Electrolux Silverado deluxe rebuild

[rlewis10]

<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sorry for all the posts </span>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I have a question about replacing the brushes.  Looking at the old brushes, they conform to the shape of the commutator (?).  When I look at the shape of the new brushes, they are not concave, but of a level cut.  Is there a procedure for "breaking them in"?  I've read a post where one used a rheostat to reduce the power to 50%.  If that is suggested, not  a problem since the plug has been replaced, not by me ;-) , with a garish orange 3-prong plug.  Yeah, it bothers me, but that is for a later day.</span>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Any suggestions would be appreciated.   As you know by my previous posts, that is some time in the future.</span>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Thank!</span>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ricky
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[this post was last edited: 1/21/2013-19:57]

 

[aeoliandave]

No need to apologize for the multitude of posts, Ricky; it takes a learning curve for newbies to discover and become comfortable with the nuances of this superior discussion website. We all go through the 'trial by Fire'

But they should all be posted in and added to the original thread to keep the subject contained, readily searchable & easily readable, particularity as they are all about the same vacuum.

Since and as a paid member you have the editing option to delete anything you post (within a 6 hour window), you should copy (move)all the info into your original thread from the extra threads, then delete the extraneous threads.

You see, this discussion site is not run the same as a Twitter or Facebook account, where scattershot comments simply pile up one after the other in a long stream of short, annoying and virtually undecipherable babble dribbling down your visual interface.

Here, we start a subject and follow through on in single thread so that all related information and comment posts remain focused on the original thread heading, as in your case, the Silverado.

Concave carbon brush ends are the norm, they are the result of 'dressing down' brand new carbons to match the contour of the armature they contact. There are techniques for this dressing but I have always just installed new carbons and let the revolution of the running motor do the 'lathing'. Of course this initially creates a great deal of carbon dust in the exhaust stream so I do not change the after-motor filter until the deed is done. Or run in the new brushes without an after filter, outside.

Dave

 

[rlewis10]

thanks!

Thanks for your time, Dave.  I have learned 2 things from you.  Organization and brushes

 


best regards,


 


ricky

 

[rlewis10]

Electrolux Silverado Deluxe canister color




<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hi folks!</span>



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<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Does anyone know the color of the Electrolux Silverado Deluxe canister?  I went to the auto parts store and looked....just confused me.  I would hate to drag the canister in to the store It looks gray with a tad blue in it? 
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<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Thanks!</span>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ricky</span>


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[rlewis10]

Electrolux Silverado Deluxe motor hub nut problems

<a name="start_19318.213829"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hi, I am new and naive to </span><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></a><a name="start_19318.213829"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><strong>Silverado Deluxe</span></a> repairs to here I go:

1. The fan housing is off. Thanks electrolux-dude! However I have a question. How does one remove the nut securing the fan to the hub-armature shaft. It rotates, so what is the best way (doing no harm to the armature or shaft) of securing it so that I can loosen the nut? The nut and parts of the fan housing have some rust, so I need to attend to it. I have new brushes and the commutator looks like a somewhat weathered penny. The "patina" is consistent with no blemishes or blackening.

2. The vacuum is a Silverado Deluxe and the metal body has some mild rusting around various edges. Are there any suggestions concerning repainting and the color? It's gray, but is there a brand of spray paint that is close to the original color?

I have taken apart the vacuum, replaced some control valve tubing and re-glued one of the connection "ports" that had broken off. Placed what i could in the dishwasher and she looks good. Just need to clean the motor.

Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated. When she is done, I will post a picture. One last thing, the suction was fairly good considering all the carbon dust and grime. Looks like 75% of the brushes were used up, so I have new ones.

Thanks!

Ricky Lewis</strong>


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">(repost)</span>


 


 


<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I found the problem:</span>


 


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[rlewis10]

Electrolux Silverado Deluxe Motor fans

 





<span style="font-size: medium; color: #000000;"><strong><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hello folks!  </span></span></strong>










<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #000000;"><strong><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I just purchased the following fans on ebay hoping that one will fit my first stage fan on my Silverado Deluxe (early).  The top fan was sacrificed in order to get the hub nut off.  However, it might have been already shot, being that the hub and nut rotated while holding the fan carefully.</span></span>


 


<span style="font-size: medium; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">To the experts:  I modified the pic from the seller and will post it.  This is all the information I had, but took a chance.  I labeled each fan.  Being the optimist, I think A. is the top (hub in), C. is the "bottom", hub out, D. hmmmm, maybe A or C?, and B.  Have no idea.   I just hope they are 5 " fans for my Silverado.  If my luck runs out, I'll give them away.  If anyone knows what type B is, just let me know and it's your's.</span></span>


 


<span style="font-size: medium; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Here is the seller's description:</span></span>


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<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">"These are four new Electrolux vacuum fans.  The one sitting on the box I cut open to take a picture.  It is for the last metal vacuums and early lexon ones.  The other fans are for the metal vacuums.  Two of them are the same and the third is different"</span></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">ricky</span></span>


 


<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">(reposted)   trying to tidy up  ;-)</span></span>


 


<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">thanks to sbakerde (Seth) for helping me out.</span></span>


 


<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">If anyone needs the fan in pic B, let me know...it's free.</span></span>


 


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[rugsucker]

Silverado

The standard procedure at Elux service department was to run motor at half speed after new armature or brushes by using a test cord with 1 male end and 2 female and the repair machine and another same model running at same time.(I tried to duplicate this cord and found that there is some trick here I don't know.)Reostat or carbon seating stone or other as above can give good results.At motor factories new motors are in groups in a 'tray' making contact with 2 side rails that have increasing voltage as they ride these rails to end of line.If carbons are removed and can be reused they should be marked with a scratch to reinstall in same position.Hope this helps with what should be a nice Elux.--Are you near western NC?I am very close to Boone & Asheville.

 

[collector2]

Hey Jimmy:

The run in cord is very simple one wire from each prong of the male plug goes to one side of each of the two female plugs. The remaining free sides of the felmale plugs are joined together with a third wire. This puts the machines plugged into them in series.

Doug

 

[rlewis10]

Thanks!

Hey Jimmy and Doug,


 


Thanks for the heads-up.  I really appreciate it.  Jimmy, I live in Greenville, NC.   Kinda flat around here  ;-)


 


ricky


 


The schematic looks doable, but I only have 1 machine.  I'll have to chew on that.  I have the old brushes... maybe somehow determine the degree of concavity (is that a word?).  No calculus will be used  ;-)

 

[gvox]

What color is the Electrolux Silverado 1505?

It looks like a bluish grey, maybe with some sort of metallic flake in it, I can't really tell? Someone else asked that question back in 2013, but it was never answered.

I'd love a recommendation on the paint code used to match it. Thanks.