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Yes 80 CFM is very decent. And you're correct anything above 90 CFM will make it difficult to push unless self propelled.

The Vorwerk has 100 CFM at the nozzle on the highest setting it becomes difficult to push.

Don't take anything that's said on here to heart it's just a bit of fun. Most of what I say is tongue in cheek 😛
 
I don't think the intention was to poke harmless fun. It's quite obvious that vacuumdevil intended for his comment to be demeaning. Anyways, I'm moving on now. The Aerus Electrolux canisters all pull around 90-100 CFM at the end of the second wand. I think it's the neck on the power nozzle that is restricting the airflow. I the Aerus Electrolux nozzle is still a great nozzle nonetheless, and maybe using one with a Miele canister would change my opinion on Miele canisters. I do not like the uprights though, and I never will.
 
The aerus Lux Platinum is a very good performing vacuum----BUT the circuit boards in these machines fail FREQUENTLY-I have two of these vacuums-each has had its board replaced TWICE under warrantee.Other vacuums I have with boards don't have this problem.
 
Adin Raiche...

Just ignore Alex, I think he gets a kick from being a senseless asshole toward his fellow collectors. He already had his panties in a bunch from people hating on his beloved Mieles.


Back to the topic at hand, I prefer Miele in terms of ergonomics, but I prefer Sebo for durability and ease of repair. However, someone said that Miele has tiny bags. They may appear to be small, but I can go as long as two months between bag changes if I were to only use my Miele in my house with two cats and a large dog. Their bags are very well designed and maintain cleaning performance as they fill up much better than most paper bags do. I think that Miele machines are overpriced on the American market compared to European markets, but they are good machines. The only issue that I've seen to be somewhat common with them relates to the hoses, I've seen a few that split near the handle. This is caused by improper storage of course, but it is something to note. I've never heard of a Miele with a burned out motor from normal use.

It's nice to long for a time when vacuum cleaners were simpler, but it's just like wishing the same thing for cars. Sure, they are all computer controlled and have seemingly unnecessary circuit boards now, but we benefit from these advances in ways that many of us likely don't realize.
 
Another service tech here..

Hate Miele, all I see of them is failed cord reels, endless failed cord reels, and many after just a few years of purchase or after previous cord reel replacement. I have an Electrolux LX with original cord reel accessory, and a 1205, never any trouble with them, or my GE swivel top, or even the current production Hoover cord rewind machines, eventually it won't go back in on a Hoover, but it never stops conducting like a Miele cord reel will. It's a darned expensive part too($100+), and a pretty penny for a labor charge as well.

@vacuumdevil, you've never seen the speed control circuit fail on a Miele? Really? It's a big repair expense as the board is mounted to the motor and not a separate part for ordering. What likely fails is the triac. I dabble with electronics of all ages and could fix that, but then I have to hunt down the proper one(preferably using the NTE cross reference).
 
speedqueen

When Miele warranties the motor, they also send out a circuit board since it is part of the assembly. Mind you, shops are wasting time that could have been spent making money on a vacuum without these problems. I remember I has a red Dynamic U1 where the brushroll motor would cut out every time you turned it to the left. This thing was 3 years old and after replacing a bunch of parts at Miele's discretion that were not covered, (parts warranty expired) the machine still didn't work. We ended up telling the customer to live with the issue. I probably had about 16 hours of labor into it and I just wanted to smash it in pieces.
 
@crazykirbydude sorry don't take offense. I'm not trying to offend you or belittle you and anyway.
Legally you are a child at 17 those are the facts.

@myles_v Don't stokke the fire calling somebody a child who is legally a child is not an insult. Not by a long shot.




@speedqueen are you speaking of the trizact board inside the motor?
That parts change as a whole assembly with a motor. Once the red light turns solid just change the part as the engineers intended.


@repairman Do you have the Miele S7 repair DVD?
Did you attend Miele dealer training on the s7?
16 hours of Labor my heart goes out to you.
 
@vacuumdevil

You just made my point for me, when a simple little part like a triac($2-5) fails instead of even a whole board being replaced, you have to replace the entire motor and board as a whole expensive assembly, "as the engineers intended".

Triacs can be sensitive components to power surges too, sometimes the usual protection of just a varistor/MOV/Voltage Dependent Resistor just isn't enough to keep the triac from being cooked by a small spike.

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Maybe I’m a rare breed but I don’t care about reliability with most things, as long as performs well, I own four Mieles and have not had any issues but they are in rotation. If it broke I would get it fixed, the way I look at it that I’m helping keep the dealer in business after the sale lol. If I was a dealer I might be annoyed by machines coming in for the same problem all the time, but then you have to remind yourself that at least you’re getting business and it can’t all be about sales especially in this economy where most people don’t frequent vac stores.
 
NOT getting involved in anything, but..................

everyone is entitled to his/her opinions. THAT is WHY we convene in here: to share, trade, laugh, teach, etc. As you know, I'm all Hoover. However, I'd never bash another collector, vacuum company, etc. In the 13 years I'm in here, I've never done that. Check the archives. I'm not perfect, either. But, I feel we should always welcome input, and, young men, (17), have the same right to express in here.
There are lots of 'other' vacuums about which I know very little. I rely on the other members for correct info. Sometimes, it's crystal clear. Other times, it's false. So, I've learned: everything in here is not always "Gospel". As the reporter said, "If your mother says she loves you, check it out".
Let's carry on civilly.
 
I have a U1 Jazz upright and C3 Alize cannister... for the C3 I have nearly every powered and unpowered hose and attachment. My only repair issue was after a year my SEB236 electric power head had the mechanical height adjuster stop working and that was fixed under warranty.

Yes, I'm a Miele fan-boy, and really like how the vacuums perform in general but LOVE how the bags perform. I love that after years of use the bag compartment is spotless, it doesn't even need wiped out. Despite being small, the bag holds a lot.

But as a realist I will admit the U1 can be a bit unwieldy. It is relegated to use on a single floor where I have wall-to-wall carpet and it behaves admirably in that very defined situation. I will admit if I try to vacuum larger stiff pieces of debris they can clog the vacuum head inlet... has happened twice to me over a few years. Actually my wife was vacuuming to create the clog as I would know better not to try to vacuum such debris, but I discovered and cleaned things out. I also own a Sebo Felix and if I could have only 1 it would be the Felix, although I wish it had a headlight.

I'm not a huge fan of cannister vacs as I find pulling the cannister around a house with a lot of corners and tight spaces a bit of a burden, but for versatility of dust/debris pickup in any situation my C3 is truly outstanding. I really love how the hard floor parquet attachment performs.

All I know is vs. when I had a single Dyson DC14 for years to clean the same house my house seems and is a lot cleaner, I don't have sneezing fits after vacuuming, keeping my vacuums clean is not a disgusting chore and I now have versatile tools for all my dusting/vacuuming needs. I love the wonders of a Magic Eraser on my vacuums so they all look as good as the day I bought them.
 
Vacuumdevil

I am not trained, but my coworker is. He couldn't figure out the issue either. We have the DVD and we couldn't find any information on this issue. None of the technicians at Miele knew what was going on either. I thought it was wiring but they said that wasn't the problem. I honestly don't know what happened or how the customer reacted. I was on vacation and my boss called to tell me that the machine was given back to the customer. Never heard anything after that and that happened around June 2019.
 

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