Bidding on ebay getting out of hand on a Eureka

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OMG the bidding is geting WAY to out of hand on ebay, on a eureka model 1470,(link to follow) to the tune of $130.00, and that is why I HATE bidding for anything on ebay. I mean SERIOUSLY, I cannot justify paying 130 bucks for a vintage vacuum, that is technically not vintage, it's from like the 80's people get GREEDY on ebay, especially I have noticed on vacuums, I am a collector too and even tho I like something and want it I am not going to pay an enormous amount for it. Just wanted to rant and say that it is ridiculous the bidding wars that go on on ebay, I hope whoever it is on here that is outbidding everyone, is happy and enjoys the machine, i sure as hell would for 130 bucks... The sob better have 24k gold in it too....


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Im Guilty lol =(

I must admit if i want something bad i will pay xxx.$ for it but I set a limit. I have been searching and bidding and searching and out bid, for a metal base convertible, I have found one i just had to have and i must admit i went over my limit by 5 bucks but Im a sucker for blue lol.I did almost bid on this Eureka but my limit on what i woulda spent (60.00) total was reached quickly lol. Never would i bid over 100.00 on a vac that sold at K-mart for 69.99 in 1987-88. Anyway Im rambling on. Just my .02. Kenny

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Greed has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is an auction and the person who wants the item badly enough and has the funds will pay for it. That's what an auction is. It has nothing to do with what the item up for bid is either, new, old, good shape, bad shape. You don't know the reason why the person wants it so badly, could be sentimental so you can't just blanket statement that people are greedy
 
You are so so right Pete, we must remember that Ebay is just that an auction!! An item is worth just whatever someone is willing to pay for it!!
 
Do yourself a favor and think about what you're about to

Lee, I don't know where to begin my criticism of your lack of reasoning. Succinctly, therefore, "bidding wars that go on on ebay" is oxymoronic emotionalism subverting logic. Do you suggest that no one bid against someone else in an auction? You can write whatever you want within the parameters of the rules set by the webmaster, but you should expect that the readership will remember that your "rant" is on par with the self-centered of perhaps an 8-year-old, which embarrassment won't serve you well long-term. Morality is not determined by your convenience or indulgence, the capacity for the understanding of which is a key pre-adolescent developmental milestone.

And it's only Monday morning.

"/rant"
 
sometimes...if you're lucky...

The last three machines I have bought on ebay I was actually outbid on, however, the seller would make me a second chance offer, usually at a lowered price either because they have a duplicate item to sell, or the original winner ended up being a non-paying deadbeat. If you want it, bid within your limits, you never know what will happen. That is how I got my Legend II and G5 Kirbys!
 
As much as I stated above I do understand Lee's frustration. It's happened to me as well on numerous occasions. I pretty much set my limit on what I'm going to pay and I often as not don't get the item. Thing is is that something as good or better usually turns up sooner or later again on Ebay or in a thrift store for much much less and I definitely like getting stuff for less LOL
The lesser the better.
 
All kinds of explanations...

There could be all kinds of reasons the bidding would go so high. Someone with deep pockets into Eureka's. Someone who has the other colors and wants the full lineup. Who knows? Or, like any other online auction, it's a gamble,some people are high rollers. And some people get caught up in the excitement. Also, looking at the sellers other items -- they seem to generate a lot of bids, and are in great condition. That seller may have a following that is willing to pay a premium.

Myself, I have a few "preferred" sellers that I will pay a premium for their wares as I know it will be exactly or better than stated, and packed to survive a nuclear blast.

There *ARE* some ridiculous bidding wars on eBay. At the same time the bid sheet on my Elextrolux was gathering dust (I was the only bidder) there was a free-for-all going on a Dyson that was advertised as -- get ready for it -- "Does Not Work!" And yes, the derelict Dyson sold for multiples of what my working Electrolux cost. So goes the way of the world.

Heavy breath here, because I'm going to get in trouble for this, I'm sure...but a few, one in particular, responses here are kind of...well...over the top.

A bit of background. I've known about the VCCC for years and years. I was even going to join as the next convention was going to be in St. Louis. I thought "Perfect! It'll be local and I'll get to meet like-minded folks!" But at the time, some brouhaha about something or other flared up, and I deferred joining as I thought "Ok, they've got some issues they need to work out, and this is not the right time."

Fast-forward to current day, In my short time, I've seen shootouts on these forums over what vac is better that what other vac, so on and so forth.

I like old technology, most all of it. Collecting and restoring these things is what I do to bring peace and light, not heat. It's something I really enjoy, and it brings me satisfaction. I think those sentiments can be understood by anyone reading this forum...and few others, as we all know.

Now, I know, I can click the "delete my account" button, and make sure the door doesn't hit my @ss on the way out, and be just fine. Granted, I'm still a newbie, a short-timer, and it's probably inappropriate for me to say anything at this point in my tenure, as none of you really know me. But it's my hope that this is a place where I can learn new things, come to appreciate other things (such as the recently added Electrolux and Hoovers to my collection), and offer the same to others. I love looking at all your collections, and your finds. I love seeing someone acquire something others would call "junk" and from it, show a shining example of vintage technology.

I know it cannot be graciousness, tea, scones, and pleasant "ladies who lunch" light conversation. But something between that and CNN Crossfire would be a good meeting point, wouldn't it?

Said in respect, and just my opinion...YMMV...

John
 
I know that ebay is an auction

And I am not criticizing anyone by no means, please don't misunderstand me, all I am saying is that sometimes items on ebay will be sold for FAR more than what they are actually worth on market value, on the other hand if some one chooses to pay an enormous price than so be it, all I am saying is that myself personally don't see the point in paying an astronomical price for something that is in fact, new OLD or used, unless it has been refurbished and labor was involved, that is a different case. I know that some things have sentimental value to certain people, such as myself, I'd love to find an Electrolux like the one i grew up with, but I am not willing to pay an outrageous price for it either.
I have bought many of things on ebay for a really great price, I was just looking at items on there yesterday and came across this listing and thought that it was getting a little out of hand bidding for a used non vintage plastic vacuum.
 
Over the Top response.........

Well…..sometimes I would have to agree with John that some statements on this site can be over the top and can border on outright vicious. However, I find that most of the time when people get heated over something that is said on here it usually only shows how committed they are to the topic at hand or the site itself. In defense of Sleepdoc’s statement I must state that Patrick is a deeply caring individual which I believe shows in some of his posts. Also on a few occasions Patrick in my opinion has helped push the site towards a higher standard of being.

He has argued for stronger guidelines and standards of how we post on here and has more then once stood up for the younger members of the site in helping clean up some inappropriate material which was posted in different threads. He is full of compassion and I’m sure anyone who knows him knows very well that he would not say something unless it was for the greater good of the site or he felt it had to be said.

Furthermore, as most of us know things that are written down sometimes don’t come across the way we mean them too. I believe the great Marlene Dietrich said it the best in saying….

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”



Dave
 
Do you ever watch Antiques Roadshow.. what really blows me away is this kind of example..

A $3 toy robot from Kresges or Woolworths back in 1960 gets valued at $4,000.00, I'm not exageratting but usually something like that.. it's a piece of junk made in Hong Kong only 48 years old.

The next person brings in beautifully ornate walnut veneered little table from Connecticut circa 1720 and they value it at $1800?

What's more valuable really?
 
Decade:

I know that the bidding seems to be out of proportion, but as someone else here said, it is what it is, for reasons no one but the high bidder knows about.

I once ran bidding on an item way up myself, paying about twice as much as the item usually goes for. Now, why in the hell did I do that? Well, the item was a teakwood trivet matching several others I already owned, and it was the week before Thanksgiving, and I needed that piece desperately to complete the table setting. No one else bidding in that auction had such a compelling reason, no one else was willing to outbid me, and so I got the item I needed, even though I paid a high price for it.

Thanksgiving dinner was gorgeous, as I had intended it should be. Since then, the same item has come up on eBay several times, and sold for prices way less than I paid. I don't regret my purchase, and those who competed against me in that auction have had other chances to get the same thing, much cheaper.

That's how it works, and that's how it's always gonna, so relax - you'll get what you want soon enough if you just keep your eyes open and a little money saved up.
 
Believe me, I share your frustrations. My disenchantment with eBay stems all the way back to the first item I bid on 9 years ago. At the time, I was in college and skipped a class to watch the auction finished on a 1937 Kenmore Imperial. I thought it was mine, and within the last few seconds, some S.O.B. (whom I later found out was also in the VCCC) "sniped" me. I ended paying alot more than the $177.50 to get mine years later, and that one had the original bag too. It's amazing, in an economy where everything is down, it speaks volumes that some are willing to pay a king's ransom for a vintage vacuum. Wish I had those kind of funds....
 
I don't get this "sniped" thing or should I say peoples disenchantment with it other than the appearance of being taken.
You're supposed to put or you should at least make your highest bid you can possibly afford or want to pay for it and that's it so whether someone outbids your maximum bid 5 days or 5 seconds before the auction closes what difference does it make, you would have been outbid regardless.

Please explain to me?
 
Sniping

I've heard there are computer programs that people use to "snipe" an item by submitting the highest bid at the very last second. Don't know if that's accurate information.
 

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