Another version of the Hoover Sebo Copy

[vegassucks]

I like this version of the Hoover want to be Sebo much better. A shop by me has one and it is probably a little better than the Sebo G1 if you can get over the made in China thing. My favorite toy my Ipad is made in China.

 

[vegassucks]

Some more photos

Here is a few more angles.

 

[gsheen]

China can make some good quality stuff too, IE your ipad, It all depends on what quality the customer ( product company ) wants.

 

[vegassucks]

German does not mean quality either

Your probably right. The only thing I do not like about my Miele S7 is I believe is is cheaply made to include a cheap bag door, hose problems and cheap plastic parts that break. It does clean well and if you treat it like Glass it might last a few years.

 

[turbo500]

I'd love to know how they're getting away with that

 

[myles_v]

I would also like to know how they're getting away with that. They're pretty close to being exactly the same.

 

[vegassucks]

They might not be. I noticed that the hoover site does show this uni but the link to online sellers show none. I would not be surprised if this version is pulled do to lawsuits from Sebo. This version is much nicer looking than the commercial version and works very well with a nicer filter than the Sebo. I believe these will wind up very collectible and rare one day.

This unit has the name hoover eh50100, it does not even have a real name and is very rare.

 

[sebo_fan]

Its another version of the Hoover Insight.

See previous post about this Sebo clone if you haven't already:

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17076

Sebo of Germany are aware of it as far as I know as I contacted them on this vacuum cleaner and they weren't aware of it (in the previous link).

I think a small company like SEBO aren't that worried about it - they have better reliability worldwide with their commercial market which is their biggest market compared to the domestic range derived from a lot of their products.

 

[vegassucks]

I honestly believe Sebo is getting paid for their design and might have given their approval. The filter for the Hepa looks the same but even better because it has a rubber seal. Sebo likes making money, they do not care from who. The commercial unit is ugly with a 50 foot massive cord, who wants that in their house? This version is better looking than the Sebo.

 

[sebo_fan]

I dont know where you get your info from that Sebo likes "to make money and they do not care from who." Unless you can give evidence to back your claim, don't make claims that won't upset other members.

 

[vegassucks]

You are foolish to think that any company is in business to do anything but be profitable. I love Sebo products and believe they are the best commercial solution made. There are some vacuums that clean carpet better but none you would want in the hands of the Janitorial staff or house cleaners who beat everything up.

The proof Sebo likes to make money is the fact that their vacuums are rebadged under so many names. I know you worship Sebo and that is fine but they are not a Church and they are not a nonprofit organization.

 

[dysonman1]

A U.S. patent lasts for 18 years. I'm sure if Sebo did have a patent on the design it would be up by now. Hoover is getting ready to launch two of the Insight models, but with digital motors (no carbon brushes). I got a chance to see and use one about two months ago.

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

I read somewhere that Hoover waited until the Sebo patents expired (actually, I think I saw that in the Govacuums.com youtube video of the Insight)...  I prefer the black version...  this one just looks cheaper (maybe it's just the color) but it seems to have just a touch of the T series flavor to me...  I could be wrong, but just some of the shapes and contours remind me of those and everything about those screams cheap to me.  I tend to prefer the originals over copycats, but I've not seen one of these in person so I can't really evaluate it...  I did see that the Insight has a few features that are improved compared to the Sebo, but I can't remember what they were...

 

[sebo_fan]

I'm no fool when a brand clearly have design patents and a different way of design and engineering - but when a small company like that exists, it makes more sense to allow other brands to rebadge models paying license fees than be swallowed up by other companies.

I may worship SEBO but unlike Miele and Bosch they are not a large corporation - thus it makes sense to offer brands under different names rather than spend massively on promoting the single brand name worldwide. If you know anything of SEBO they are still a family owned business and its only been of recent since the 1990s that they have dabbled with the cylinder vacuum market, straying a little into the domestic market as opposed to their commercial uprights. IF they wanted total market domination, you'd see the SEBO brand name worldwide and those brands such as Diversey, Oreck and whoever else sells the commercial based uprights under a different name wouldn't get the machines anymore.

SEBO operates a bit like the Austin motor company's original Austin 7 - their Austin 7 was made all over the world and from other manufacturers such as BMW, American Austin and then copied by Nissan in Japan, though did not have license to. It may be a car, but the similarity between both the original SEBO design and the Austin 7 have a lot in common in terms of worldwide availability.

The Insight is a good SEBO copy though. Whether it appeals to general buyers over the existing SEBO design remains to be seen.

 

[vegassucks]

Small Company?

I do not know how small this company is , I bet they sell more vacuums than Miele. The Windsor vacuums are in almost every hotel in the United States.

 

[sebo_fan]

No, SEBO don't hold a big market compared to Miele - despite the industry using commercial uprights from Windsor - Miele sales are far bigger due to their large AND small appliances. Sales also include their commercial cleaning appliances in dentistry and hospitals.

 

[vegassucks]

I did not say that

I stated Sebo might sells more vacuums, not they are larger than Miele. As someone who used and owned Miele washer and dryers for years, I know how large of a company they are. I now prefer Fisher & Paykel washer and dryers by a mile and wish they would design a vacuum.

 

[sebo_fan]

You said you didn't know how small SEBO the company is and you "bet" they sell more vacuums than Miele.
You did not say "might," but used the word "bet" to emphasise your opinion.

I've responded saying that Miele sell far more.

Proof - Taken from the Canadian Miele site and SEBO's Germany site. 30 Million from Miele worldwide, 4 million from SEBO worldwide.

 

[sebo_fan]

Miele have never expressed an interest to develop commercial vacuums - they've left that to SEBO and other German brands such as Karcher and other smaller companies. Bosch also dabbled in commercial tub vacuums for a while.