Dyson Radial Root Cyclone Doesn't Work Very Well!

[dys0nb0y]

my mum doesn't pay for anything for me i pay for all by myself and my own card can i save my money and i don't spend it.

 

[alexhoovers94]

well if your mother doesn't pay, then what, do you work? at 13/14?

 

[marcusprit]

Good for you Josh. Don't get into debt though.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Hang on you are like, what, 13? And you have a bank card?! I had a savings account at your age, that was it!

 

[dys0nb0y]

i clean a refurbished vacuums.you can make a lot of money actually doing it.i've been doing it for the last 5 years

 

[alexhoovers94]

Ahhh okay...

 

[marcusprit]

We have a little entrepreneur here

 

[alexhoovers94]

In want of a better word, Marcus...

 

[parwaz786]

Very nice! Josh you remind me of the school teenager who made LOADS AND LOADS of money selling sweets at school he got suspended. For it though! Stupid headteacher

 

[marcusprit]

Now now Alex

 

[alexhoovers94]

 

[alexhoovers94]

Now lets try that again with a BAGGED vacuum with EVEN MORE icing sugar!

 

[henrydreyfuss]

You hit the nail on the head, Dysonman

This is an issue that all current dyson ball uprights have, including the new Cinetic Big Ball. When dumping the bin, a small amount of dust cross-contaminates the clean air path (the tube in the center of the bin), which will then get pulled through the motor and onto the exhaust filters. That could be part of the reason why the Big Ball has 2 HEPA exhaust filters. The cordless models and canister Dysons do NOT have the same issue, because the suction from the motor into the cyclone pack doesn't start at the bottom of the bin where it's dumped, but instead the top, and the dust can't easily enter the clean air path. This is something I thought would have been addressed right after the DC41, but Dyson has released several similar models since, and the issue persists.

I got a very used DC41 a few months ago, and while the pre-motor filter was very clean, the exhaust filter was quite dirty, and with more than just carbon dust. Haven't seen that on a Dyson in a while!

The current Dyson uprights are better than ever in a lot of ways, but over the course of their lifetime, the new Dyson ball uprights will let a lot more dirt into the motor than most sealed vacuums. I hope it doesn't lead to premature motor issues.

 

[marcusprit]

As I've said before I use I very long bag that I empty the bin into and this reduces the dust blowing back up the tube. I get a little dust on the bottom of the tube but I wipe that away. Anyway there's a 5 year warranty so I'm not concerned. I'm very impressed with it

 

[alexhoovers94]

I am very impressed with mine but I think the way the cyclone is set up (suction coming from the bottom)is a flawed design and Dyson should quickly change it!

 

[marcusprit]

I think they did it that way for maximum airflow. But there's always improvements that can be made

 

[henrydreyfuss]

They definitely designed it for maximum airflow (which is excellent on new Dysons), and also to divide the work needed from the cyclones evenly. Having the suction go directly from the ball into the bin cuts back on extra ducting, saving weight and manufacturing costs, small as they may be.

 

[marcusprit]

Yes indeed.

 

[alexhoovers94]

well, originally it didn't matter whether the suction came from the top, as it was Dual Cyclone, so there was only one large cyclone the air was directed to.

 

[henrydreyfuss]

The DC07 and DC08 had extremely elaborate ducting for the root cyclones to try to spread the workload out evenly. On the DC14, the design was simplified tremendously, and was immediately stolen by other manufacturers once the multi-cyclonic patents expired.

Here's the DC08 cyclone manifold in all its rooted glory.[this post was last edited: 2/4/2015-15:07]