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mikeinct

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Hi everyone,
I'm new to your website, and am glad to be here. I have a few vintage Electrolux vacuums that I've acquired through estate sales, and am fascinated with them. They are such solidly built and really cool looking machines. The problem I come to you for help with involves a Model G. I want to service the motor and bearings, but can't seem to crack the code on how to properly access them. I'd appreciate any advice you can give regarding how to get at them and what to do once I'm there. I've noticed that there's not a lot of information available.
 
There are 2 screws hidden behind the Bumper on the rear end. Warm up the bumpers with a Blow Drier to make them Pliable, and carefully pull back to slide them out of their holes. You also have to remove the Top Trim to disconnect the Switch and undo a top and bottom screw.
 
Electrolux Model G Motor Removal

I'm in. Thank you very much. Some of those screws were pretty well hidden. Do you have any advice on servicing the motor, or can you please direct me to a thread where this was already discussed? I'd love to make this one run better, but if I can't I have another model G I can canibalize from.
Thanks again.
 
Pack the Ball Bearing with a good grease...I like the Lucas Oil Brand called Red-N-Tacky. NAPA carried it. Oil the rear (bronze) sleeve bearing with 3-in-1 MOTOR OIL (blue bottle) as the regular oil will fell up the bearing. Wash the fans in sissy warm water and dry them well.
 
Model G Motor Tuneup

I actually just bought that grease to service a Dormeyer mixer and a Kitchenaid K5SS mixer. It's good stuff. Thanks for the advice. Hey there, CTvacman. I'm along the shore in Clinton. How about you? It's great to know there are kindred spirits out there.
Mike
 
I never used Red-N-Tacky but when it comes to packing ball bearings...you want great adhesion property because as the bearings spin, they tend to throw grease away from their enclosure. After yrs of working with bearings in a gold mill and then later in farm/industrial settings....the best grease types use molybdenum (commonly called 'moly').  I used to buy bearing grease at Case equipment retailers.


 


Kevin
 
<a name="start_34788.375641"></a>Wash the fans in sissy warm water and dry them well.


 


Does sissy warm water come with a Tutu?
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Gotta be one of the better cell phone spell-check blunders.


 


Kevin
 
Mine is the same, Andy. It's like a five yr old child with a supreme imagination. I look down sometimes and can't believe what it's concocted....either can the receiver of my messages...lol. 


 


They're supposed to be 'smart phones' because they learn the finer points from your texting....I find them rather dumb.


 


Kevin


 
 
Model G Motor Servicing

Hey all. I wanted to update you on my progress. I thoroughly cleaned everything as best I could, and greased the one bearing set I was able to find. I'm not clear on the rear bronze sleeve bearing referenced by vacuumlad1650. I just can't seem to find that one. I put it all back together, and the suction is still not very powerful compared to my other Model G. Any ideas on what to pursue now? I may just service that motor, and install it in this chassis, which looks nicer. I really appreciate all the advice given so far. I'll keep you posted on future progress.
 
Yeah, you need to (and should have) tested the armature. You also have to take the fan assembly completely off to service the sintered bushing.


 


You're swimming against the current if the armature isn't 100%. You just need a VOM and a tutorial off Youtube. If the armature tests OK, you also need new brushes. You sure your hose isn't leaking?


 


Kevin


 


 
 
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It might be due to cracked or broken motor mounts. If they're messed up, the thick rubber gasket around the motor won't get a tight seal against the motor housing and the suction will be wimpy.

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Motor Testing

Excellent advice that is much appreciated. Thank you Real1shep and electrolux137. I had no idea what a sintered bushing was, but I do now after Googling it. I still don't know how to lubricate it though. Do I just drop some of the blue 3 in 1 motor oil on it? I also watched a video on how to test the armature, so I'll take care of that next. I believe the motor mounts to be in good shape, but will double check them. I also forgot to mention that the motor is pretty noisy now. I checked the suction without hoses attached, so they are not the problem. Thanks again.
Mike
 
I like to clean the sintered bushing first and relube with the blue 3 in 1 product, yes (I also polish the armature shaft with very fine wet/dry sandpaper if it shows any discoloration...wet the paper with the oil).  Sometimes sintered bushing that old style will have a felt wick that's supposed to be wet with oil as a reserve for the future....don't remember offhand on the G. I go inside a lot of small electric motors.


 


A bit later on from that era, sintered bushing were impregnated with lube and they wanted you to just replace them. A lot of controversy there....dry lube, wet lube...some say you'll ruin the sintered bushing if you clean it and relube (the modern ones). Unless you know exactly what lube they used, your added lube could gall up the works.


 


Not something you worry about with a G motor though......just sintered bushing trivia...lol.


 


Some vac motors will have a foam like seal where the motor sits in....1205 comes to mind. Don't freak over finding OEM foam. The weather seal stuff they sell for doors is an excellent, durable replacement.....find the correct width and sponginess type of the original.


 


Kevin
 
Model G Power Nozzle

The Model G is working really well now thanks to the advice given here. I'm really pleased with its performance. The problem I have now is the power nozzle isn't spinning. The power nozzle itself is not the problem though, because it works on another vacuum. The hose electrical connections check fine as well. I don't seem to have any power coming from the outlet on the side of the Model G. Can someone please guide me in troubleshooting this? I can't find a wiring diagram anywhere, and am unsure about how much voltage I should be getting.
Thanks,
Mike
 
Thanks for your help. I think I may have goofed when reassembling everything after servicing the motor. Can you tell me how the four wires should be hooked up to the switch? I really should take pictures as I disassemble. It would make my life so much easier.
 
To quote an expert:

Tom Gasko wrote
"Here's a simple way to remember one speed canister vacuum wiring.

There are two leads from motor. Two from cord. Two from switch. Two from power nozzle receptacle.

Connect in this order:
One cord to One motor and One receptacle

One cord to one switch

One motor to one receptacle to one switch

In the end, there should be three wire nuts holding the eight leads in the above connections. "

This solved my issue.
 
Thanks for the advice, Garry, but unfortunately I'm still confused. That method doesn't seem to account for the four wires I have meeting at the switch. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think your method would have three wires at the switch. I don't understand why a simple wiring diagram isn't made available by Electrolux. Nothing can be found online. Frustrating.
Thanks,
Mike
 
Wiring a Model G

The Electrolux switch should be wired as follows:

One lead from motor and one from receptacle should be joined together under one gold screw. There are two gold screws, so each should go on through the single motor and single receptacle lead wire. It matters not which one of the two motor and two receptacle leads you use, as long as you only use one each.
 

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