So do I however it has been loud from the day I got it.
Gary
Gary
Electrolux Guardian Ultra & Platinum - Multiple Qs
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kirbysthebest
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P/N
The Black P/N with my Guardian Platinum is quieter, not silent. Still whinny, but I much prefer the whine over the buzz of some other brands.
The Black P/N with my Guardian Platinum is quieter, not silent. Still whinny, but I much prefer the whine over the buzz of some other brands.
electromatik
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That's true Kirbysthebest. None of them are silent... I just don't hear anything that's "loud."
Here's two videos that compares the Platinum to the Sebo D4 Airbelt:
Here's two videos that compares the Platinum to the Sebo D4 Airbelt:
Re: Reply #9
Thanks for pointing out the different iterations of the Lux Guardian Ultra. I wonder, then, if each had a different alphanumeric model designation? In my research I only found the Model C170A that was manufactured from 2009 to 2012. Was there also a C170B, C170C ... or something similar? Correspondingly, I am only aware of the power nozzle Model N137U being the companion to the Ultra. Were there others, or was the N137U revamped according to the differences you mentioned?
Lux Guardian Ultra owners, please post photos of each of the 3 tank and power nozzle iterations mentioned in reply #9 and let us know if yours has different model designations than C170A for the tank and N137U for the power nozzle.
I am also interested in knowing what years Home Care™ Industries made bags for Aerus™/Electrolux®. According to the HCI website it has been making vacuum accessories since 1959.
Thanks for pointing out the different iterations of the Lux Guardian Ultra. I wonder, then, if each had a different alphanumeric model designation? In my research I only found the Model C170A that was manufactured from 2009 to 2012. Was there also a C170B, C170C ... or something similar? Correspondingly, I am only aware of the power nozzle Model N137U being the companion to the Ultra. Were there others, or was the N137U revamped according to the differences you mentioned?
Lux Guardian Ultra owners, please post photos of each of the 3 tank and power nozzle iterations mentioned in reply #9 and let us know if yours has different model designations than C170A for the tank and N137U for the power nozzle.
I am also interested in knowing what years Home Care™ Industries made bags for Aerus™/Electrolux®. According to the HCI website it has been making vacuum accessories since 1959.
williamr1248
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Electrolux Guardian Platinum
I have to add that when I saw the new machine, although the machine was very powerful and quiet, the power nozzle was just as loud as my Electrolux that is 13 years old. From Aerus's claim, I was expecting a much lower tone. I could not tell any difference and it did not seem to be in line with how quiet the machine itself was in operation.
The noise and tone of the power nozzle and the fact their is no lock upright position is really the only complaint I have with my Electrolux. The power nozzle seems out of date for the new machine. I actually prefer the smaller size of the power nozzle on my grandmother's old "L' Electrolux. I also never liked the wider nozzle with the L shape, but that is just a personel choice.
I find myself using the flip over tool many times just to avoid the high pitched tone of my power nozzle as the Electrolux is used only upstairs. To each their own.
I have to add that when I saw the new machine, although the machine was very powerful and quiet, the power nozzle was just as loud as my Electrolux that is 13 years old. From Aerus's claim, I was expecting a much lower tone. I could not tell any difference and it did not seem to be in line with how quiet the machine itself was in operation.
The noise and tone of the power nozzle and the fact their is no lock upright position is really the only complaint I have with my Electrolux. The power nozzle seems out of date for the new machine. I actually prefer the smaller size of the power nozzle on my grandmother's old "L' Electrolux. I also never liked the wider nozzle with the L shape, but that is just a personel choice.
I find myself using the flip over tool many times just to avoid the high pitched tone of my power nozzle as the Electrolux is used only upstairs. To each their own.
Re: Reply #33
There have been two power nozzles for the Lux Guardian Platinum. The original, Model N137W, which is black with stainless steel top trim and the current, Model N137Z, black without the stainless steel. I wonder which you have?
As I understand it, the N137W was quickly replaced partially due to the noise factor. I'm wondering, also, if the N137Z has a non-skid wheel similar to the non-skid soles of some shoes?
I believe the L-shaped power nozzles were introduced in 1983 or 1984 (Model PN-5) during the run of the Model 1505/Silverado and the gray Model 1453/Deluxe Special Model; so they've been in production longer than the rectangular rectangular-shaped PN-1s through PN-4Cs!
There have been two power nozzles for the Lux Guardian Platinum. The original, Model N137W, which is black with stainless steel top trim and the current, Model N137Z, black without the stainless steel. I wonder which you have?
As I understand it, the N137W was quickly replaced partially due to the noise factor. I'm wondering, also, if the N137Z has a non-skid wheel similar to the non-skid soles of some shoes?
I believe the L-shaped power nozzles were introduced in 1983 or 1984 (Model PN-5) during the run of the Model 1505/Silverado and the gray Model 1453/Deluxe Special Model; so they've been in production longer than the rectangular rectangular-shaped PN-1s through PN-4Cs!
williamr1248
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Electrolux Guardian Ultra
Fred,
Thanks for the information.
Several of my friends on the forum had the first power nozzle with the stainless top (which I thought was handsome). The one I saw was all black.
The new Aerus bags should eliminate the bag leaking problem on the new machines too.
Fred,
Thanks for the information.
Several of my friends on the forum had the first power nozzle with the stainless top (which I thought was handsome). The one I saw was all black.
The new Aerus bags should eliminate the bag leaking problem on the new machines too.
electromatik
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Ronni, the new Aerus PN's do not have rubber coated wheels (my biggest complaint about it). Still got the plastic ones.
I hate to belabor the point about the noise level of the PN. I'm not trying to call anyone a liar either. I am aperson who is interested in demonstrated factual data and truth. I just don't see any real evidence the PN is significantly louder than others... The video above refutes that pretty well. One fact that's not well known yet is the Platinum is actually the quietest full-size vacuum on the market (at least at it's introduction). It's slightly quieter than the Miele, and as the video above shows, it's quitter than the Sebo also. That is verifiable with decibel reader and cannot be disputed. Not that either of those are "loud" or obsolete, they are not. The fact that it is quieter than any previous Lux makes the noise of the power nozzle more noticeable. That might help explain some of it.
Here is a video that demonstrate beyond the shadow of doubt the new one is quieter than the ones of old. It's a Renny and a DJ. Compare to the newest PN in the video above.
I hate to belabor the point about the noise level of the PN. I'm not trying to call anyone a liar either. I am aperson who is interested in demonstrated factual data and truth. I just don't see any real evidence the PN is significantly louder than others... The video above refutes that pretty well. One fact that's not well known yet is the Platinum is actually the quietest full-size vacuum on the market (at least at it's introduction). It's slightly quieter than the Miele, and as the video above shows, it's quitter than the Sebo also. That is verifiable with decibel reader and cannot be disputed. Not that either of those are "loud" or obsolete, they are not. The fact that it is quieter than any previous Lux makes the noise of the power nozzle more noticeable. That might help explain some of it.
Here is a video that demonstrate beyond the shadow of doubt the new one is quieter than the ones of old. It's a Renny and a DJ. Compare to the newest PN in the video above.
williamr1248
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Electrolux Guardian Platinum
Great video and thanks for posting .
Those are not the same machines I have compared.
I have a Lux 2100 and Epic 9000 and when we saw the new Aerus Platinum, they sounded all about the same to me . Same high pitched tone. It was much louder than the Platinum itself.
While we were looking at it, the handle fell over 2 times. Just a matter of different views but the power nozzle seemed very out of date compared to some of the newer designed on the market today. It did not have a quick release. The user had to either up end the power nozzle to remove or bend down to the floor.
I did not like the fact that you had to use a adapter for some of the small tools with hose. That seems out of place for such a high end new machine. Like I stated the vacuum itself was very powerful and quite.
I do not like the bulky wands that came with my Epic 9000, compared the the lightweight aluminum wands that came with my Electrolux 2100.
I use the 2100 and the Epic 9000 is packed away. It does have a longer power cord which is nice.
I was just expecting more than what was observed.
Thanks again for posting you video.
Great video and thanks for posting .
Those are not the same machines I have compared.
I have a Lux 2100 and Epic 9000 and when we saw the new Aerus Platinum, they sounded all about the same to me . Same high pitched tone. It was much louder than the Platinum itself.
While we were looking at it, the handle fell over 2 times. Just a matter of different views but the power nozzle seemed very out of date compared to some of the newer designed on the market today. It did not have a quick release. The user had to either up end the power nozzle to remove or bend down to the floor.
I did not like the fact that you had to use a adapter for some of the small tools with hose. That seems out of place for such a high end new machine. Like I stated the vacuum itself was very powerful and quite.
I do not like the bulky wands that came with my Epic 9000, compared the the lightweight aluminum wands that came with my Electrolux 2100.
I use the 2100 and the Epic 9000 is packed away. It does have a longer power cord which is nice.
I was just expecting more than what was observed.
Thanks again for posting you video.
Maybe it is just me but when I watch those videos, the power nozzle on the Guardian sounds louder and has more of a whine than the older PNs. It is exactly what my Guardian PN sounds like.
Gary
Gary
mark40511
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I just LOVE these style of vacuums (by that I mean the shape of the Aerus/Lux vacuums) and the way the bag fits them. They are great vacuums but the ONE thing I hate is the two tools I use the most (the hard floor tool and the dusting brush) don't fit on the vacuum. That's the only thing I would change that I can think of because that's what the quick disconnects are for, so you can stop, change, clean area, re-attach and move on......but you can't do that with this vacuum unless you carry the attachments while you vacuum. Lucikly, on my epic 6500, I'm able to sort of lay them on top of the vacuum as I vacuum because there's a couple of small areas they sit on, but sometimes they fall off.
You're welcome for the information, Rob. I read your first post too quickly, though, as I thought you mentioned owning a LGP. Anyway, I agree that the N137W was more attractive with the stainless steel trim, but I'm sure the company needed to make the N137Z easily distinguishable from it (for their benefit as well as customers') which necessitated omitting the trim.
Thanks for the feedback, Christopher. In rereading reply #1 about the black marks I discovered that the writer was talking about the bumpers marking his white woodwork--not the wheels. I would think that Aerus could correct that issue by using the same or similar rubber material used in the non-skid shoes I mentioned. Thanks for posting the vids.
Re: Reply #23 - Dave, you have some sound ideas for improving the next Legacy that are reasonable and would undoubtedly make it a better quality design. I encourage you to send them to Aerus.
All: I can imagine that Aerus is at the drawing board working on some of the revisions for the LGP mentioned in this forum. It will be interesting to see how many of them are incorporated into its future models. As such, I'd rather wait before getting serious about purchasing one.
Thanks for the feedback, Christopher. In rereading reply #1 about the black marks I discovered that the writer was talking about the bumpers marking his white woodwork--not the wheels. I would think that Aerus could correct that issue by using the same or similar rubber material used in the non-skid shoes I mentioned. Thanks for posting the vids.
Re: Reply #23 - Dave, you have some sound ideas for improving the next Legacy that are reasonable and would undoubtedly make it a better quality design. I encourage you to send them to Aerus.
All: I can imagine that Aerus is at the drawing board working on some of the revisions for the LGP mentioned in this forum. It will be interesting to see how many of them are incorporated into its future models. As such, I'd rather wait before getting serious about purchasing one.
Power Nozzles for C153D, C170A, and C177A
I located some photos of the power nozzles discussed on this thread--with the addition of N173T for the Lux Legacy. I don't think there was a N137X or N137Y. If that's correct then the LGU had two companion power nozzles (unless the LLs and LGUs were paired with the same models of power nozzles). All I have to go on are Vacuumland threads and eBay listings that mention tank models and power nozzle models together. Yes, I realize that some tanks and power nozzles may have been independently-matched rather than factory-matched which leaves a margin for error.
I located some photos of the power nozzles discussed on this thread--with the addition of N173T for the Lux Legacy. I don't think there was a N137X or N137Y. If that's correct then the LGU had two companion power nozzles (unless the LLs and LGUs were paired with the same models of power nozzles). All I have to go on are Vacuumland threads and eBay listings that mention tank models and power nozzle models together. Yes, I realize that some tanks and power nozzles may have been independently-matched rather than factory-matched which leaves a margin for error.
