EU Ratings

[Reflector]

Woodworking Cyclones

...You know they've been selling little miniaturized woodworking cyclones for decades right? Usually they're attached to a Shopvac (Or a higher end "Dust Collection System.")

Here's my Sebo C3.1 attached to one of those said woodworking cyclone units. I used a clean bag yesterday while doing some sanding and none of the powder-like-fines made it through to the bag surface. The bucket was pretty full however...

And yes that's a Dyson flexible crevice tool attached to it.

 

[vintagerepairer]

If the testing was actually done with the brush roller turned off, I think we'd be seeing a test code closer to Z than C, because as we all know, the cleaning head of a machine with a roller brush is not designed to clean by suction only, unlike carpet tools on cylinder cleaners which have channels and pads to increase performance.

 

[sebo_fan]

Here's a laugh for you...

I dont think the tests done by brands are all the same. I found a rather interesting energy sticker online the other day when looking at Vax commercial vacuums. The VCC 08A for example, which is their round tab vac also sold in the U.S under Hoover. Here's the photo....

 

[sebo_fan]

Now the energy label...

I was shocked when I read the energy label and how the vacuum has been tested on various pick up.

 

[dys0nb0y]

i don't understand what's wrong with that.

 

[Reflector]

They used a crevice tool to test the pickup on carpet, not a floor nozzle. The same applies for the hard floor test...

 

[sensotronic]

I don't believe they used a crevice tool. I read about the testing procedure somewhere and the crevice refers to a gap, such as the gap you get in between floorboards etc. The test measures not only the dust removed from the surface, but also how much dust is removed from the gap.

 

[Reflector]

Are there a set of published, defined standards somewhere on the specifics? I'm curious as to how they're defining them.

 

[marcusprit]

If anyone can find information about the EU test procedure that would be very helpful!

 

[turbo500]

A energy, C carpet, B hardfloors?

 

[marcusprit]

Huh?

 

[turbo500]

^I wasn't talking to you .


 


The Vax that Nar posted above. A energy, C carpet, B hardfloors. Of all the ratings we've seen so far, that doesn't seem like the most far fetched by a long shot.

 

[marcusprit]

Yes but tested with a crevice tool :-/

 

[turbo500]

It's not tested with a crevice tool, it's tested on a floor with a crevice. Part of the testing is to see how much dust is pulled out of gaps, for example between floorboards.

 

[marcusprit]

But it says dirt picked up on a Wilton carpet with crevice tool?

 

[turbo500]

No it doesn't. It says "dirt pick up on wilton carpet with crevice". The word "tool" is not found anywhere.


 


Like Roger, I read this as "Dirt picked up on <span style="text-decoration: underline;">A</span> wilton carpet with <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">A</span></span> crevice" ie. a crevice in the floor making the carpet uneven.

 

[marcusprit]

Yes I suppose it could be that. I would like to see exactly what the criteria is for the test procedure. That would be helpful.
I don't know where I can get that info from though.

 

[sebo_fan]

Vacuum cleaner collectors and buyers aren't the same though. Whilst no actual reference to "tool" has been added to the Vax label, the mere mention of the word "crevice" will stand out to buyers who recognise the word. In my opinion Vax haven't been exactly professional in the way the info has been presented, after all you don't go about cleaning hard floor using a crevice, but rather the hard floor tool, or a combi suction tool.

Anyway regulations can be found here - by all means have fun reading them, it's not all that easy to follow in my opinion in some parts, though it is interesting to note what the "test crevice" is and how it is defined.

The regulations also support the decision that brands should offer two types of floor tool such as one for carpets and another for hard floors.

Some brands already do this. Not least SEBO for probably being one of the first uprights for featuring both tools where their Felix is concerned.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2013:192:0024:0034:EN:PDF

 

[sebo_fan]

Or if you can't be bothered...

 

[sebo_fan]

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