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I have heard the Eureka SmartVacs are farely good, and in my opinion, any Hoover Windtunnel bagged Temp/Windtunnel is a GREAT vacuum. They have amazing suction for the price. Great vacuum
 
Hoover Tempo

I'm sure it is a great vacuum, but IMHO 12 amps is just waaaay too much current for a vacuum to draw. I know it's the new industry standard, but with the way things are going as far as being more environmentally friendly, maybe it should be reduced to 7 or 8 amps - and even that is alot. Now that the "cash for clunkers" program is ending for cars, perhaps the goverment should offer a "bagless buyback program" and offer an incentive on your old "gas guzzler" vacuum towards the purchase of a more energy-efficient model like say a Kirby or an Oreck.
 
Watch your thrift stores

I saw a Eureka Boss with VGII last Saturday at the DAV by the base. This is one of our favorite thrift stores as it is so close to the base, many of the guy/gals moving out have to dump their excess articles before they can move.

We have found bran new sheet sets for 99 cents. Picture frames for $1. The Eureka was $26.99, but looked and sounded good. I waivered a few times, but passed it by, but I am sure if you watch your area on a regular basis you could get some finds. You can even ask some of the counter people to give you a call when they get certain items in. Most of the time they will do favors for regulars.
 
12 Amp motors

Really loud and designed to burn up fairly quickly. It's really sad that in 80 years we go from the pleasant sound of a Hoover 575 getting up to speed vs. the garbage we have nowadays.
 
The 12A motors came about when vac makers went to clean air systems and on board hoses and attachments-the big motor was need to pick up the debris from the floor thru that long funky onboard hose before getting to the bag.And how come I see MORE clogged 12A clean air vacuums than 7a or lower direct air ones?The direct ones have a simpler-shorter air path to the bag.however I have encountered a few clogged Orecks at yard sales-any I have bought were clogged-the bag fill tube was PACKED with stuff-lets see-paper wads,paper clips,long hair,and coins.I think that user need a Parking lot sweeper rather than a vacuum cleaner.also the yard sale Orecks had busted fan cases.Ended up trading them to vac Hospital for parts.Oreck should shorten the airpath.-or make the fill tube larger bore.And make the cleaner with a sheet steel fancase and cast fan-wouldn't make the machine that much heavier-but more durable-yes us Vacuumland users are more careful-but most other folks treat their vacuums like parking lot vacuums.
I found my Kirbys,Royals,Koblentz and Sanitaires don't clog.Yes I like the sound of those older motors and vacuums better.And whats with newer commercial Orecks-their motors sound like a tortured banshee!
I don't understand this area-not many thrift stores here except "swap" type places-and these have mostly large appliances and furniture.The pawn shops here have mostly beat up computers and beat up plastivacs.
 
Oreck improvements

"Oreck should shorten the airpath. - or make the fill tube larger bore." They do in their XL 21/Platinum line. I don't know about a steel fancase, but perhaps a steel lined fancase would make them more durable, while minimizing weight increase. Also, dirt tubes had a greater propensity to get clogged in the older models where they used pins and rivets. I've come to find many preowned Orecks have not been used but ABUSED. It's not designed to pick up gravel and coins, no dirty air cleaner is. I've seen Kirby (500 series) machines with busted fancases because someone tried to do that. All in all, I do think it's a pretty good design, and now that the patent has expired, other vac manufacturers are jumping on the bandwagon. IMHO, 4 amps is plenty of power.
 
I saw a Kirby 500 series machine that was used in an attempt to clean a swimming pool bottom-that poor machine was reduced to a wreck It was at the old Forestville Md Kirby center.The gravel from the pool bottom tore up the fan and fancase-also it was a wonder the user wasn't electrocuted-there was still some water in the pool too.And yes an the bag fill tubes-completely SMOOTH bore-no protruding screws,pins,rivits to catch debris-ie the long hair.
And yes even some "direct" air parking lot vacuums can be damaged when they are used to pick up bricks or other large rocklike items.Even those big steel fans can break.Usually those machines can cope with trash,cans,bottles-but not BRICKS.
 
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