Do Dyson's Really Rip Up Carpet? Or Is It Just The Underwhelming Quality Carpets These Days?

[vacuumman206]

that's unbelievable!

Well my first question after reading that article is what kind of idiot designs long shag carpet with the notion a vacuum with a brushroll shouldn't be used? Chances are it just wasn't very good carpet. Dyson brushrolls are cheap junk with quality and construction almost like that of mini vacuums I've seen, just on a larger scale. They are wimpy and the dyson relies solely on its suction which is supposed to never decrease.

 

[parwaz786]

My Dysons never clog, I never had a vacuum clog in my life apart from an electrolux, even if I try to clog them up, and Dyson's never lose suction on me, I use them with care, they clean well, 10 years ago, approx 75% of my area in Birmingham where I live, used to be VAX owners and some Numatic, now about 65% of the owners changed to Dyson! I recommended my eighbour a Dyson, they got a DC33 multi floor which replaced a Henry and a vax 3 in 1, they didnt like the performance of the old vacuums, they LOVE Dyson, their neighbour has a DC19 origin, their neighbour is my uncle who has a numatic nrv200, I think, its the henry machine with a big base, and its called numatic instead of Henry and it has a push button, and also he has a DC04 Absolute, that works very hard, its abused, but runs like new, and my uncle's neighbour is my Dad's friend, he has a White DC14 All floors, and a White DC15 Allergy along with an original black Swivel Sweeper, My friend had to replace a vacuum every few months, I recommended a dyson, he liked the DC25 for it's ball, so his uncle bought him a DC40 multi floor, and they love it! he used to wash the filters every month, now he dont care and his brother threw it once in anger (Dont ask why, but its a sad story) and its ;like new! and finally, a good friend at schoo, he hated his Henry from 2005-2008ish tat it cant pick up pet hair etc, so he went to comet or Currys, Can't remember, and his cousin got a DC37, and he got a DC41 Animal, and he LOVEs hpow it picks up everything in one pass, even hair!

My neighbour's Dyson get's full every 3 Days, and once they borrowed my Mum's DC04 and they vacuumed only the upstairs with it, when they returned it, the Dyson had picked up nearly half a bin! I think I needed to replace the belt and wash the filters too.

Our house is 5 bedrooms, large family, 1 baby, 1 toddler, and 2 kids, and one teenager which is me. The Dyson never breaks down, its like using a Henry in a school, the Dyson never breaks down, When I use my DC14, the dirt it picks up it satisfying, the DC07 gets up LOADS of Dust and Dirt,, the DC04 lifts the carpet REALLY well, the DC25 grooms the carpet amazingly, the DC08 has amazing suction, the DC01 is a nice back up machine, it does groom well, but not the best

 

[alexhoovers94]

DC01 and DC03

The DC01 and DC03 are probably the most misleading performing Dyson cleaners ever made, because they have that clear bin to make you think it is doing this absolutely wonderful job when in reality it really is not. The brushroll is very underwhelming and the suction is not very strong on eaither of these models. I am sure the way those two models work is just by sweeping up surface litter and the minimal suction takes it away. The surface litter you see flying around in the bin on the DC01 and DC03 is what grabs the consumers eye for the machine being a really good or one of the best performers, which for comapered to todays Dysons and it's competitors they are good but the old ones had nothing on the Hoovers of the time, which was the Brand Dyson took over from as best sellers.

Here is a video I made and you can see the difference in agitation between the Hoover Junior from the 70's and the Dyson DC01 from the 90's. A Hoover from the 90's - Turbopower 1 or 2 would of perfromed way better than the DC01.

 

[parwaz786]

The DC03 looks ice, has a nice design, but the performance is terrible, mine was also fragile, I got rid of it in approx June 2007

 

[madaboutsebo]

Agree with AlexHoover94

Have to agree with AlexHoover94, having been an avid Dyson Fan, still I'm in terms of seeing what new technology they come out with but not with their vacuum cleaners anymore. I've owned and used all the uprights from the DC01 to the DC15, and the DC05 and DC16 (excluding the DC14), and I think out of them the DC07 had the strongest suction and the DC15 had the best agitation! I've tested the DC40 & DC41 thought they where ok, the DC40 only has one row of brushes each side on the brush bar why!?

I've also witness recently a test between a Dyson DC41 and a SEBO Felix in a well known Electrical Store, where the sale man went over a patch of carpet with the DC41 and then with the SEBO Felix using the demo dirt collector on the top but it had a used half full bag in the machine as well, as he showed me it. Both didn't have the brush bars running (not sure why never asked!) and the SEBO pulled out extra dirt the Dyson left behind! Bare in mind he didn't put anything on the carpet just vacuum it with both machines, The Dyson DC41 is Dyson new op of the range and the SEBO Felix has been out on the market for a while. The sale man side the Dyson rep doesn't like him anymore as he recommends SEBO and that the public are all 'brain' washed into thinking bagless&#92Dyson are better! Yes he used to own and think Dyson where the best. It was interesting to see and hear the sales man comments.

I've had a SEBO Felix for 5 years now 3 of which I still had a Dyson DC07 and DC15 and the SEBO Felix deep cleaned and groomed the carpets better! You could physically see the carpet pile was lifted and groomed by the Felix. I have sold all my Dyson's for now! I don't miss emptying the bin or washing the filters! Each to there own but for me and for now I will not own another Dyson until they improve a few things one being the brush bar.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Despite me putting down the DC01 it is my faveourite Dyson and I absolutely love them as (unfortunately) I grew up with one. I wish mum had a Turbopower (she did but before I was born) when I was growing up, but I am thankful I have the Turbo's I have now.
I have never really jelled with Sebo's they are too much of a commercial machine for my liking.
My nana has the DC41 it is a great vac, much better than any of the monstrositys they have released in the past. I still wouldn't buy one though, as they are way to expensive. And they are bagless, I am all for the bags, plus I prefere older vacs... Don't we all?

 

[sebo_fan]

Parwaz - where is your evidence regarding the percentages of vacuum cleaner ownership in Birmingham?? Just because you may ask sales people what they've sold or what people buy doesn't make the brands you mention to be the highest.

Or the best.

And, to put you in the picture, obviously anyone who has a cylinder vacuum cleaner like the Numatic Henry WITHOUT a turbo brush is obviously going to adore a Dyson that has a brush roll. I don't think its the brand here but rather a completely different vacuum cleaner altogether. Also for the fact that all of the select models you have mentioned that people had previously, they all love Dyson - well it is a bagless brand after all.

Alex - maybe if your mum got a Sebo, she'd like it rather than you. I suspect that before long one day you may get a bagged vacuum if she gets fed up having to empty dust all the time. Having to deal with so much dust is a nightmare for her. Fair enough if you feel the Sebo is too commercial for you = I always felt Hoover's Turbomaster was inspired by the Sebo X1 Automatic. In what way do you feel the Sebo vacs are too commercial for you?

 

[alexhoovers94]

I just think the way they are designed, they cut out a lot of down time as is crutial in the commercial vacuum business, such as life time belts, very easy access brushroll, quick release handle and cord all that I miss on a “normal“ upright, it is not a bad thing that they are easy to maintain but I just think they look and fit better in a commercial setting, rather than a home.
By the way, how come you think Hoover got the idea for the Turbomaster from the X1, they are nothing alike. :s

 

[alexhoovers94]

Oh, also sebofan...

She has the Sebo X4 now, her DC01 went ages ago the DC01 I have now is mine that I got off eBay for nastalga.

 

[sebo_fan]

It took me a few years to see the resemblence - my best friend's mum had a Turbomaster for many years and he loved using it - so when he clapped eyes on my old parent's X1 Automatic, he thought it was a new improved version of the Turbomaster! It is easy to see where Hoover got their inspiration from.

Sebo were the first company to patent the hose and hoister but from a visual point of view without the headlight, the Turbomaster does look a little like the SEBO X1 and it wouldn't be the first time Hoover have been inspired by Sebo - their much later (and current) "Insight" is a more direct copy of the X1/G2 series with the manual dial adjuster.

The X1 Automatic was actually developed for the domestic market *and the X1.1/X4/X5 thereafter. Certainly from the point of view taking into account the bigger BS36 and 46 series (and their other one), those are purpose built commercial vacuums compared to the X1. As a Hoover fan first and foremost, I was sceptical for many years with my parents X1A. They gave me their old Oreck and Vax canister as well as a very old Hoover Junior - I wasn't taken with the Sebo at first as I loved the classic uprights like the Senior, Junior and even the Powerplus - but I think as time went by and after selling my Powerplus and TP3 upright, I was more or less ready to give the Sebo a second chance - and I was totally hooked after that.

For me, life after the TP3 was softened with the arrival of the Sebo X1Automatic. I much prefer it to the more modern looking current series.

 

[philip0603]

My carpets are all 80% wool & 20% polyester 'axminster weave' and the oldest is 30 years old and now starting to show signs of wear. The most expensive carpet I have is 15 years old and is a worsted wool job and cost over £90.00 a square meter. It is showing no signs of wear and never has really fluffed up even when new.

If I had a shag type carpet I would never use a cleaner with a brush bar as the pile is too long and will wrap itself around the bar and tend to get pulled. Mind you, I detest cyclonic vacuums, finding them heavy and a nightmare to empty and clean out.

 

[parwaz786]

Sebo_fan:- These are not accurate, its just that i have seem so many people upgrading to Dysons, its LOADS of people in the area, I used to see people vacuming cars with no dysons, now what I see is mainly DC14's, DC04's, DC19's and DC33's and 2 people I know have DC40 and DC41's, these are not accurate percentages though, they are just estimated guesses

 

[alexhoovers94]

Sebofan

I would choose a Turbopower 2/3 over a Sebo every single time, sorry but I love them. Don't get me wrong Sebo's are great they are just not my thing.
I also understand what you mean about the Turbomaster and the X1 now, the body styling is very alike without the hose on.

 

[sebo_fan]

There are many reasons to why people buy Dysons - but mainly for the fact that most are changing up from bagged vacuums because they don't want to keep buying bags. I can understand that, that's people's choices. But, to say that your Dyson has destroyed a carpet and then in the same breath condone the model for great performance, it's not exactly cost effective, is it?

In that regard, are the cylinder models with the air driven turbo brush kinder?

 

[hoovermad]

I've had no issues with my DC24,I like that's it's lightweight and compact and it makes a nice job of grooming my carpets,it's a great little machine

Neil

 

[vintagerepairer]

Carpets

Back when I was a boy, a carpet was an investment. You had to live with it for tens of years whether you were thoroughly sick of it or not. They cost a fortune and were built to last a lifetime.

Now, we have the choice of buying good or bad quality - one gets what one pays. But for me it gladdens the heart to think that I could pay a mere percentage of a high quality carpet for one which I can change so easily, should I desire to.

As for bagless cleaners, I can see clearly the attraction of no dust bag. What I don't fully understand is that people who have gone bagless are probably the very same people who I see in the supermarkets, buying design bin liners for their fashionable kitchen bins.

 

[garlee]

Have got numerous Hoover Juniors of different models and ages and the best one for carpet care and cleaning is the old 1334 series of Hoover Junior especially the ones with the alloy hoods .I know a few people who have Dysons and have asked me to have a look at them as the performance wasnt too good on them and all the filters were clogged up and the general build quality is so poor with the plastic .After repairing them was not impressed with the brushroll action on the carpet and why would anyone want to be covered in dust just to empty the dustbin ! give me a bagged hoover anytime

 

[kloveland]

I pulled a Dyson DC 17

out of the trash this weekend. Cleaned it up and started vacuuming my dining area which has Berber carpet. It caught a snag in between the threshold and the door and completely ripped up a section of the Berber carpet. I'm going to replace the carpet eventually anyway still irritating! The brush roll and motor are pretty powerful in these.

 

[vacuumdevil]

There's 3 issues with new carpets and really any old carpet with Dyson vacuum cleaners .

1. Brush rollers on Dyson vacuum cleaners are very sharp and can rip and melt it to carpet fiber.
2. There's no height adjustment on most Dyson's this ensures air flow and brushes are set properly.
3. Dyson's don't clean particular well in leave embedded dirt in the carpet which can destroy it.

Those are the reasons why carpet manufacturers don't recommend a lot of vacuums.

Link to CRI who writes vacuums for carpet manufacturers.

http://www.carpet-rug.org/certified-vacuums.html

 

[rdwdcp]

Dyson

Dyson Vacuum Cleaners in my house don't seem to rip up my carpet they work brilliantly and pick up lots of dust especially my 15 year old DC07 that still works really well.

Ryan