Electrolux Guardian Ultra & Platinum - Multiple Qs

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My Electrolux Ultralux LX's bag door closes without a bag installed, but it has a switch inside the bag door that prevents it from turning on if there's no bag. Instead, a light on the top of the door illuminates when the unit is switched on. 

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Guardian Platinum Tools

Jay,

I added the Tristar dusting brush (black version of original Guardian/Renne) and the Tristar furniture tool to my Lux Platinum. The crevice tool you have will work with the Tristar tool caddy. Just order the caddy and the other two from Tristar/Lux Bristol Customer Service and you will not have things falling off or use the Mickey Mouse adapter for the combo brush. It is hard to find the black caddy as most of the new ones are like gun metal gray but I did finally get the right color if that matters. It took an Ebay transaction to do what Bristol could not seem to get right. The caddy that comes with the Platinum will not work for the Tristar dust brush or upholstery tool as the inside diameters are a different size.

Brian
 
I will confirm what the others are saying about the Lux Guardian Ultra... it DID come with a black cord. Mine has one :) The last years of the Ultra and the white body Legacy both came with black cords. Presumably, Aerus was shifting over production bit by bit for the black Legacy and the Platinum, both of which used black cords. They also may have switched due to complaints about the light gray cord getting black scuff marks on it.


 


Fyi, Ultra vacuums with black cords also have the updated Power Nozzle--it has dozens of tiny circular ventilation holes instead of the older style line vents.


 


Also, I know that people like to ditch the Ultra, but it really was a big step up from the Legacy with which it shared a general shape. The Ultra came with an unprecedented 20 year motor warranty; even the new Platinum doesn't come with that. The Ultra's motor is stronger than the motor in the other current C-style machines (Legacy and Classic). And the Ultra is a fully-sealed system, versus the Legacy and Classic which are not. And though they look the same, the Ultra and the Legacy/Classic don't share the same body mold. The Legacy/Classic have always been (and are still) textured. The Ultra was untextured. To my knowledge, the Ultra is the first and only C-style machine to have an untextured body since the early years of the 1205.


 


IMHO, Aerus should have gifted the sealed HEPA system to the Legacy after the demise of the Ultra/rise of the Platinum. They wasted money designing a fully-sealed system for the C-style canisters, and now it's gone. There's no reason to not give the Legacy the old internals from the Ultra. The HEPA filter will fit under the Legacy's tool storage as-is, and the Ultra's sealed internals would fit, too. Idk why, in this day and age, Aerus would want their mid-range vac to not have a sealed HEPA setup, especially when one is readily available.


 


I do like the Ultra though. I prefer it to the Platinum because it looks so much like a classic Electrolux. The Platinum, a byproduct of mutli-company collaboration, bears little resemblance to any old Electrolux models. I wish the Platinum would have been at least a little more retro. But oh well. If you need a state-of-the-art vacuum and prefer to remain loyal to the Electrolux/Aerus brand, the Platinum is the right choice. If you are nostalgic for the Electrolux brand and don't need superfluous bells and whistles, the Ultra is much more true to the company's origins while offering more than sufficient HEPA and carbon filtering.


 


...and because I always put a plug in for C-style machines in case Aerus representatives are here, I have to say, I really hope that Aerus never discontinues the C-style line of vacuums. They can make all the Platinum machines they want, but they really need to keep a rectangular, protruding hose connection, C-style machine in production. Without it, there's no proof that Aerus is the original Electrolux.
 
Jayelux it sounds as though you have damaged your machine... Aerus tools do not "fall off" the wands. They have a click lock feature and you must press the release button to release the tools. The new power nozzle doesn't "scream" either. It was noise reduced and is now one of the quieter ones. The adapter exists because people loved the combo dusting/upholstery tool. All combo tools usually use some sort of adapter. I'd rather have that more advanced tool than the other ones that are basic. I don't find the handle/wands to be bulky but if you want Lux International's power nozzle and ancient short woven hose I think you can get it. It'll take you a lot longer to clean though because their PN is very small by comparison. I'd rather have Aerus' L shaped slim PN anyday.

I went to Aerus' website and could find no sign of the new bags...
 
The synthetic bags are on the website but it takes some searching to find them. Go to www.aerusvacuums.com, then click on the Shop tab, then Buy Now and then Guardian Platinum Cleaner Supplies.

I just got the new bags but I have not tried them yet as I am still waiting to see if the bag full indicator light is going to turn on. The bag is almost packed full.

I do not find the power nozzle to be any more quiet than the previous power nozzles.

Gary
 
Thank you countryguy

I did see them finally. That sweetens the pot for me when I get ready to buy one. I'm sorry you don't find the power nozzle quieter... That's very odd since they specifically claim it is. I've heard it in videos and in the store and it didn't seem anywhere near as loud to me. Perhaps it has to do with the size of rooms and acoustics and echo? That's weird.
 
I have owned the 6500 and 9000 models with the same type of power nozzle to compare to which is why I don't find the Platinum's nozzle any more quiet. In fact I also mentioned it to the dealer that I felt it sounded like it was squealing...more so on the previous type of carpeting that I had in the house.

Gary
 
Hmmmm, that does sound very wrong countryguy. When I visited the Aerus store near me he had a Guardian Ultra that he turned on to demonstrate the Platinum's power nozzle improvement. The Ultra nozzle was clearly louder. This was demonstrated on a square sample of average thickness carpet. I do hope there is nothing wrong.
 
P/N

The Black P/N with my Guardian Platinum is quieter, not silent. Still whinny, but I much prefer the whine over the buzz of some other brands.
 
Re: Reply #9

Thanks for pointing out the different iterations of the Lux Guardian Ultra. I wonder, then, if each had a different alphanumeric model designation? In my research I only found the Model C170A that was manufactured from 2009 to 2012. Was there also a C170B, C170C ... or something similar? Correspondingly, I am only aware of the power nozzle Model N137U being the companion to the Ultra. Were there others, or was the N137U revamped according to the differences you mentioned?

Lux Guardian Ultra owners, please post photos of each of the 3 tank and power nozzle iterations mentioned in reply #9 and let us know if yours has different model designations than C170A for the tank and N137U for the power nozzle.

I am also interested in knowing what years Home Care™ Industries made bags for Aerus™/Electrolux®. According to the HCI website it has been making vacuum accessories since 1959.
 
Electrolux Guardian Platinum

I have to add that when I saw the new machine, although the machine was very powerful and quiet, the power nozzle was just as loud as my Electrolux that is 13 years old. From Aerus's claim, I was expecting a much lower tone. I could not tell any difference and it did not seem to be in line with how quiet the machine itself was in operation.
The noise and tone of the power nozzle and the fact their is no lock upright position is really the only complaint I have with my Electrolux. The power nozzle seems out of date for the new machine. I actually prefer the smaller size of the power nozzle on my grandmother's old "L' Electrolux. I also never liked the wider nozzle with the L shape, but that is just a personel choice.
I find myself using the flip over tool many times just to avoid the high pitched tone of my power nozzle as the Electrolux is used only upstairs. To each their own.
 
Re: Reply #33

There have been two power nozzles for the Lux Guardian Platinum. The original, Model N137W, which is black with stainless steel top trim and the current, Model N137Z, black without the stainless steel. I wonder which you have?

As I understand it, the N137W was quickly replaced partially due to the noise factor. I'm wondering, also, if the N137Z has a non-skid wheel similar to the non-skid soles of some shoes?

I believe the L-shaped power nozzles were introduced in 1983 or 1984 (Model PN-5) during the run of the Model 1505/Silverado and the gray Model 1453/Deluxe Special Model; so they've been in production longer than the rectangular rectangular-shaped PN-1s through PN-4Cs!
 
Electrolux Guardian Ultra

Fred,
Thanks for the information.
Several of my friends on the forum had the first power nozzle with the stainless top (which I thought was handsome). The one I saw was all black.
The new Aerus bags should eliminate the bag leaking problem on the new machines too.
 
Ronni, the new Aerus PN's do not have rubber coated wheels (my biggest complaint about it). Still got the plastic ones.

I hate to belabor the point about the noise level of the PN. I'm not trying to call anyone a liar either. I am aperson who is interested in demonstrated factual data and truth. I just don't see any real evidence the PN is significantly louder than others... The video above refutes that pretty well. One fact that's not well known yet is the Platinum is actually the quietest full-size vacuum on the market (at least at it's introduction). It's slightly quieter than the Miele, and as the video above shows, it's quitter than the Sebo also. That is verifiable with decibel reader and cannot be disputed. Not that either of those are "loud" or obsolete, they are not. The fact that it is quieter than any previous Lux makes the noise of the power nozzle more noticeable. That might help explain some of it.

Here is a video that demonstrate beyond the shadow of doubt the new one is quieter than the ones of old. It's a Renny and a DJ. Compare to the newest PN in the video above.
 
Electrolux Guardian Platinum

Great video and thanks for posting .
Those are not the same machines I have compared.
I have a Lux 2100 and Epic 9000 and when we saw the new Aerus Platinum, they sounded all about the same to me . Same high pitched tone. It was much louder than the Platinum itself.
While we were looking at it, the handle fell over 2 times. Just a matter of different views but the power nozzle seemed very out of date compared to some of the newer designed on the market today. It did not have a quick release. The user had to either up end the power nozzle to remove or bend down to the floor.
I did not like the fact that you had to use a adapter for some of the small tools with hose. That seems out of place for such a high end new machine. Like I stated the vacuum itself was very powerful and quite.
I do not like the bulky wands that came with my Epic 9000, compared the the lightweight aluminum wands that came with my Electrolux 2100.
I use the 2100 and the Epic 9000 is packed away. It does have a longer power cord which is nice.
I was just expecting more than what was observed.
Thanks again for posting you video.
 

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