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sebo_fan
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Its a bit more than what you like...
Well, its a bit more than that if you buy everything yourself and don't have lucky parents.
Trying out these vacuums are all very well if you have a franchise company to go to where you can try them out. Not all brands will be available though.
Well, its a bit more than that if you buy everything yourself and don't have lucky parents.
Trying out these vacuums are all very well if you have a franchise company to go to where you can try them out. Not all brands will be available though.
I didn't mean it like that
I meant That's the machine That you would like to get And save up for And it's always best to try and test out the machine before you buy it Like you said some people don't have Companies where they Cannot test them. some machines Aren't available to view. I buy my machines by selling Doing up Dysons I'm selling some of my collection.
I meant That's the machine That you would like to get And save up for And it's always best to try and test out the machine before you buy it Like you said some people don't have Companies where they Cannot test them. some machines Aren't available to view. I buy my machines by selling Doing up Dysons I'm selling some of my collection.
hi-loswitch98
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Dyson Boy, I do the same.
I am however saving up for a Dyson which I am going to purchase this year. I have wanted a new Dyson for a couple of years now & am interested in their technology.
I am however saving up for a Dyson which I am going to purchase this year. I have wanted a new Dyson for a couple of years now & am interested in their technology.
uksausage
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Vax
I have both the Vax mach air and the mach air 3. The original mach air is a far superior vacuum compared to the air 3. With house of many cats and the dog I need something strong and reliable. The mach air is a solid built machine, the plastic doesn't warp in use, the filtration on mine is excellent, the multi cyclones work amazingly well and don't let the pet hair through to clog the filter, the multi tool is quite solid and in my videos on you tube you will see that even when crammed full if crap it still picks up. The air 3 is a different story The build quality is crap the plastic bends and distorts in use. It feels like parts will snap when using it, the cyclones are awfull I can only do half my lounge before I have to take it apart and clean the filters because it lets so much hair and dust through, the actuall handle is so flimsy compared to the mach air it also doesn't stay attached to the hose when using the tools, it's also quite heavy in use, the one good thing it has going for it, is the bristles on the brush roll are a lot stiffer. Oh yeah the multi tool Is crap as well they have taken the bristles from the duster brush and replaced them with awfull red bristles and reduced the amount by half. It really is a poorly designed machine
My air 3 has been replaced by Vax 3 times due to the machine and it's body failing.
This is my two penneth I just thought I'd share the pros and cons of both machines. One other thing on my mach air the extension hose is always attached. If you plug it in at the bottom and bring it up and over the the dust bin it doesn't get in the way. You can see this in my video as well
I have both the Vax mach air and the mach air 3. The original mach air is a far superior vacuum compared to the air 3. With house of many cats and the dog I need something strong and reliable. The mach air is a solid built machine, the plastic doesn't warp in use, the filtration on mine is excellent, the multi cyclones work amazingly well and don't let the pet hair through to clog the filter, the multi tool is quite solid and in my videos on you tube you will see that even when crammed full if crap it still picks up. The air 3 is a different story The build quality is crap the plastic bends and distorts in use. It feels like parts will snap when using it, the cyclones are awfull I can only do half my lounge before I have to take it apart and clean the filters because it lets so much hair and dust through, the actuall handle is so flimsy compared to the mach air it also doesn't stay attached to the hose when using the tools, it's also quite heavy in use, the one good thing it has going for it, is the bristles on the brush roll are a lot stiffer. Oh yeah the multi tool Is crap as well they have taken the bristles from the duster brush and replaced them with awfull red bristles and reduced the amount by half. It really is a poorly designed machine
My air 3 has been replaced by Vax 3 times due to the machine and it's body failing.
This is my two penneth I just thought I'd share the pros and cons of both machines. One other thing on my mach air the extension hose is always attached. If you plug it in at the bottom and bring it up and over the the dust bin it doesn't get in the way. You can see this in my video as well
sebo_fan
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David - do you find that sometimes the Air3 doesn't lock up properly when the handle is made to go into the locked position after use? That was the main issue I found at Currys that put me off that model. Much prefer the simpler design of the Reach model.
I am not sure if they are available in the UK, but you might try to hunt down some of LG's new bagless uprights. In Consumer Reports testing, the LG Kompressor LuV350p actually performed better on carpets than any of the Dysons. Here is CR's summary of the vac's test results:
"Superb carpet cleaning makes this Kompressor model one of the best bagless uprights for carpets. You also get excellent bare-floor cleaning, along with a brush on/off switch (to safeguard bare floors and prevent scattered debris). And sure to its name, a revolving blade compresses what's in the bin for added capacity and easier emptying--though emptying a bagless vac's bin can be a dusty, messy chore. And airflow for tools was only mediocre. Among upright brands, LG has consistently been among the top performers over the past several years.
High Points
• Excels at removing embedded dirt from carpets
• Performs well when cleaning bare floors, ideal for kitchens, bathrooms, and hardwood floors
• Does well at picking up pet hair, useful if you have a cat or dog
• Excels at capturing all the dust it picks up, important if you have allergies or other respiratory illnesses
• Has a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattering of dust and debris
Low Points
• Requires manually emptying the bin, which can be messy and sometimes presents problems for those with allergies or other respiratory issues
• Lacks a manual pile-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface
• Lacks suction control, which helps protect drapes when using tools
• Maneuvering with swivel head feels heavy on the wrist "
"Superb carpet cleaning makes this Kompressor model one of the best bagless uprights for carpets. You also get excellent bare-floor cleaning, along with a brush on/off switch (to safeguard bare floors and prevent scattered debris). And sure to its name, a revolving blade compresses what's in the bin for added capacity and easier emptying--though emptying a bagless vac's bin can be a dusty, messy chore. And airflow for tools was only mediocre. Among upright brands, LG has consistently been among the top performers over the past several years.
High Points
• Excels at removing embedded dirt from carpets
• Performs well when cleaning bare floors, ideal for kitchens, bathrooms, and hardwood floors
• Does well at picking up pet hair, useful if you have a cat or dog
• Excels at capturing all the dust it picks up, important if you have allergies or other respiratory illnesses
• Has a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattering of dust and debris
Low Points
• Requires manually emptying the bin, which can be messy and sometimes presents problems for those with allergies or other respiratory issues
• Lacks a manual pile-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface
• Lacks suction control, which helps protect drapes when using tools
• Maneuvering with swivel head feels heavy on the wrist "
sebo_fan
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Sadly it hasn't yet come to the UK. All LG UK appear to list are their robotic vacuums at their UK website. There's every possibility that it may well come to the UK but I don't think it will be cheap to buy.
uksausage
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@sebo fan
Yeah I do find the same problem, its a real pain in the ass When you think the handle is up and locked you turn away and the poxy thing crashes to the floor. It's actually really top heavy and quite hard sometimes to get it to click back in the upright position. The normal mach air is so much easier and so much more sturdy
David
Yeah I do find the same problem, its a real pain in the ass When you think the handle is up and locked you turn away and the poxy thing crashes to the floor. It's actually really top heavy and quite hard sometimes to get it to click back in the upright position. The normal mach air is so much easier and so much more sturdy
David
adamthemieleman
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I hope it comes to the UK, it and the cylinders look brilliant, much better than some of the rubbish we have at the moment.
I don't think it will be cheap Ry, it's $400 which in our money is around £300,not cheap and definitely in Dyson territory.
I don't think it will be cheap Ry, it's $400 which in our money is around £300,not cheap and definitely in Dyson territory.
keiththomas
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Well Interesting what about Morphy Richards Uprights like below
http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...Lift-Away-Bagless-Upright-Vacuum-Cleaner.html
http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...oses-Suction-Family-Pets-Bagless-Upright.html
I tried the globe and was not impressed it blew air out of the front of the machine which took longer to vacuum the dust particles at currys I would be £60.00 Not £119.00 they were asking for. Interested in your View Guys
http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...Lift-Away-Bagless-Upright-Vacuum-Cleaner.html
http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...oses-Suction-Family-Pets-Bagless-Upright.html
I tried the globe and was not impressed it blew air out of the front of the machine which took longer to vacuum the dust particles at currys I would be £60.00 Not £119.00 they were asking for. Interested in your View Guys
sebo_fan
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The Morphy Richards Lift Away is based on the U.S Shark Navigator and seems to be very popular. Roger from You Tube (he is known as Sensotronic on here) has done a superb video review of that model.
However I'd like to see if it can fit under a bed, like the Vax Mach Air can, and I don't like the look of the MR Lift Away, but that's down to personal reasons.
I'm surprised that the Hoover "blew out dust" though as it has an additional filter above the motor and demo models are notorious for being abused. As a previous Which member and subscriber, don't believe in everything that Which promise or print - they boost particular Miele vacuums by individual model numbers and slate other Miele vacuums from the same range just because of a different floor head design or filter...
Also end of the day you only get 2 year guarantee with the MR products compared to others.
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However I'd like to see if it can fit under a bed, like the Vax Mach Air can, and I don't like the look of the MR Lift Away, but that's down to personal reasons.
I'm surprised that the Hoover "blew out dust" though as it has an additional filter above the motor and demo models are notorious for being abused. As a previous Which member and subscriber, don't believe in everything that Which promise or print - they boost particular Miele vacuums by individual model numbers and slate other Miele vacuums from the same range just because of a different floor head design or filter...
Also end of the day you only get 2 year guarantee with the MR products compared to others.
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ultraperformer
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I have the purple version of the MR it grooms the carpet really well and isn't too noisy it actually has a very nice sounding motor. For an upright it does well on hard floor too, downsides for me are the short hose but you are supposed to lift the main unit off the floorhead and carry it when you are dusting but I find that inconvenient. Also the filter gets dirty very quickly as it is only a single cyclone. I posted on another thread that Vax have now brought out a similar model now, it's on the Argos website and that has multiple cyclones and a longer hose but it is pricey at the moment.
floor-a-matic
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Is TriStar or Filter Queen still available in the UK? Both will outperform ANY bagless "plasti-vac"
sebo_fan
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Keith - did you decide in the end?
As Benny responded earlier, wouldn't you want to go with a bagged upright like the Panasonic uprights including the recent 1200 watt "Optiflow" bagged upright?
As Benny responded earlier, wouldn't you want to go with a bagged upright like the Panasonic uprights including the recent 1200 watt "Optiflow" bagged upright?
turbo500
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it's gotta be a Dyson.
That may have been true 5 years ago, but since the patent expired on the dual cyclone Vax, Hoover, Morphy Richards and Electrolux have all offered multi-cyclonic no loss of suction cleaners, often at half the price and with longer guaruntees.
That may have been true 5 years ago, but since the patent expired on the dual cyclone Vax, Hoover, Morphy Richards and Electrolux have all offered multi-cyclonic no loss of suction cleaners, often at half the price and with longer guaruntees.
keiththomas
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Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest
keiththomas
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Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest
sebo_fan
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IM quite surprised at your response. You seemed to be of the mind that Hoover wasn't good enough for you - what has changed now?
You've been given quite a few brands and a few choices here, yet at the same time when relying on "reputation" how are you basing your decisions?
As far as I'm concerned, all bagless vacs chuck dirt back into the room. But then that's my opinion after owning so many.
You've been given quite a few brands and a few choices here, yet at the same time when relying on "reputation" how are you basing your decisions?
As far as I'm concerned, all bagless vacs chuck dirt back into the room. But then that's my opinion after owning so many.
