EU Reducing Energy on Vacuums Update

[sebo_fan]

Out of interest, I have found a few things leading up to the EU law to reduce vacuum cleaner watts and discovered a few things at www.bureauveritas.com

The following info was released originally on the 1st of November 2013, so it is still quite fresh for all the brands to take up notice.





http://www.bureauveritas.com/wps/wc...&CACHEID=491cf946-1597-48c4-93a4-17a6deff2130

 

[sebo_fan]

Also Hoover in Germany have launched the Athos with an eco-version, the 1000 watt Athos (model number TAT 1000). The more I look at it, the more it reminds me of a love child between a Miele S6 and a Bosch BSGL5.

The new Athos has a long cord and similar 5 litre bag capacity to both the bigger Miele S8, S2 and Bosch BSGL5 series and copies Bosch on fitting 4 castors on the base. I'm not sure if this new lower powered model compared to the 2400 watt and 2500 watt versions has been launched to meet the new European requirements.

 

[rootcyclone]

ohhhh yes!

This is great news! Finally something good the EU has actually done for once!

I hope that Hoover Europe put's an end to those 2300W sensory/dust manager bagless cylinder cleaners. 2300W is tooooooo much!

 

[turbo500]

2300w is nothing compared to this....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Puregadgets...=1384630043&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=3000w+vacyn

 

[hi-loswitch98]

3000 WATTS?????

My lights flicker enough as it is with a 1400w Hoover Jazz when I switch it on! 3000w would probably put them out!

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, you should check what rating your parents' hob has - they're usually around 3000 watts.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

The Hob is built into the cooker & is operated by gas.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Will the USA also limit amps/watts on our vacuums?

The American Electrolux model G from the 1960s run on 535 watts

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I think it's just Europe for now.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Better start buying up as many 2000W+ vacs as possible then folks, as they will die overnight just like the Incandescent light bulbs that got banned by the EU Rules and Regulations. Remember how people all dashed out and bought boxes and boxes of 100W and 150W light bulbs?

Hoover Purepowers will be coming to the end of the road then next year - as I cant see HooverCandy suddenly making them all 1000W again - perhaps they will launch a replacement bagged vac for the Purepower?

BANNED - The old faithful light bulbs by the EU:

 

[sebo_fan]

Well it just doesn't affect Hoover. But both Miele, SEBO and Bosch sell bagged vacuums with high power - Miele will have to change all their S5 and S8 ranges to meet the EU demand - most are 2200watts whereas SEBO's cylinder vacs are 2100 watt. Bosch are 2200watts for the most part, 2000 watts for the bagless ones though the Siemens mode Z6 (similar to the BSGL5) offers 2500 watts.

However, all the main 3 also offer Eco versions of their cylinder vacs apart from SEBO in the UK who offer Eco versions in other countries.

Hi-Lo - I take it then you have a gas oven too? Electric ovens are notoriously high as well.[this post was last edited: 11/16/2013-22:25]

 

[hi-loswitch98]

No the ovens electric, I think, it's 12 years old but I'm not sure.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

What about the Panasonic Bagged Uprights? They're 1900w & 2000w.

 

[ultimatevacman]

A step forward for vacuum cleaners!


 


I've been wondering, will this effect buying and selling used vacuums that use over 1000W?

 

[vintagerepairer]

Heated appliances with high wattages are not energy guzzlers though, as they are thermostatic and switch off as soon as the temperature is reached. An oven, hob, room heater, irons, even the humble kettle (albeit that switches off and stays off). The fact that they are higher in wattage means they get to temperature far more quickly, thus shut off more quickly too, meaning on a side-by-side comparison with a lower wattage, thermostatically controlled equivalent, they could in fact save energy.

This is unlike a light bulb or vacuum cleaner, which draws full power for the duration of the time it is on for. In the case of the light bulb, nothing about them had really changed until recent years; a 100 watt incandescent bulb 40 years ago was the same as one five years back. But as we all know, the vacuum cleaner has been proven to work efficiently on much lower wattages, as history testifies. It is only cheap and poor design, plus customer perception, which led to the installation of high wattage motors. All that needs to happen is for manufacturers to revert to what they were making 25 years ago.

 

[tolivac]

Do these regulations cover wet-dry shop vacuums-or is it residentual ones only?There are Tornado and older NSS"Bronco" machines that had TWO 12A or 15A motors!Each motor blew into its own filter bag.The drum caught the large,heavy debris or liquids.Sometimes these machines were wired to run on 220V.Another wild example is the Tornado vacuums that have two compressed air powered venturi suction units-used like the electric motors-but required a 60CFM 100 PSI compressor to operate--talk about power consumption-that is a 30-60 HP motored compressor!Those Tornado suction heads could delivor up to 200" suction!!Guess you keep hands away!!!Like the electric motors they blew into a large bag.The drum caught the large stuff.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Interesting you mention this, Tolivac. Not withstanding what one might describe as "specialist" vacuum cleaners, cleaners here in the UK which are bought and sold for comemrcial use, such as in none-domestic buildings, house-cleaning companies, and basic cleaning of workshops etc have always utilised a relatively lower motor wattage. The Numatic range of cleaners are by far one of the most prevalent in the sectors I listed, and they typically run at around 1000 - 1100 watts on full power. The cleaners sold by others to compete with them are usually no more powerful either. But they all perform well in the suction stakes. Some of them are incredibly cheap to buy too, proving that a good design isn't always going to add lots of money to the price of the cleaner.

 

[sebo_fan]

The report that I've given as a link clearly describes what kinds of vacuums are to be lowered - the interesting aspect is that they are discounting hand helds, cordless, wet and dry and commercial vacuums - now SEBO and Numatic could so easily hide under the "commercial" tag.

There is also mention of a $7 saving over a five year period of usage though how they get to that figure is mere speculation - it is impossible to collect information unless they have specifically run a vacuum for 1 minute to 24 hours, two days, a week, month, year. $7 is quite low - about £5 saving over a 5 year period IF brands lower their watts. Hardly seems worthwhile...

The other aspect that I am confused about is that whilst the U.S lists a lot of floorcare appliances as amps, I was looking at the Haan USA (Steam cleaners) website yesterday and they list their steam mops with watts - 1500 watts, 1600 watts and so on.

Yes, Hi-Lo, you are right - Panasonic do offer high powered uprights but they are also offering the 1200 watt uprights; I have a feeling that the 1200 watt models may well replace those higher powered bagged uprights soon.

Hoover also offer that Freedom/Dustmanager Eco upright but that is bagless.
Electrolux, Morphy Richards and of course other brands that make bagless uprights like Russell Hobbs etc would also have to change.

 

[vintagerepairer]

savings

It all depends on how it is viewed. I agree that a pounds, shilling, and pence formula is going to hit a nerve with consumers on this one.

However, take a 2400 watt vacuum cleaner, redesign it, and install a 1200 watt motor giving the same air watts as before. Now advertise it as 100% cheaper to run than the previous model. That would turn a few heads.