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Kirby fill tube

You just simply slide the "PLASTIC" kirby fill tube over the F&G fill tube and if you want you can roll the spring up over it or you can just leave it with out the spring. Either way the fill tube will stay snug on there.
 
Kirby Fill tube

It can be performed on any Eureka-Sanitaire that has an F&G fill tube on it. IT vastly improves airflow, If you use the poly bags and the filtration is improved too. And when you are out of kirby bags you can just slide the Kirby fill tube back off and continue using F&G bags. make sure to still keep the bag spring handy though if you wish to use F&G bags. On a pancake motor it is just insane how much power the F&G bags hold back. If you use a shake out it will pretty much have the same airflow when it was new but with better filtration.
 
I like the Juniors, it's probably the only Hoover I actually like, they're light, they're manoeuvrable, the two I now have only use 250 Watts, and because they were a very common vac here, spares are everywhere (most made by Qualtex these days), so they're easily maintained to keep them going, and I've had 4 to date, a U1104 (Sold, pictured above and got a couple of youtube vids of that), a 1346 (Scrapped, the above & below pictured one), a 1334 and a 1334-lookalike rebuilt in the 90's by a Hoover dealer... :)

That said I'm thinking of selling off the 1334, mostly because it's still packed up in a box from moving across the country, I do like it, but, I just don't feel like keeping it...

As for hose use, I haven't a clue as I haven't got a toolset, but from what Jack (vintagehoover/DysonAnimal(?)) says on his website, it outperforms the Seniors with their tool converters fitted, as the Juniors work like Kirbys do in that you have a belt lifter adaptor that slots into the front, turn the dial and it removed the belt, and then slot your hose in and off you go doing your dusting... :)

Anyway, that Junior above didn't always look like that, when I got it it was a different colour, and was in very sad shape, it was a 1346, probably in it's Coffee & Cream colour, but someone with a tin of beige paint and a brush just slopped it all over the base of the vac, I did remove the paint, but the plastic looked awful so I sprayed it a Vauxhall metallic red (was going to be blue, but nobody stocked a blue I liked), which looked awful, and the motor gave out so, I left it behind when we moved, but the handle assembly, brushroll and some of the wiring lives on in my 1334-lookalike...

The picture is only half the story, the smell was terrible:

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Well I know it's not Sanitaire but I did to my converti

My Convertible takes Kirby's G Series bags. I not going back to type A bags. lol

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I would suggest using Hoover Type-Y bags with that Type-A filltube, but, I got a generic Eureka bag from a friend that was used on a Hoover with such a setup, and the dirt went right through the Type-Y bag and left a slight stain on the cloth bag, so, yeah you are definitely better off with that Kirby filltube and Kirby bags... :P

Now buy these Kirby bags instead and be amazed!!:



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I have ordered two Kirby "F" style bag fill tubes-The tube end that goes onto the cloth bag connector is molded and more flexible-should adapt to the other vacuums bag tube better.The test subjects I have in mind--An "A" bag metal Royal,and a Koblentz that uses F&G bags.Will leave the ST bag in my Sanitaire.Mike was out of stock on them,.He had only two left-an older G type tube and the new F fit one.Dry test runs on a Sanitaire bag he has that uses F&G bags show either could fit-the F one fit more easily.You could form the end of its more flexible tube to fit-and it has a groove for a ty-wrap or other fastening device.
 
Stricklybojack

Sorry for the year late reply. I performed the conversion on an Eureka 1432A. The filltube came off of my Kirby Ultamite G Diamond Edition. You slide the Kirby's filltube over the horn on the F&G outer bag and rolled the spring up to lock it in place. I have since had a Sanitaire ST fill tube in my Eureka with a new white cloth outer bag installed. I got the fill tube by politely asking my closest authorized Sanitaire/Eureka deal if he could please order one in for me and I would go and pick it up and pay for it then. The fill tube costed me $9.99 with 6% sales tax for Michigian. Then about a year or so down the road I got a genuine white cloth Eureka bag for around $29.99 as well as a new VG2, so i could preserve my almost 32 year old VG2 from 1982 that has the " over 20,00 beats per minute lifetime lubricated ball bearings " sticker on it.
 

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