Alertnative Bagless to Dyson

[keiththomas]

Well Interesting what about Morphy Richards Uprights like below

http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...Lift-Away-Bagless-Upright-Vacuum-Cleaner.html

http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...oses-Suction-Family-Pets-Bagless-Upright.html

I tried the globe and was not impressed it blew air out of the front of the machine which took longer to vacuum the dust particles at currys I would be £60.00 Not £119.00 they were asking for. Interested in your View Guys

 

[sebo_fan]

The Morphy Richards Lift Away is based on the U.S Shark Navigator and seems to be very popular. Roger from You Tube (he is known as Sensotronic on here) has done a superb video review of that model.


 





 


However I'd like to see if it can fit under a bed, like the Vax Mach Air can, and I don't like the look of the MR Lift Away, but that's down to personal reasons. 


 


I'm surprised that the Hoover "blew out dust" though as it has an additional filter above the motor and demo models are notorious for being abused. As a previous Which member and subscriber, don't believe in everything that Which promise or print - they boost particular Miele vacuums by individual model numbers and slate other Miele vacuums from the same range just because of a different floor head design or filter...


 


Also end of the day you only get 2 year guarantee with the MR products compared to others.


 

[this post was last edited: 1/7/2014-05:48]

 

[ultraperformer]

I have the purple version of the MR it grooms the carpet really well and isn't too noisy it actually has a very nice sounding motor. For an upright it does well on hard floor too, downsides for me are the short hose but you are supposed to lift the main unit off the floorhead and carry it when you are dusting but I find that inconvenient. Also the filter gets dirty very quickly as it is only a single cyclone. I posted on another thread that Vax have now brought out a similar model now, it's on the Argos website and that has multiple cyclones and a longer hose but it is pricey at the moment.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Is TriStar or Filter Queen still available in the UK? Both will outperform ANY bagless "plasti-vac"

 

[sebo_fan]

Keith - did you decide in the end?

As Benny responded earlier, wouldn't you want to go with a bagged upright like the Panasonic uprights including the recent 1200 watt "Optiflow" bagged upright?

 

[parwaz786]

I dont think any bagless is better than a Dyson, as if you want something like a Dyson, it's gotta be a Dyson.
Dyson is a much reliable vac.
Why not get a Refurbished Dyson like what George mentioned? (Dysondestijl)

 

[turbo500]

it's gotta be a Dyson.

That may have been true 5 years ago, but since the patent expired on the dual cyclone Vax, Hoover, Morphy Richards and Electrolux have all offered multi-cyclonic no loss of suction cleaners, often at half the price and with longer guaruntees.

 

[keiththomas]

Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest

 

[keiththomas]

Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest

 

[sebo_fan]

IM quite surprised at your response. You seemed to be of the mind that Hoover wasn't good enough for you - what has changed now?


 


You've been given quite a few brands and a few choices here, yet at the same time when relying on "reputation" how are you basing your decisions?


 


As far as I'm concerned, all bagless vacs chuck dirt back into the room. But then that's my opinion after owning so many.

 

[parwaz786]

As far as I'm concerned, all bagless vacs chuck dirt bac

Dyson actually has the best filtration out of any bagless vacuum!

 

[keiththomas]

Well I forget to mention I see yesterday an off for £99.99 at Tesco a Vax and at Argos a Vax Mach Air they claim reduced from £199.99 to £99.99. I will see if that is any good. The one at Argos has grey and purple plastic the one at Tesco a Grey Orange and darker plastic. Like everything chinese made but comes with a 6 year warranty. Yes Dyson I know as have two dyson a cylinder and cordless DC34, good machines and the five year parts and labour warranty is good, But the upright is used a lot less but it will be changed at some point.

 

[parwaz786]

Dysondestijl is correct If you want a cheap bagless alternative to Dyson, just get a refurbished one I recommend Manchestervacs.


They  do the best refurbishing out of any other people out there


They are also the better option because if you were to get a Vax mach air, a DC04 Dyson priced at £70 for example is a MUCH BETTER vacuum in every way apart from weight, but it is not made to be light Get a DC24 or DC25 is you want a non cumbersome vacuum.

 

[madabouthoovers]

The Vax mach Air reach at 99.99 is the best of the bunch - they are pretty good if you get one that's OK and free from manufacturing defects. They seem to get problems with the hoses detaching themselves from the screw in housings, and one I bought suffered from a defective rubber seal at the join between the flap door and the bottom of the internal dust tube, causing the cyclone action to stop and dirt to get sucked past the seal and clogging the pre-filter - I ended up wrapping sellotape round the top of the housing to hold the rubber seal tighter against the bottom flap door. Despite these 2 problems they are quite good and have 2 motors.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I agree with Steve - the 2 motors work really well. The amount of dust sucked up out of carpets with the brush was more so tan the Hoover Urepower.

 

[madabouthoovers]

tan the Hoover Urepower Hilo?

 

[madabouthoovers]

Here's my Mach Air Reach - I'd say its the one to go for

 

[sebo_fan]

See reply 5 and onwards. The Vax has already been mentioned. 


 


 

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Purepower! oops

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Than the Hoover Purepower! oops again. Bloody iPad.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Oh the joy of having a proper old fashioned wired modem, desktop, mouse and keyboard instead of a new-fangled iPad lol - I'm so old fashioned! Is there anyone left out there that uses desktops any more - or are you all wireless iPad or laptop users now?

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I have an Acer C710 Chromebook which is great for what I want it for. I will be upgrading to an iPad Mini from the 4th Generation soon though. My Dad still uses a desktop however.

 

[sebo_fan]

I have a Mac Mini for all my business. Laptop for everything else. Wouldn't get an iPad though.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

iPads take really good quality pictures plus connect up to a Wifi Printer & it is easy to print them off. You can get some really good apps but I really like the Mini to the regular sized version. I couldn't live without the Chromebook though. Google Chrome is great.

 

[sebo_fan]

Thing is, I'm into that many apps. Much prefer my Macbook.

 

[keiththomas]

The Vacuum is called the Vax Reach but it may be too small, So many machines but all have problems I might just have to get a Dyson in the End.

 

[dysondestijl]

It's clear you want a dyson so you might just be better off with a dyson

 

[sebo_fan]

Keith - what problems are there? The only thing "small" on the Vax Mach Air Reach is the dust bin = all of 1.5 litres and there's 200 air watts.

Now the cheapest Dyson upright that is selling at Currys UK is the DC25 with 220 air watts, a far heavier weight and a smaller dust bin capacity of 1.38 litres. It also has 7.5 metres cord length compared to the 12 metres length on the Vax Reach and 220 air watts. At 87dbl, the Dyson is also noisier than the 71bdl Vax and yet they both have the same motor.

Clearly what you think might be small might actually be bigger than you think!



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-a...gless-vacuum-cleaner-silver-21424019-pdt.html

 

[hi-loswitch98]

It depends how rough you are with your vacuum cleaners, for example with the DC40/41, I hate the cracking noise it makes when you have to pull the handle backwards to release it.

Vax on the other hand, providing you get one free from defects, they are good machines - the Mach Air. Despite the supposedly small dust bin, it took a go around my house to totally fill it up, I does depend on how dirty your floors are.

Then again you could go for a Hoover Turbopower Upright - model UTP1610. That has a stair stretch hose, 12m cord & a big dust bin (2.5 litres I think?). Currently £119.99.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I'd be tempted to wait till next week after the launch of the new Argos catalogue, as some of the new models online will then come down in price. I am waiting to see how much the Hoover Purepower replacement - the Enigma (same model - different colour) comes down to as its not gonna stay at £199.99


There are some interesting eco Hoover bagless models too worth considering, so hold fire till they go on promotion which I suspect will be next week when the new catalogue launches.


The Vax air Reach is currently 99.99 and that's a steal - but its only until Saturday, after which I'd imagine it will be either discontinued or back to full price as the new catalogue launches.