Dual Sanitronic disassembly Question ?

[lesinutah]

Hey

Maybe but the shaft to Armiture is still top of Armiture. It doesn't matter top or bottom of Armiture don't hit it period. If bearing plate needs to come off the Area you have holes where you take fan off you put in screwdriver in different locations of hole tapping different locations of bearing plate it will pop it off

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Maybe but the shaft to Armiture is still top of Armiture. It doesn't matter top or bottom of Armiture don't hit it period. If bearing plate needs to come off the Area you have holes where you take fan off you put in screwdriver in different locations of hole tapping different locations of bearing plate it will pop it off

 

[jpsbgt]

I finally figured it out ! I would first say go slowly ! To extract the armature I sprayed a bit of PB Blaster around the bearing plate, and a small amount around rear bearing. I then screwed the belt shaft back onto the armature shaft, using it to hold onto as I gently tapped around the housing, the armature popped right out. Looking at all the wires coming out of the field I believe I will leave it in place. What do you guys suggest as far as replacing or repacking bearings ? The vacuum ran good before I disassembled it, bearings where a bit noisy though...thanks everyone...jack

 

[texaskirbyguy]

Replace the bearings.
Small cost that you may likely not spend again on that machine.
They have worn over the years and once the grease hardens and becomes ineffective, they wear more.
Get the Kirby bearings and not the low speed skate board bearings often seen for cheap.
Glad you got it apart, I know you would get it. Kudos to you for not rushing into it with a sledgehammer. )

 

[lesinutah]

If you can get bearing behind bearing plate I'd repack. Spray bearings with a degreaser if there is any built up on metal use steel wood. I'd clean off Armiture with a cleaner that doesn't hurt electrical. If you have a commuter stone clean copper and metal plate pieces on Armiture. Remove field housing use non electrical cleaner.
Dysonman was right on hammer I misread sorry
Les

 

[jpsbgt]

Thanks guys ! Pretty excited ! Can you suggest where to buy parts for D50, set up a bench grinder today to start polishing the aluminum parts, this is getting addicting ?

 

[texaskirbyguy]

Kirbyneeds on ebay is the only place off hand with reasonably-priced bearings for these older machines (the ones with the shoulders). Get all you need from him at once and 'request an invoice' so you get a combined shipping deal.
BTW, what model are you working on now?

 

[texaskirbyguy]

Duh, D50!
Hate that I cannot edit posts...

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Bench grinder buy harbor freight for about 50 and harbor freight has buffing wax less than 10 bucks.
When you start on 505 508 vacuum let me know I have a few parts. I have 510 done 505 508 and 510 I'm working on and might have some parts.
Les

 

[jpsbgt]

Where do you get the LED headlight bulb ?

 

[lesinutah]

Bulb

Hi

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I can't get link to copy. I have an ebay seller sending me 2 bulbs to test. I told seller if it works on kirby I'll let him know. He sells for $2 a bulb.
I've tried about 4 bulbs and this is most durable so far. I'm trying to find cheaper just ba15d double bayonet dual polarity is hard to find. Some led bulbs are like gel you twist in and bulb comes apart.

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[texaskirbyguy]

Jack, your D50 uses older style bearings, Kirby # 1160 for front, 1155 for the rear. These fit models from 505 to S7. Kirbyneeds had them for about $12 each.

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

If doing bearings get new bearing plate with bearings built in. I think it runs 19 plus shipping so 22.

 

[bikerray]

I get my bearings from Accurate Bearings

The front bearing is an 87500 IK which cost $7
The rear bearing is an 87007 ND which cost $13.50

Those bearings fit 505 thru D80

 

[lesinutah]

Bikeray

Thanks for info. How long is shipping.
Les

 

[jpsbgt]

Appreciate that information on bearings. I’m going to start polishing today and interested if you guys can explain how to remove the Kirby lens from the hood ? I drilled out the revits and removed the rubber trim, but don’t feel comfortable polishing with the end in place...thanks

 

[texaskirbyguy]

Personally I would just change the front bearing and not the whole plate if the plate is undamaged. I tend to like to keep more vintage parts on my machines, as well as save cash. The bearing comes out of that plate easily, as well as installed. Some properly sized sockets, a rubber mallet and only light taps gets it out and in.

Your headlight may need some sanding.
As for the logo, do NOT try to snap it out or it will break. Don't ask how I know that...
What I did on my mom's was to CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY trim the edges off of the bottom pegs with a sharp razor blade, a TINY BIT AT A TIME until light finger pressure popped it out. Only a tiny bit at a time in case you missed that part. )
It is a hard brittle plastic and the silkscreen is at the bottom. Do not use cleaners on it, just a damp cloth to clean it. Do not try to remove it with dirty or oily fingers. Now you can, very carefully, polish the TOP with some plastic polish if it is scratched. I did that to my mom's and it came out very good.

 

[jpsbgt]

Thanks again I might just put some tape over the lens when I polish the hood...jack

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Like quadruple tape it be safe maybe tape off inch around so you don't come close to it. You can sand polish and buff area by light by hand. I would only get wet rag and wipe off the lens don't want to discolor it.
It does get addicting restoring vacuums. I started off with a classic N omega and a tradition. I took all 3 apart and I cleaned everything up they looked real nice. The 3 vacuums all are different and I thought were all the same. Needless to say in the end I ruined all 3. I didn't assemble correct I messed up and that is why tradition and classic I dislike.
I can take apart and put back together every model from 505 to legend 2. I can do g series just not as versed as other vacuums.
I can take a d80 full tear down pack bearings clean motor housing basically tune up and clean a d80 in hour or less. I'm pretty well versed with 505 to 512. I'm just not an expert on the toggle switch or handle spring assembly. I have had or still have 505 508 2 510s 560 562 sanitronic 7 d50 d80 classic omega heritage heritage 2 classic 2 classic 3 heritage 2/legend 2 g3 g4 g6 2 sentrias diamond ultimate the other g series deluxe.
I've downsized sold and cut collection to 7 vacuums.
I can only say one vacuum at a time. Keep magnetic tray to hold screws and buy bosch bits for screwdriver.
Long story short I've learned a lot and had lots of help graining great friends. I'm not the most knowledgeable but I'm getting better. Kirby has a CD with repair manuals from 505 to d80.
I also have a parts diagram and parts number for 505 to sentria which come in handy.
Well I'm typed out.
Les