon the comments seem pretty favorable with people noting the absence of the trap door that the manufacturer's filter has to keep dust in when the bag is removed. I suspect careful handling upon bag changing can deal with this missing item. At less than half the price of the Miele bag it seemed worth a look. Does anyone have any experience or comments regarding the 3M filtrete bags for the Miele.
Filtrete Miele G/N Synthetic Bags and Filters
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piano_god
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Congratulations on your purchase! However...
Since your S8 Kona is new, I would avoid all aftermarket bags. Using bags from third-party manufacturers will likely void your warranty.
While I do not have experience with the 3M branded bags (3M name simply licensed to EHCPNA), I have had bad experiences with several EHCPNA branded melt blown polypropylene bags leaking dust into the bag chamber and pre-motor filter.
Personally, since you understand and appreciate the benefits of purchasing a quality, high-end machine, I would avoid the temptation of saving a few dollars by purchasing knock-offs. My fourteen Miele's all use genuine bags exclusively and all remain immaculately clean.
Since your S8 Kona is new, I would avoid all aftermarket bags. Using bags from third-party manufacturers will likely void your warranty.
While I do not have experience with the 3M branded bags (3M name simply licensed to EHCPNA), I have had bad experiences with several EHCPNA branded melt blown polypropylene bags leaking dust into the bag chamber and pre-motor filter.
Personally, since you understand and appreciate the benefits of purchasing a quality, high-end machine, I would avoid the temptation of saving a few dollars by purchasing knock-offs. My fourteen Miele's all use genuine bags exclusively and all remain immaculately clean.
madabouthoovers
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Yes I agree, both my Miele's are used with the genuine bags, and the bags are a part of the filtration design. Using inferior bags will hamper airflow and possibly leak more dust into the motor, shortening its life.
Use cheap bags on a cheap vac, or on an old Kirby or other dirty fan model, but not on an expensive clean air system where what passes through the bag also passes through the motor and its delicate windings. Modern clean fan motors are very highly susceptible to overheating from airflow obstruction as well, and cheap bags may not allow optimum airflow through the motor, which operates at much higher wattages than cleaners of old, or dirty fan motors which have their own cooling fan.
Use cheap bags on a cheap vac, or on an old Kirby or other dirty fan model, but not on an expensive clean air system where what passes through the bag also passes through the motor and its delicate windings. Modern clean fan motors are very highly susceptible to overheating from airflow obstruction as well, and cheap bags may not allow optimum airflow through the motor, which operates at much higher wattages than cleaners of old, or dirty fan motors which have their own cooling fan.
beko1987
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I got my Miele for free
as someone had thrown it out after killing it with aftermarket bags!
The official Miele bags are not bad value really, I can make a box of 5 last a year (even with a baby), and at £10 a box, it's not too expensive.
The aftermarket bags in my Miele were 'cloth' too, the same sort as the official ones, however the bag holder part was awful, and leaked alot of dust into the machine.
as someone had thrown it out after killing it with aftermarket bags!
The official Miele bags are not bad value really, I can make a box of 5 last a year (even with a baby), and at £10 a box, it's not too expensive.
The aftermarket bags in my Miele were 'cloth' too, the same sort as the official ones, however the bag holder part was awful, and leaked alot of dust into the machine.
madabouthoovers
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Beko - the Miele Hyclean bags come in boxes of 4 now - Miele reduced the box size to increase profits. Sign of the times :-(
Don't do it!
Quality control is the problem. Never really know what you are getting with generic. Might be just as good as OEM but may not. Since you just bought the Vacuum, paid good money for it, protect your warranty by buying original bags. Shop internet for deals.
Quality control is the problem. Never really know what you are getting with generic. Might be just as good as OEM but may not. Since you just bought the Vacuum, paid good money for it, protect your warranty by buying original bags. Shop internet for deals.
sebo_fan
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There was a previous thread concerning the filtration aspect of Miele's HyClean bags. See link below.
Sam is right about Miele dust bags in terms of 5 in a box - they're the older Intensive Clean ones. I buy them from time to time. I have not noticed any difference to them compared to the self-sealing ones but they are a better bargain for the 5 compared to 4.
Its like Bosch - they offer 4 bags for their smaller canister vacs and the same machine with the John Lewis label on it plus JL's own bags are available in 5 bags for the same price! Utter madness.
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17269
Sam is right about Miele dust bags in terms of 5 in a box - they're the older Intensive Clean ones. I buy them from time to time. I have not noticed any difference to them compared to the self-sealing ones but they are a better bargain for the 5 compared to 4.
Its like Bosch - they offer 4 bags for their smaller canister vacs and the same machine with the John Lewis label on it plus JL's own bags are available in 5 bags for the same price! Utter madness.
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17269
The filtrete bags look ok but I think you guys are right. Why monkey with lesser bags, especially in the warranty period. In using the Miele bag it is not like one is paying more money for an equal or lesser product; the Miele bags seem to be of the highest quality available. So Miele bags it is!
