mark40511
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I had a Renaissance
and I LOVED it - but the controls in the handle died TWICE! That made me LOATHE it.
and I LOVED it - but the controls in the handle died TWICE! That made me LOATHE it.
Any Updates to Aerus Lux Guardian Platinum?
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kirbylux77
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Well, look at this! Looks like Tip Top Parts Canada is also carrying a generic Style P bag for the Aerus Guardian Platinum. For some reason, though, this one isn't showing up on the American website, only the Canadian website, so Americans would have to contact a Canadian dealer & have them ordered & shipped.
http://www.tiptopparts.ca/product.htm?pid=285600&cat=15658
http://www.tiptopparts.ca/product.htm?pid=285600&cat=15658
georgect
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Hose At Canister...
Is the hose able to turn at the end where it connects to the vacuum?
(anti-kink)
Mine only turns at the handle end.
Is the hose able to turn at the end where it connects to the vacuum?
(anti-kink)
Mine only turns at the handle end.
The Guardian Platinum hose swivels at both ends.
Gary
Gary
georgect
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FYI...Swivel Hose
Hey guys...here's an FYI.
I contacted Aerus via email last night and they responded this morning with this answer.
"Thank you for your message.
All of our Aerus vacuums have a stationary hose end, so that it does not swivel. At one time, the Guardian Platinum had an issue with the hose shorting out due to a problem with the swivel end, so the decision was made to go back to all stationary end pieces.
The only swivel would be from the hose end that goes into the upper wand.
If we may provide additional assistance through our Aerus Customer Service Office, please let us know by return email, or by calling the number below."
"Aerus Customer Service
800-243-9078 USA"
So they did update at least the hose connection at some point.
Hey guys...here's an FYI.
I contacted Aerus via email last night and they responded this morning with this answer.
"Thank you for your message.
All of our Aerus vacuums have a stationary hose end, so that it does not swivel. At one time, the Guardian Platinum had an issue with the hose shorting out due to a problem with the swivel end, so the decision was made to go back to all stationary end pieces.
The only swivel would be from the hose end that goes into the upper wand.
If we may provide additional assistance through our Aerus Customer Service Office, please let us know by return email, or by calling the number below."
"Aerus Customer Service
800-243-9078 USA"
So they did update at least the hose connection at some point.
Hmmm, I wonder when they changed it? I bought my Platinum in Nov/13 and both hose ends swivel.
georgect
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Air Port...Blue or Protective Film?
Hey guys another question for you.
The blower port (that has the Lux Platinum logo), does it have a blue tinge because it's made that way or is there a blueish plastic protective film that can be pulled off?
Hey guys another question for you.
The blower port (that has the Lux Platinum logo), does it have a blue tinge because it's made that way or is there a blueish plastic protective film that can be pulled off?
electromatik
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It's getting increasingly difficult for the American public to get hold of a true "high-end" machine. Most of the U.S. companies have discontinued the fully featured canisters. With Tacony's cancellation of the full size models, there is now no major U.S. manufacturer with "controls on the handle." any longer. No current Aerus, Kirby, Rexair, or Tacony vacuum with that feature. I guess the public just doesn't care. It's just like a high-end car, if you can't afford to maintain it, and are too lazy to do so, don't buy it.
For decades, U.S. Electrolux was at the forefront of technology. They pioneered many "firsts" introduced to vacuums. Their whizz-bang technology actually worked too. That automatic shut off/door open technology worked for years and years without trouble on many machines. Then came the Renaissance with all functions in the handle. It was one of the early pioneers of digital controls. It was very early in the engineering period and because people usually abuse vacuums the machines had high failure rates. I agree it's a shame what has happened to them. Or rather what has been done *TO* them by you know who...
So no one will have to worry about it anymore since they are no more unless one buys a German model. We'll see which manufacturer survives long term.
For decades, U.S. Electrolux was at the forefront of technology. They pioneered many "firsts" introduced to vacuums. Their whizz-bang technology actually worked too. That automatic shut off/door open technology worked for years and years without trouble on many machines. Then came the Renaissance with all functions in the handle. It was one of the early pioneers of digital controls. It was very early in the engineering period and because people usually abuse vacuums the machines had high failure rates. I agree it's a shame what has happened to them. Or rather what has been done *TO* them by you know who...
So no one will have to worry about it anymore since they are no more unless one buys a German model. We'll see which manufacturer survives long term.
eurekaprince
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Maybe having all the switches and electronics in the handle is too problematic? We are often hearing about electrified hoses and wands developing electrical problems that at minimum prevent power from reaching the power nozzle, or at worst, prevent the user from even turning on the vacuum. And when you think about all the bangs and hits suffered by a hose handle over the years (dropped on the floor, hitting a piece of furniture or banged into a part of the inside of a car or cabinet), it makes sense for a manufacturer to keep all the circuit boards and power controls inside the canister itself. Those fancy hoses are not cheap to replace.
eurekaprince
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I loved the original Eureka Express Power Nozzle. The on/off switch for the nozzle was a nice big push pedal on the nozzle itself. No fuss, no muss. And I imagine easy to replace if it breaks.
Aerus LLC is the U.S. affiliate of Lux International of Switzerland and is only involved in marketing, sales/repairs, and distribution. Its current vacuum cleaners and their accessories are either reproductions (with minor updates) of the 1982 Canadian cleaners (Lux Classic & Lux Legacy) or a revision of a Lux International cleaner (Lux Guardian Platinum).
Contrary to widespread thought the end of Electrolux LLC (USA) was not a result of an independent businessman's decision but of a multi-corporation deal.
In 1998, Lux International (the 'Lux' in 'Electrolux') and The Electrolux Group dissolved their union that had been established in 1919. The sale of the Electrolux trademark and brand from the U.S. corporation to the Swedish one was part of the deal, so that Lux International could have a share in the U.S. market through Aerus and Aerus could benefit from Lux International's experience in the home care industry and financial resources.
The deal also provided manufacturing assistance to Aerus, which shifted much of its production during the summer of 2003 to the AB Electrolux's Eureka plants in Tennessee and Mexico. 2016 marked the end of Aerus production altogether when Eureka took on the remainder of Aerus's production, including the Floor Pro and tools. Also, some products are outsourced to Hong Kong such as the Little Luxs and Sidekick line.
Without the sale of the 'Electrolux' name, Electrolux LLC would likely either have folded a few years after the European dissolution or been sold to another company due to its inability to compete in the industry along with its lack of capital.
I was thinking that since 2019 is Aerus's 95th year it would have been a good time to introduce a new color line and an update of the LGP, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Contrary to widespread thought the end of Electrolux LLC (USA) was not a result of an independent businessman's decision but of a multi-corporation deal.
In 1998, Lux International (the 'Lux' in 'Electrolux') and The Electrolux Group dissolved their union that had been established in 1919. The sale of the Electrolux trademark and brand from the U.S. corporation to the Swedish one was part of the deal, so that Lux International could have a share in the U.S. market through Aerus and Aerus could benefit from Lux International's experience in the home care industry and financial resources.
The deal also provided manufacturing assistance to Aerus, which shifted much of its production during the summer of 2003 to the AB Electrolux's Eureka plants in Tennessee and Mexico. 2016 marked the end of Aerus production altogether when Eureka took on the remainder of Aerus's production, including the Floor Pro and tools. Also, some products are outsourced to Hong Kong such as the Little Luxs and Sidekick line.
Without the sale of the 'Electrolux' name, Electrolux LLC would likely either have folded a few years after the European dissolution or been sold to another company due to its inability to compete in the industry along with its lack of capital.
I was thinking that since 2019 is Aerus's 95th year it would have been a good time to introduce a new color line and an update of the LGP, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
When did the Legacy/Classic adopt this single-stage, loud motor?
I have a 2014 black Legacy, and I find the motor to be super powerful and very quiet. It doesn't "seem" as powerful as my Guardian Ultra, but it is a bit quieter, I think. I assume the Ultra has a different motor to push the air through the HEPA, but maybe I'm wrong.
In the wand debate, I'd have to side with those who think the controls belong on the canister. Wands get accidentally dropped, they fall on their own, they bang around in closets. I don't need a fragile chip in there breaking. I'm totally fine with all of the controls being on the canister.
I do, however, think that Aerus needs updated wands. We're trying to reduce plastics, right? They should go back to aluminum/steel wands across the lineup. Classic steel friction wands on the Lux Classic, and telescoping aluminum locking wands on the Legacy and Platinum. But no electronics. Just my vote.
...And while we're at it, let's make AT LEAST the Legacy a HEPA machine (if not the Classic, too). Pull the old Ultra internals (if there is any difference), stuff them under the current accessory housing, and go with it. It won't sabotage Platinum sales; the multiple filters in that machine, coupled with its modern style and various suction options elevate it to a different level.
Maybe make the Legacy a cordless while we're at it, if we're dreaming? lol. Keep the cord winder in case the battery drains, but stuff a battery under the cover where the suction valve currently sits. I'd buy that all day long.
I have a 2014 black Legacy, and I find the motor to be super powerful and very quiet. It doesn't "seem" as powerful as my Guardian Ultra, but it is a bit quieter, I think. I assume the Ultra has a different motor to push the air through the HEPA, but maybe I'm wrong.
In the wand debate, I'd have to side with those who think the controls belong on the canister. Wands get accidentally dropped, they fall on their own, they bang around in closets. I don't need a fragile chip in there breaking. I'm totally fine with all of the controls being on the canister.
I do, however, think that Aerus needs updated wands. We're trying to reduce plastics, right? They should go back to aluminum/steel wands across the lineup. Classic steel friction wands on the Lux Classic, and telescoping aluminum locking wands on the Legacy and Platinum. But no electronics. Just my vote.
...And while we're at it, let's make AT LEAST the Legacy a HEPA machine (if not the Classic, too). Pull the old Ultra internals (if there is any difference), stuff them under the current accessory housing, and go with it. It won't sabotage Platinum sales; the multiple filters in that machine, coupled with its modern style and various suction options elevate it to a different level.
Maybe make the Legacy a cordless while we're at it, if we're dreaming? lol. Keep the cord winder in case the battery drains, but stuff a battery under the cover where the suction valve currently sits. I'd buy that all day long.
blackheart
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I dunno when but
I knew another collector who had a Lux 7000 It if i recall was in the same style as the 6500 and he went on and on about how it was so powerful and so quiet, and basically the best lux ever made, so I challenged him on it, he ended up bringing it into the shop.
We put a baird meter on it 3.5 at the machine and I think 1.5 at the hose. I have no idea how or why, but man, I just laughed. Mostly because he was talking it up to be this wonderfully powerful vacuum.
Now that's just one example I did have the opportunity to use a baird meter on a more recent Legacy that scored a 7.5 at the hoe putting it around 100 cfm
I knew another collector who had a Lux 7000 It if i recall was in the same style as the 6500 and he went on and on about how it was so powerful and so quiet, and basically the best lux ever made, so I challenged him on it, he ended up bringing it into the shop.
We put a baird meter on it 3.5 at the machine and I think 1.5 at the hose. I have no idea how or why, but man, I just laughed. Mostly because he was talking it up to be this wonderfully powerful vacuum.
Now that's just one example I did have the opportunity to use a baird meter on a more recent Legacy that scored a 7.5 at the hoe putting it around 100 cfm
legacy motor and controls in hose
I think the Legacy uses the same motor as the classic now, and I think the current model Tristar also uses this motor, it's a one stage motor, I also liked the two stage motors much better.
I don't consider the fact that we don't have any high end vacuums with the controls in the hose to be a bad thing. It's just more things that can fail. I know the Sebo canisters that have electric hoses also have the speed control in the hose. This is one case where a low tech approach is better, forget the speed controls entirely, just use a suction relief on the hose, problem solved.
Mike
I think the Legacy uses the same motor as the classic now, and I think the current model Tristar also uses this motor, it's a one stage motor, I also liked the two stage motors much better.
I don't consider the fact that we don't have any high end vacuums with the controls in the hose to be a bad thing. It's just more things that can fail. I know the Sebo canisters that have electric hoses also have the speed control in the hose. This is one case where a low tech approach is better, forget the speed controls entirely, just use a suction relief on the hose, problem solved.
Mike
