kirbyman89
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GET A LIFE!!!!!
CUSTOMERS LOVE THE BAGLESS KIRBY CONVERSION
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beerad
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Bagless vacuums
one word..."DISCUSTING!
one word..."DISCUSTING!
Sad that the units are built in China-why not build them in the US or the country of consumption?Provides jobs and may save YOU the manufacturer some money--Now its expenive to ship back and forth to China.Some manufacturers are changing from having things built in China due to higher fuel cost.And they might jack up thier labor costs.However it might be interesting to get one of these things and try it and add it to the Kirby collection.For me to give an evaluation of the device-have to try it.and it is a Kirby attachment-a contriversal one-but an attachment.Might be good to top up Kirby collections.
beerad
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Filter Queens
I love the FilterQueen...thay are working out great and they are easy and simple to empty. That is what I like about them.
I love the FilterQueen...thay are working out great and they are easy and simple to empty. That is what I like about them.
I am not a big FQ fan-but have a few in my collection-the neat thing about dumping them is no filter to clean-you replace the cone "filter" on each dumping.FQ is easier than other "bagless" vacuums out there.
Oh yes-just to mention the Kirby "Filtrete" bags are made in China-but how long is this going to last?The Filtrete material is made in US but shipped to China to be made into the Vacuum bags-thats two trips.Since fuel costs have been rising-the bag maker may reconsider?I have been reading that Chinese factories may be wanting to raise their labor costs-If that happens will more manufacturing return to the points of use?
Dear GOD,
I hope so !
I hope so !
Even if manufacturing does come home, American companies are so smitten with designs and pseudo-technology from overseas that they're no longer interesteed in making things like they used to. This shows up in the vacuum industry as we have companies like Riccar and Simplicity who seem hell bent on emulating the designs of Miele with their canisters.
After having owned a few Mieles, the thrill is gone. They have expensive bags and filters, and offer 2 electric brush attachments: 1 that is too aggressive and one that is not effective enough. I wish I had something that would be more respectful of my carpets and rugs like an older Lux power nozzle or a Hoover with a steel brushroll just like in the good old days.
After having owned a few Mieles, the thrill is gone. They have expensive bags and filters, and offer 2 electric brush attachments: 1 that is too aggressive and one that is not effective enough. I wish I had something that would be more respectful of my carpets and rugs like an older Lux power nozzle or a Hoover with a steel brushroll just like in the good old days.
I own a Keeler Bagless Conversion...
First of all, I have some knowledge of vacuums. I was a Rainbow distributor, a Lux branch manager the last 4 years they were still the old American Electrolux corp. To my knowledge I am the only one ever invited to address the engineering team at Electrolux, which I did in 2000 at the behest of James McCain, chief of operations. I sold Kirbys several times, H I, G4, Ultimate and Diamond, won a few trips, etc.
I have met Jim and his wife Judy (and all 5 canine children) I was going to buy their vac shop in Mt Juliet, TN, but was unable to sell my home in time to do so. They are hospitable, wonderful people.
I have used the bagless conversion on my G4 for seven months, and it does indeed work extremely well. It is easy to tell when the unit has lost sufficient cleaning power to necessitate emptying/cleaning:
the Kirby bagless picks the carpet up with the characteristic 'buzz' usually one notch higher than with the bag. When it can not hold on to the carpet with normal movement at the height adjustment one would normally use with the bag, then it is time to dump the container and clean the filter.
I supplement my income by cleaning for several affluent clients, all of whom are multiple pet owners. I would have a large expenditure on Kirby bags without the bagless conversion. Two of my clients have remarked they like seeing me enter with the clean dirt canister because they can see that I am not dragging someone else's dirt into their home. (My clients are anally retentive, and I charge accordingly. The Kirby is shined before each cleaning job)
Where the bagless conversion really shines is pet hair and sand. Carpet fresh? Not so much. The filter does clog very quickly with fine powder. When I vacuum upholstery and mattresses I am more likely to use the bag. Carpet, bare floors and stairs with the hand portable, the bagless unit for sure.
As for the numbers and statistics: "It is aerodynamically impossible for a bumblebee to fly, given its body mass and proportionally too small wings. The bumblebee doesn't know this and happily flies anyway." The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works, I know it does and my clients do too.
As any engineer worth his (or her) salt can tell you, some things which are possible/impossible on paper turn out the complete opposite of what "must" be true. The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
Galileo was put to death for stating what we now know to be obvious: the earth is not the center of the universe, and it revolves around the sun. All great truths begin as heresies. The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
And while the bagless unit offends the aesthetic sensibilities of some, it certainly is not on a par with attaching arms to the Venus De Milo. If you think that it is you need to stop sleeping with your Kirby and get a life! It is just an adaptaion of an existing product for particular uses. No one is saying it can, or should totally replace the bag. I also have a cloth bag on a mini emptor, which I use when I have carpet fresh to dig out. It clogs the paper bags too quickly. So, paper bags, cloth bag, bagless canister. I use whatever the situation calls for. But, for the record, the Keeler bgaless conversion does work. It does clog, true, but it still has enough useful cleaning time before it clogs to make it a very useful, practical, thrify option.
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free, but that doesn't mean it's not going to piss you off first"
There are still people who belive the earth is flat, too. You can say what you want, but I and at least 115 other Kirby owners know the truth: the Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
Peace,
Trebor
First of all, I have some knowledge of vacuums. I was a Rainbow distributor, a Lux branch manager the last 4 years they were still the old American Electrolux corp. To my knowledge I am the only one ever invited to address the engineering team at Electrolux, which I did in 2000 at the behest of James McCain, chief of operations. I sold Kirbys several times, H I, G4, Ultimate and Diamond, won a few trips, etc.
I have met Jim and his wife Judy (and all 5 canine children) I was going to buy their vac shop in Mt Juliet, TN, but was unable to sell my home in time to do so. They are hospitable, wonderful people.
I have used the bagless conversion on my G4 for seven months, and it does indeed work extremely well. It is easy to tell when the unit has lost sufficient cleaning power to necessitate emptying/cleaning:
the Kirby bagless picks the carpet up with the characteristic 'buzz' usually one notch higher than with the bag. When it can not hold on to the carpet with normal movement at the height adjustment one would normally use with the bag, then it is time to dump the container and clean the filter.
I supplement my income by cleaning for several affluent clients, all of whom are multiple pet owners. I would have a large expenditure on Kirby bags without the bagless conversion. Two of my clients have remarked they like seeing me enter with the clean dirt canister because they can see that I am not dragging someone else's dirt into their home. (My clients are anally retentive, and I charge accordingly. The Kirby is shined before each cleaning job)
Where the bagless conversion really shines is pet hair and sand. Carpet fresh? Not so much. The filter does clog very quickly with fine powder. When I vacuum upholstery and mattresses I am more likely to use the bag. Carpet, bare floors and stairs with the hand portable, the bagless unit for sure.
As for the numbers and statistics: "It is aerodynamically impossible for a bumblebee to fly, given its body mass and proportionally too small wings. The bumblebee doesn't know this and happily flies anyway." The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works, I know it does and my clients do too.
As any engineer worth his (or her) salt can tell you, some things which are possible/impossible on paper turn out the complete opposite of what "must" be true. The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
Galileo was put to death for stating what we now know to be obvious: the earth is not the center of the universe, and it revolves around the sun. All great truths begin as heresies. The Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
And while the bagless unit offends the aesthetic sensibilities of some, it certainly is not on a par with attaching arms to the Venus De Milo. If you think that it is you need to stop sleeping with your Kirby and get a life! It is just an adaptaion of an existing product for particular uses. No one is saying it can, or should totally replace the bag. I also have a cloth bag on a mini emptor, which I use when I have carpet fresh to dig out. It clogs the paper bags too quickly. So, paper bags, cloth bag, bagless canister. I use whatever the situation calls for. But, for the record, the Keeler bgaless conversion does work. It does clog, true, but it still has enough useful cleaning time before it clogs to make it a very useful, practical, thrify option.
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free, but that doesn't mean it's not going to piss you off first"
There are still people who belive the earth is flat, too. You can say what you want, but I and at least 115 other Kirby owners know the truth: the Keeler Kirby bagless conversion works.
Peace,
Trebor
hoovercelebrity
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Ugh. Really?
This thread is still going?
**rolls eyes**
This thread is still going?
**rolls eyes**
kirbyotronic
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Oy.
vintageroyal611
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Is this thread EVER going to die?
Don't remember what thread it was on has anyone tried the "Forever" bags for Kirbys and other vacuums-this could be an alternative to the Keeler unit-and you can keep the orig bag on your Kirby.
Oh yeah, I remember hearing about those on this site. I knew about them before that. Yeah, their made by this guy on youtube that owns a vacuum shop. I was interested in buying some, but I didn't get one. It's a gray cloth bag that you can open like a hoover elite's outer bag and dump out the dust. But you still keep the original outer bag. Here is a link to them.
http://shop.haleysvac.com/Forever-Vacuum-Bags_c2.htm
http://shop.haleysvac.com/Forever-Vacuum-Bags_c2.htm
richardc1983
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This really did make me laugh!
What was he thinking to design something of such poor standard!
What was he thinking to design something of such poor standard!
rickenbacker
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I have just been laughing and laughing through-out this whole thread!
this guy realy thinks hes done something usefull
Charlie
this guy realy thinks hes done something usefull
Charlie
hooverjedilord
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Hey, just want to know whether anyone has ACTUALLY seen Keeler's self propelled Kirby? Any pictures? Is there even any evidence it ever existed? Although he said he sold the self propelled conversion all throughout the USA how come no one here has ever had one or even seen one? To be honest, I think it sounds like some egotistical Bull shit. But I'd love to be proven wrong, Keeler's supposed pre-tech drive sounds mighty interesting!
kirbysthebest
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OH-CRAP!!
It's back, the thread that will not die.
Keeler is so full of old poo his eyes turned brown and he breath stinks.
I've seen his "inventions" on Youtube.
Nurse Ratchet will be around later to give him his meds.
It's back, the thread that will not die.
Keeler is so full of old poo his eyes turned brown and he breath stinks.
I've seen his "inventions" on Youtube.
Nurse Ratchet will be around later to give him his meds.
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