sebo_fan
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Yes and similarly when said cheap appliance breaks down and owner tries to get parts in, it is difficult.
Disgusted with Chinese manufactured products
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director12
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My old laundry appliances were GE. While made in America, the parts were from China. I now have an Electrolux and Bosch washer and dryer. After my GE units died, I decided to never buy GE ever again.
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My solution: buy VERY OLD GE stuff.
~Ben
My solution: buy VERY OLD GE stuff.
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I would, but my father doesn't approve of owning vintage appliances. I mean, my 32-year old brother has vintage appliances in his ranch house up in Levitown, PA.
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William:
It's too bad your father feels the way he does. Vintage appliances are not only fun and cool, they're CHEAP.
I recently bagged a General Electric range from 1972, the Model J 370. It's a 30-inch range, only one model away from the top-of-the-line. It has a lighted control panel, P*7 self-cleaning, an automatically timed oven and an automatically timed convenience outlet. There is a Sensi-Temp burner that is thermostatically controlled like an electric skillet; you dial a temperature and the burner will not exceed it. That same burner also has Coil Select; you can set the burner so that only 4 inches, or six inches or eight inches of its surface will heat, maximizing efficiency with smaller pieces of cookware. There is also a griddle that fits on the Sensi-Temp burner; you need never worry about burning pancakes, bacon and the like. Many of these features are not available on today's ranges, at any price.
Cost? Fifty dollars, and every single thing on it works. It is all porcelain outside; there is NOTHING painted on its exterior.
My Maytag 806 pair (1968) was all of $75. The KitchenAid KDS-55 dishwasher (1966) was free. My Amana RR-4D microwave (1974) was $6. My Singer Touch-Tronic 2001 sewing machine (1978) was $130, in the top-of-the-iine Flip 'n Sew cabinet.
Yes, I've put some money, time and expertise into repairing certain things on a couple of appliances, but nothing like what it would cost to buy new stuff. And nothing new comes close to the quality I have.
So, while I respect your dad's preference, I also hope that one day he'll be in someone's house and see vintage appliances doing their job - safely, effectively and economically. Maybe the light bulb will go on over his head!
P.S.: The photo below is my "new" range. Now I ask you - does that LOOK like an old, broken-down piece of crap?
It's too bad your father feels the way he does. Vintage appliances are not only fun and cool, they're CHEAP.
I recently bagged a General Electric range from 1972, the Model J 370. It's a 30-inch range, only one model away from the top-of-the-line. It has a lighted control panel, P*7 self-cleaning, an automatically timed oven and an automatically timed convenience outlet. There is a Sensi-Temp burner that is thermostatically controlled like an electric skillet; you dial a temperature and the burner will not exceed it. That same burner also has Coil Select; you can set the burner so that only 4 inches, or six inches or eight inches of its surface will heat, maximizing efficiency with smaller pieces of cookware. There is also a griddle that fits on the Sensi-Temp burner; you need never worry about burning pancakes, bacon and the like. Many of these features are not available on today's ranges, at any price.
Cost? Fifty dollars, and every single thing on it works. It is all porcelain outside; there is NOTHING painted on its exterior.
My Maytag 806 pair (1968) was all of $75. The KitchenAid KDS-55 dishwasher (1966) was free. My Amana RR-4D microwave (1974) was $6. My Singer Touch-Tronic 2001 sewing machine (1978) was $130, in the top-of-the-iine Flip 'n Sew cabinet.
Yes, I've put some money, time and expertise into repairing certain things on a couple of appliances, but nothing like what it would cost to buy new stuff. And nothing new comes close to the quality I have.
So, while I respect your dad's preference, I also hope that one day he'll be in someone's house and see vintage appliances doing their job - safely, effectively and economically. Maybe the light bulb will go on over his head!
P.S.: The photo below is my "new" range. Now I ask you - does that LOOK like an old, broken-down piece of crap?
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Let me think...
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
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You Think That's Something:
Yep, it looks pretty much like new outside. But with a good cleaning, so can many ranges.
Here's the real kicker - the inside of a forty-one-year-old oven. See how she gleams! That's old-time self-cleaning for you.
Yep, it looks pretty much like new outside. But with a good cleaning, so can many ranges.
Here's the real kicker - the inside of a forty-one-year-old oven. See how she gleams! That's old-time self-cleaning for you.
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Damn, jealous!
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David:
Don't be jealous - that range represents a four-year search across the entire Midwest. At that, I was not the one who found it - a friend in Wausau, WI (polkanut69 here) turned it up on his local Craiglist. Had it not been for him, I would STILL be searching!
What was absolutely wonderful was that another friend was traveling across the Midwest to pick up a Frigidaire washer and dryer for himself, and he brought the range to me - no shipping hassles at all, and the gentlest care it could possibly have had along the way.
Here's another shot of it - this time, the cooktop, showing the controls more closely. You can also see the Sensi-Temp sensor in the middle of the large burner at the right front. The small knob at far right is the Coil Select switch, and the burner control immediately to the left of the Coil Select is the Sensi-Temp control:
Don't be jealous - that range represents a four-year search across the entire Midwest. At that, I was not the one who found it - a friend in Wausau, WI (polkanut69 here) turned it up on his local Craiglist. Had it not been for him, I would STILL be searching!
What was absolutely wonderful was that another friend was traveling across the Midwest to pick up a Frigidaire washer and dryer for himself, and he brought the range to me - no shipping hassles at all, and the gentlest care it could possibly have had along the way.
Here's another shot of it - this time, the cooktop, showing the controls more closely. You can also see the Sensi-Temp sensor in the middle of the large burner at the right front. The small knob at far right is the Coil Select switch, and the burner control immediately to the left of the Coil Select is the Sensi-Temp control:
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Close-Up:
And here's a really close shot of the Sensi-Temp controls:
And here's a really close shot of the Sensi-Temp controls:
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Wow, that's a purdy stove! Hard to believe it's age. I have acquired a Kitchenaid dishwasher from the mid 80's, still a Hobart product. Old Kenmore is pulled out, still waiting for the KA to go in. The couple I bought it from was rehabbing their kitchen and said it worked fine, just wanted all new. Hope it works ok!
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Yeah, lets hope it works.
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I agree that the vacuums and other appliances from China are junk. The average lifespan of China made vacuums is less than 5 years. I have 1950's Hoover Connies that are still working great. Also the Kirby is good if you don't mind the clumsiness of them. My Kirby is very tough. One can vacuum up nails with it and it will be fine! Other things to avoid from China are pet foods or treats. All pet toys and toys for children. They use lead paint. Also don't buy human food either from China it is poison.
I agree that the vacuums and other appliances from China are junk. The average lifespan of China made vacuums is less than 5 years. I have 1950's Hoover Connies that are still working great. Also the Kirby is good if you don't mind the clumsiness of them. My Kirby is very tough. One can vacuum up nails with it and it will be fine! Other things to avoid from China are pet foods or treats. All pet toys and toys for children. They use lead paint. Also don't buy human food either from China it is poison.
Vacuum nails with your Kirby--how many fans have you gone through?Just wondering.I use the Shop Vac for nails.Save my Kirby for less demanding cleaning jobs that don't involve nails.
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I really don't mind where the appliance is made - as long as it holds up and I've had a few Chinese made vacuums that have lasted for more than 5 years - of all the appliances I have had that have been made Chinese made that don't last have been hand mixers. They burn out too early if, like me you're a seasonal baker.
However, the biggest surprise is my Chinese made hand stick blender - it is made by a budget company and it is still working after being bought in 2002!
I think it comes down to personal experience.
I wouldn't dream of ever using a Kirby to vacuum up nails or hard grit. They're made to last but they're not made to be abused. I'm pretty sure the average American home that doesn't have loose nails embedded in all of the carpet!
However, the biggest surprise is my Chinese made hand stick blender - it is made by a budget company and it is still working after being bought in 2002!
I think it comes down to personal experience.
I wouldn't dream of ever using a Kirby to vacuum up nails or hard grit. They're made to last but they're not made to be abused. I'm pretty sure the average American home that doesn't have loose nails embedded in all of the carpet!
I hope folks don't have nails in their carpets-wouldn't want to walk around in there barefoot-you would need steel sole shoes!
I'd buy an old Sunbeam Mixmaster "Burst of Power" hand mixer even if it reads "Assembled in Mexico" on it. My parents once had a model 3-76 Mixmaster Heavy Duty in almond that dated from circa 1980.
~Ben
~Ben
If you people support quality in products and oppose downgrading, here's an article you might want to print.
http://www.kevinpezzi.com/blog/made-in-China_junk.php
http://www.kevinpezzi.com/blog/made-in-China_junk.php
sebo_fan
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Ha. The poster likes Bosch products. Good luck trying to convince yourself that a Bosch cylinder vac is better than Miele. IMHO they're flimsy, difficult to find bags for and everything fits on friction fit. Not as durable as Miele and not as well made.
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Miele
I have always been a big fan of Miele products. Some years ago my partner bought me a Miele upright for Xmas, can't remember the model number but it was yellow in colour. I tried it out on Xmas day and it sounded like a tractor. On Boxing Day we took it back to currys and it was exchanged for a new one. I had that for a few months and the bag full indicator kept on falling out every time I changed the bag, underneath the 2 plastic side suction channels kept falling out.
I found it very heavy, the hose very short. At this moment in time I am using a vintage Hoover senior. Never lets me down, cheap for bags and belts.
Paul
I have always been a big fan of Miele products. Some years ago my partner bought me a Miele upright for Xmas, can't remember the model number but it was yellow in colour. I tried it out on Xmas day and it sounded like a tractor. On Boxing Day we took it back to currys and it was exchanged for a new one. I had that for a few months and the bag full indicator kept on falling out every time I changed the bag, underneath the 2 plastic side suction channels kept falling out.
I found it very heavy, the hose very short. At this moment in time I am using a vintage Hoover senior. Never lets me down, cheap for bags and belts.
Paul
