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Well they weren't when the DART was released - which was the first model to be launched - I know as I bought the DART first before the Felix came onto the market.

When a vacuum cleaner like SEBO release the original model as a commercial upright before the fancy colours of the domestic model, you have to question where their priorities are - and again they have stuck to their roots.

Also, why have Miele not entered the commercial upright market, or for that matter any of the other major brands who produce bagged uprights? I think the last one that sold in the UK similar to SEBO was the Electrolux Professional Z1920A, a model that I quite liked, but high street franchises soon dropped the prices on them due to a lack of demand - a real pity because they look and sound like a good commercial upright - see Roger's video of Kim Woodburn on the Gadget Show.

 
The Sebo Felix is a really natty little vac - I watched Roger (ibaisaic) do a demo of one on youtube and was smitten. I had already seen the Felix in other posts on VL and was intrigued by its clever design, and its ability to completely convert to a handheld vac, and its ability to be able to switch the brushroll on and off. Its a very good modular vac and very versatile, and also has variable power. Whilst I didn't like the design at first, the more I see them and see how well designed and practical they are the more they grow on me. I would go so far as to recommend one to my parents as they are quite light too, although not ultra light due to the high quality. The one downside with the Felix though is it has no automatic height adjust, and if it had this, it would make it just perfect.


The Felix is a very understated vac and really it should get more acclaim than it does, and be marketed more at the domestic market. Currys stopped selling them unfortunately and I think that this was down to poor salesmanship with lack of desire from the sales team to promote the Felix's attributes.


At the end of the day, Felix models always sell well on Ebay so I cant see why they were so unpopular at Currys to merit discontinuation.


I will get a Felix one day - but am prepared to wait till the right moment comes to buy one - as I did with my X4.
 
Also Steve, - SEBO's cylinder vacs do not have commercial counterparts, thus were created purely for the domestic market, a change of idea that SEBO only played around with when they brought out their larger C series cylinder vacuum. To my knowledge there was never a C series commercial cylinder vacuum until later this year SEBO brought out the D Professional for the commercial market. Things are thus changing for the SEBO company, but it can take a long time.

The Felix has been a good seller for them, but SEBO are playing to the heartstrings that others have done, swapping glittery paint finishes for fancy outer exhaust covers.

But, even when considering model per model, say a Miele S6 compared to the SEBO K1 series, you can clearly tell that even if the SEBO vacuum is made for the domestic model, they don't adorn their machines with bits of silvery metal that will fade in time or fancy added LED lights like the Miele S8, let alone apply glossy and fancy lights aplenty. They also don't have flimsy doors or places that are likely to break. Again, the emphasis is commercial based - more durable plastics, bigger detailing on practical elements compared to Miele, maybe one or two LED lights at the most.

Not all products are the same - I mean, I can't seem to find any Vorwerks at John Lewis, let alone any other high street franchise and I would dearly like to try a Lindhaus before purchase - but again you're limited by those brands who choose not to sell at high street outlets.

I think you do have to make compromises - like when you go into Currys etc and find that the filter you bought for your Dyson has sold out and thus have to wait until stocks come in - or buy online.
 
Steve, have a look - taken from a pdf link from Hoover's facebook page link to a cleaning magazine where Hoover have promoted their GreenRay eco vacuums. I flicked through the online magazine link and found this:

It appears to be an advert for SEBO's commercial uprights.

Never let it be said that SEBO don't do adverts.

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Excellent - Sebo really do need to promote themselves more, as we live in such an advert crazy world now. Dyson is taking so much business away from other decent companies and saturating the market with Bagless this and bagless that. Its about time the other manufacturers drew their swords and came out to fight him. Bags are better, we know that, and they have progressed a long way since the single layer H1 Junior bags that Dyson says get clogged up.


Bagged vacs of modern times need much better publicity, playing on the negatives of owning a bagless cleaner, like the mess of cleaning filters, clouds of dust when emptying them, much bigger dust containing capacity so you aren't forever emptying them after every room etc etc etc.


 


Sebo have to make their domestic products much more easily available, so people can just go into Argos, or the likes and buy one all in the same day - or even open special SEBO shops in the big towns and cities.


Its all about marketing - if Dyson did it, so can Sebo and other companies. People are like sheep, they generally swallow what they are told on the TV and in Ads - and they follow the flock, in that if next door bought a Sebo, then they must have one too.
 
That it very true, because the only place I can get a SEBO is on eBay, for me atm.
if you type in "DYSON" in ebay, you would get over 2 thousand results. do the same for SEBO and you wont get even half as much results as Dyson. Thats how popular Dyson are.

Also 1/3 of UK homes have a Dyson, so they are on every street in Britain
 
Well it goes both ways - the more "popular" Dysons are, the more you have to question why there are so many on EBay and why people want to sell them off? On account that you get more spares for Dyson than Henry speaks volumes, never mind the amount of SEBOs you get second hand from EBay.

If you're looking for a brand new SEBO, I'd give Sebo UK a phone and buy from them directly.[this post was last edited: 11/19/2013-02:47]
 
And who uses Euronics centres these days anyway?

Well the nearest one to me does VERY well- always at least a couple of people in every time I'm in there. If I go over there on the day their delivery comes from CIH there are always 20-30 machines waiting to go into their warehouse. I know the owner from my previous job so he always does me a good deal as well :)
Seamus
 
about a 1/3 of UK homes have a Dyson

Well, Tayyab, that wouldn't mean every street has one. Every household isn't the same I'm afraid. It would also depend from house to house, my next door neighbour don't have a Dyson, so that isn't everyone :P
 
Yes I know not everybody has a Dyson lol but it's a fact I decided to share
One of my neighbours have a Henry, the other has a Dyson
 

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