anyone selling a dyson for $135

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Why in the world

would anyone want a Hoover Empower? It's not one of Hoover's finer machines. Make sure you buy several filters. I think you should still keep looking for that Dyson.

Derreck
 
...the empower will get your carpets VERY CLEAN, at a fraction of the price of a Dyson...(ducks and runs)...
 
for $135 or less? where do they sell dc17s for $135 rob g? did you read the title of the thread?
 
Hoover Empower

To David..

I can say from personal experience that the Hoover Empower will only clean (VERY WELL) for about 2 minutes. I own (2) Hoover V2 Windtunnels and own a Dyson DC17. The Hoover V2 Windtunnel uses the same type of dustcup as the Hoover Empower. After a few minutes, the screen in the dustcup of the Hover is covered with dust and, in my case dog hair and the filter becomes very clogged reducing the suction. Since I have both the Dyson and the Hoover it is very easy for me to compare. No matter how much dirt the Dyson picks up, it still has great suction. I have many, many Hoovers in my collection and I REALLY like a lot of them, like my Decade 80. For some reason I just love that machine. But anyway.. for this very reason, I ordered the bag cup for my Hoover Windtunnel V2, because I do think it's a very cool machine, just hate the design of the "bagless dirt cup". In my opinion, the only bagless vacuum that works good is the Dyson, because of their cyclone design with no filters to clog.

Derreck
 
Of course Dyson just doesn't have the quality it used to, its no coincidence that our old DC02 is still used by my dad and that when my brother went to the dump one time pretty much all the vacuums there were newer model dysons.

Ian
 
Ian...I would have to say that I agree with you about dyson. Are they very popular over in England? Do the bagless cleaners sell better than the bagged where you are?

--Tom
 
Your dc02...

...is prety much the same as our Fantom (pre euro-trash) lightning. We have a powernozle with ours. Is yours straight suction?

Ab
 
I'd definately say theres a trend towards cyclonic vacuums over here, although it is interesting to note that all the high quality machines over here, sebo, numatic, bosch, miele etc are all bagged. ;)

Ian
 
Bagless & bagged..

Ian..

I'm not sure what other kinds of bagless vacuums you have over there, but the only thing that I know here in the US is that many companies have tried to make a bagless vacuum, and the only one I would even spend the money on is the Dyson. Dirt Devil, Eureka, Hoover, and several other companies have made bagless machines, and they all seem like worthless pieces of you know what. The problem is, they all use some kind of bizarre filter system that somehow always clogs and gets disgustingly dirty, therefore reducing the suction tremendously. Dysons are more expensive machines here, but it's the only design that seems to "work Properly". If the other machines didn't have these filters that constantly clog, I would probably have a better opinion of them. I don't use a bagless vacuum very often. When I vacuum my house to really get it clean, I will either use my Rainbow E2 or, after next week I will use my Miele Red Velvet that I'm getting.

Derreck
 
Ian...thanks for the insight. Here it is sometimes harder to find an upright that is bagged. The bagless thing I think is just a fad. I still would rather change the bag in my old Hoover once a week or so than to deal with a messy bin everytime I sweep. I wonder if the high end machines will ever go bagless? I wonder why Miele, Sebo, etc. keep bags on their machines? I wonder what they know? Thanks again Ian!

--Tom
 
From what I read on their website, sebo machines are so well sealed the only filter needed is the bag (for obvious reasons lol).

I guess I may have misinterpreted the site ;)

Ian
 
My Sebo needs a exhaust filter. the first day of use it is gray from carbon dust. But, it has excellent filtration!
 
That cleared that up pretty well ;) lol.

I do know that the Hoover Dial A Matics have no real filters though.

Ian
 

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