Baking Soda Myth

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So, i hear this 'Myth' that Baking soda on your carpet for 10 minutes it good to kill odors if you vacuum it up right away. I did this one time, and I will never do it again. Is it just me or is the Baking soda hard on motors, bearings and bags? I want some thoughts as some of my vacuums smell and i want to know if sucking up some baking soda would help (or should I sprinkle it in the bag)?
Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
Andy Rousonelos
 
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It's not a myth. It works. Baking soda is a natural deodorizer:

* You can put an open box in your fridge to keep it smelling fresher.

* You can add 1/4 cup to your laundry.

* You can sprinkle a bit in the bottom of the cat box before adding the kitty litter.

* You can sprinkle some in the bottom of your garbage can before installing the plastic trash bag.

* And, yes, you can sprinkle a LIGHT dusting of it onto your carpeting and leave it alone for an hour or two. HOWEVER, do not vacuum it up with a power nozzle or "dirty air" upright. Use a straight-suction tank or canister.
 
"Love My Carpet" = Kill Your Vacuum

Agreed. While baking soda and baking soda-based "carpet fresh" products are effective at killing odors, they are also equally effective at killing vacuum cleaners. Remember, baking soda is a SALT and salts promote oxidation of most metals. Without exception, every vacuum I've rescued from the trash was encrusted with that shit. Not a big deal for plastic parts, but metal, especially steel, copper, brass or aluminum, is another story entirely.
 
Im aiming to just pour a small amount into the bag on the L. A good friend, Toby Glenn (ge1969), and collector sent it to me at $10 under the price of shipping! Its a good machine, but it smells something awful!
 
I really wold like HEPA bags, but i really cant afford them with Lux bags (paper) being so cheap, im fine without hepa. i dont have water vacuums, so...
Andy Rousonelos
 
In all the years of having any vacuum I can't remember any of them having a stench as described. Even with the thick shag we had in the 60's/70's we had them shampood regularly with a Von Schradder. Even today with the central collection system I'm still waiting to dump it & it's been close to 1 1/2yrs now & it's only half full but no putrid smell in the debris bucket.
 
Couple of things...

Baking soda works great at sucking up stains on dirty carpet. As others have said, don't use a motorized brush to clean it up. I've found the soda gets on the belts and will cause slippage, which heats up the belt causing it to expand and ruining it.

As for stinky vac bags, remember, ideally we're cleaning up live bacteria, bugs, mites, moisture, dirt, etc. All that stuff, in a paper bag, left on a warm day, for weeks, etc. is bound to created stench as it grows.

I used to actively use my Electroluxs, both upright and Olympia. When ever the machines were not in use, I would carefully remove the bag and place it in a plastic shopping bag (or similar) and put it in the freezer.
Why? Because the freezing kills the bacteria.

And when it comes time to vacuum, put the bag in the machine and the smell is crisp and fresh. Like the smell one gets from a freezer where the fan is blowing the frozen air at you when you open the door.

Also, by not leaving the dirt in the machine, the machine stays clean. I would think the bags last longer because they aren't under threat of being consumed by the bacteria in the bag. In addition, for older metal machines, the moisture we pick up when vacuuming would stay in the bag and migrate into the machine, and cause rust. By removing the bag (and I always leave the bag doors open so the machine can ventilate), the moisture is removed, helping to preserve the vac.
 
I think removing the bag is going a step too far. You may as well strip down the whole vacuum including the dust channels and air ways to properly sterilise your vacuum.

After all its all very well removing the bag to eliminate pong but you're not really eliminating the scent because the airways are lined with sludge, dirt and oils associated with household traffic dirt. That's where the stench collects and grows - same with the hoses and the cleaning tools.
 
I use a Compact C9 or TriStar CXL (with a Lux combo rug/floor tool) for vacing baking soda or Love My Carpet left on carpet; then change the bag right away when done or suction power greatly diminished

When I clean houses, I had to change the Compact's bag several times (sometimes I go thru 12+ bags per house) because the clients' vacs don't work that good (most likely poorly maintained) or they didn't vacuum at all

Back when we had shag carpeting my mother shampooed the carpets with a Electrolux B8
 
I'm quite blessed to own a Rainbow E2 black (75th anniversary edition) as well as just having had an HP Vac U Flo central vac (twin motor) installed in my home. So No Odors of any kind with my vacs. That being said, I do have a few bag machines I love, but the hair from our 100 pound border collie was too much to bear. I found the most AWESOME thing in the fabric softener aisle.

The Gain In-Wash Scent Booster beads are wonderful for the vacuum. About 15 of them, vacuumed up into the bag, completely overpowers odors and only the smell of gain (smells like wash day - clean laundry) comes out. TRY SOME, you'll sing its praises too. Suavetelle and Downey makes them too. Their made of wax, and do not harm the vacuum in any way.
 
"...Why? Because the freezing kills the bacteria....&#34

Nonsense.

Some bacteria might be killed, the rest will go into suspended animation. Think of the bacteria caught in ice at the South Pole, from hundreds of thousands of years ago. And it's also the reason why you don't want to put ice in your drink when visiting certain foreign countries.

The only things that will be killed are dust mites and creepy crawlies.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/1998/ast12mar98_1/
 
YEP and yep



dead and suspended are good.

For those that are suspended, it will be virtually as long as they are in there. What I found is the typical "vacuum session" is about 15 minutes. So that is the only time the bag is not in the freezer. There isn't enough time for the bacteria to reawaken and start duplicating.

Works great.

I wonder how practical removing cumbersome bags is though. Electrolux bags are rubber necked and easily pull out. Things like upright bags can be messy and cumbersome, especially older styles like Eureka's F&G bags.

Personally, I wouldn't use a vac that doesn't have an easy change bag. I think if I had something like a Filter Queen, I would remove the power unit and put the entire base in the freezer. Wouldn't even put it in a bag, but would need adequate freezer space.

http://https//answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080120231000AA8JB30
 
I am going to try those laundry scent boosters as well.Since they are large beads-no bag clogging.I have a few bagged central vacuums that came from a MD dealers trade in pile.Thinking getting one of his MD bagged units as well.Planning to use it as a "monster vac" paired with my Kirby or metal Royal.One of my NuTones has twin motors and the other has one single 12A motor.Also will use the long hose on my NSS M1.Have paired that with a Kirby.Works well!
Germs on the poles-since man seldom goes there-it is actually quite sterile.
Bags--would rather have these-since dumping a bagless central unit is one real pain is the you know what!!My Mom had a NuTome bagless central unit in one of her homes.She would have central units put in.That bagless thing was HORRIBLE to empty--worse than a Shop Vac.Imagine a years worth of stuff--many gallons of home dirt--you get the idea.Would rather this be in a bag.Just lift out-throw in the trash.No gagging on dust.Put in another bag-Done-and you don't get dirty.Had to take a shower after dumping that machine.One of her other places had a B&D central unit that used a bag-done in less than 5 min changing bags.Told her she could do it-but had me do it on my visits.Didn't mind the B&D.All the central units I have use bags-same with the proposed new MD unit.It has a giant open Filtrete bag like a giant TriStar bag.Then a cloth bag under the disposable one and a filter on top of the motor inlet.
 
I will agree with human.

I can't even count the number of machines I've seen totally trashed by that carpet fresh stuff, let alone the number of electronics with circuit boards caked with the junk.

I have a 37" LCD TV setting downstairs right now that was shutting off every 15 minutes, boards where caked with it...it doesn't even blow out with compressed air, you literally have to scrub it off with a stiff paintbrush or toothbrush. Nasty stuff.
 
Baking soda and sodium carbonate-both of these show up in rug and carpet freshners.BOTH can be hard on plastic body machines as well as metal ones.Those materials erode direct air fans,and if the stuff collects in areas in the machine it will eventually eat the plastic.And these will also eat up paper vacuum bags besides clogging them.
 
Baking soda

I second what everyone else said.


1.  It's corrosive,


2.  It can damage plastic and metal


 


It is also a very effective deoderizer. 


 


We get a lot of calls in our housing department regarding apartments and bed bugs/fleas etc.  Baking soda along with it's cousin Borax is very effective in flea control in carpeting. They dehydrate the critters and they die.   Somewhat effective with bedbugs as well. 


 


Though I am drifting, want to add the best flea/bedbug control, vacuuming.   Vacuuming often reduced the population, as well as leads to the little buggers demise through dehydration from the strong air flow and losening of their cuitical layer.


 


It is recommended that you dispose of the bag after each session of critter removal.  I can see a Rainbow very helpful, but the people in Section 8 housing probably won't have access to a $2,000 vacuum .


 


 
 
Vermiculite................

This is very useful for anyone who wants to make their own scent formula for the vacuum.You can buy it at most garden stores, just look through the bag to make sure it isn't all crumbled to bits. Its absorbs the essential oils and it remains totally dry, non corrosive, etc.

There's a company called Greenleaf that's been making these scented sachets for years and they are advertised to be "vacuum safe".

There's also a great company for fragrance materials called Hayward Enterprises (see link). They sell a lot of "designer imposter" fragrance oils and also they have very good pricing on Grade B and Grade C essential oils.

http://haywardenterprises.com/
 
Gain In-Wash Scent Booster beads

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When I went to the grocery store the other night, I couldn't find this product. I asked an employee about it and he hadn't heard of it. He checked the store computer and said they don't carry it. This is one of the largest grocery chains on the West Coast!
 
Well..I discovered last night that those Lenor Unstoppable fabric scent beads are absolutely useless. They burn off the scent when washing has been put in a tumble dryer and dried off.

However. They are far better being used in a bagged vac as the scent lasts for ages.
 
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