Aerus Vacuums

[eurekaprince]

Sweden's Electrolux is also now selling an electrically powered mini power nozzle which fits on most of their power nozzle canisters in North America. It's called the "@hand" power brush....see link below:



http://www.lowes.com/pd_302856-7382...294937087_?Ns=p_product_brand_name|1||p_produ

 

[floor-a-matic]

Lux SideKick PNs

The SideKick was also known as a RainbowMate (except the RM has a pigtail cord & no snap-lock mechanism)

SideKick II is also a TriStar MiniStar.

 

[danemodsandy]

Figures!

"SideKick II is also a TriStar MiniStar."

That makes sense, since Aerus and TriStar are owned by the same company.

 

[kirbylux77]

Pete, in addition to the slight styling changes & changes to the electrical connections to suit Kennmore's hose handles, they also put a flat belt on the Power Mate Jr, whereas the Sidekick & RainbowMate used cogged belts.

 

[petek]

Hmmmm didn't know that. I've got a Powermate version but I've never opened it up

 

[kirbyloverdan]

No the

Sidekick 3 is the Tristar mini star not the Sidekick 2 . Looks the same but it`s not .

 

[blackheart]

Sidekick II and Ministar

The ministar is the same as the newest sidekick for the guardian ultra, i know the sidekick II does not fit on the tristar. Gotta love those mini electric nozzles!

 

[kirbyloverdan]

I just said

the sidekick 3 is the mini star : )

 

[bimmer740]

I've owned many different machines over the years, I haven't been alive as long as some other members of this club or had as many vacs, but never the less I have owned many high-end machines. Miele's are fabulous machines, Kirby is my #1 choice for an upright, I'll never live without one and my VacuFlo system beats any portable/traditional vacuum I've had, but sometimes you just want to use a regular machine. With that said I have always owned an Aerus/Electrolux machine and they are the one I go back to again and again. They may not be the best at deep cleaning or filter as well as a Miele, but they last for many years and they are easy to use. Miele isn't necessarily difficult to use, at least not for people like us, but for the average person they can certainly be a bit complicated. A new Aerus machine may not be my number 1 choice if I was in the market for a new machine, but if they improved the current Guardian canister I just might change my mind. The Electrolux tank style machines and their L-shaped power nozzles are a tried and true design that makes them easy to use and steer around the house, and for me that makes using an Electrolux more enjoyable than any other canister vacs.

 

[venson]

@bimmer740

Hi,

Thanks for the broader view proving that for at least some of us it's not all about one brand or vacuum. However, the Electrolux/Aerus PN is not the only PN with an el.

Both Sebo and Lindhaus offer similar, and have more features. Before I purchased my Miele Capricorn I had a Miracle Mate that I'd acquired with out a power nozzle. I opted for adding on a Lindhaus PB14PRO. The price at the time -- 250 bucks -- was what it cost to buy a canister complete with everything but I sprang for it and was extremely pleased.

Albeit sans headlight, the PB14PRO offered a governed motor, height adjustment, a foot-operated lever to release the handle and a couple of small rollers to lessen chance of marring when getting up close and personal with walls and baseboards. The thing even had a small filter to keep dust out of its motor compartment. Better yet, like Sebo, it had a removable end cap that allowed for painless removal of the revolving brush. There was no fiddling with base plates or belts to get the brushroll in or out of the power nozzle.

Besides the pro-version, Lindhaus also offers PNs for non-commercial use with similar features. Had it not been that one, I went on to a Miele that's PN works perfectly well and, two, that there would have been need to go messing round with adapters and cords to get to fit onto my Miele, it would have made the trip south with me.

The investment was admittedly disproportionate but I saw far more value by way of workmanship in the PB14PRO than I seen in any power nozzle in quite some time. Unfortunately, I'm not of the miserly sort even though I should be. However, as far as I'm concerned, PB14PRO is the kind of power nozzle you bring when you show up at my door asking me for 1,700 bucks for the vacuum cleaner you've got in your hand.

I couldn't find any downloadable images of the model I had so I've linked to someone's website. Please be advised, I have no affiliation of any kind with Lindhaus or Vac Depot.

http://www.vacdepot.com/product-info/312

 

[Sanifan]

Lindhaus...

That Lindhaus looks similar but not identical to the one on my Lindhaus Healthcare Pro upright. I haven't used the Lindhaus enough to have a firm opinion on the PN. I do recall, however, a thread sometime back comparing Lindhaus and other PNs. I can't recall in what context.

The upshot was that folks preferred the Edgelift PN over the Lindhaus, though again, I don't recall which specific Lindhaus PN was being discussed. I do recall some folks having a bit of a low opinion of that particular Lindhaus PN. Maybe something about the brushroll not being agressive enough, or not enough airflow. Can't fully recall.

Having said that, I think the Lindhaus Home Healthcare is a pretty cool vac.

Maybe it's not productive to discuss with such shoddy recall about the specifics, but maybe it will jog someone's memory.

 

[pr-21]

Lindhaus Power Nozzle

I have used the Lindhaus Power Nozzles. They are very well built. The only thing I didn't like was there is a lot of dead space on the underneath side and I don't think they can edge clean as well, due to this. I do like the weight of the power nozzle, it has enough weight to groom the carpet well, without just gliding across the carpet.


 


 


 


Sincerely,


 


Bud Mattingly

 

[bimmer740]

@venson,
I think you may have misunderstood my post about the Electrolux L-shaped power nozzle. I wasn't implying that they are the only machine with that style nozzle, its just been a very recognizable feature of Electrolux/Aerus machines since it was introduced about 30 years ago on the Silverado.

I agree with you about the Miele power nozzle though, I had the 236 PN on my Red Velvet and it was probably one of the best I've ever used.

As far as the Lindhaus power nozzle goes, I really hate it. Please don't take offense to that, we all don’t love the same machines or accessories, which is what makes this club so interesting. I purchased the residential version, the PB14E brand new several years ago and I'm just glad I didn’t pay the full retail price. The Lindhaus is well made and for the most part it is very well thought out. However, for me if it doesn't clean well then it doesn’t matter how well constructed it may be. The brush roll is just awful considering the price of this p/n, and for all the time and money that must have been spent designing it they really missed the most important part of the entire nozzle, a well-designed high performance brush roll. Electrolux power nozzles certainly aren’t the best out there but I'll take a Lux PN over all the Lindhaus' electronic features, as the Lux can certainly clean much better than the Lindhaus.

 

[djtaylor]

I have a question about deep cleaning. I own a 1205, I love it... but, it's not a deep cleaner. Are later models better? Of those who LIKE Electrolux/Aerus vacuums, which models are more powerful and will deep clean carpets?
Thanks
Justin

 

[danemodsandy]

Justin:

Later models were better in some ways, and not as good in others. I own a Diamond Jubilee, which has a more powerful motor and develops much more suction than my 1205.

However, the PN-5 supplied with the Diamond Jubilee and other, later models through the Grand Marquise/Ultralux is not as deep a cleaner as earlier PN's, due to a "floating" design that was supposed to help the PN adjust to different carpets' pile heights. The PN-5 tends to ride the surface of carpet, rather than "biting" it to brush dirt from between the carpet's fibers.

All of that having been said, an Electrolux can still be an excellent choice for frequent vacuumers who have carpet that has been well-maintained.

If you want a PN canister capable of deep cleaning, I personally think very highly of the TriStar CXL. Mine was first used in a house previously maintained with a Kirby, and the schmutz it pulled up was phenomenal. That carpet was off-white, and a side benefit of the CXL was that it greatly extended the interval between steam cleanings. I should stress, though, that I'm a daily vacuumer; other people might have different results.

 

[danemodsandy]

P.S,, Justin:

My comments apply only through the Grand Marquise/Ultralux, which were the last of the metal-bodied machines. The later, plastic-bodied machines are not vacuums I have personal experience with, so someone else will have to chime in about those. Aerus has re-designed its power nozzle since the PN-5, and the new one may be a better performer.

 

[venson]

@bimmer740

I agree. We're all entitled to like what we like and buy what we want to buy bimmer740.

I have also owned the Electrolux Silverado but mine came with the rectangular cast-metal PN prior the plastic el-shape version. The paint job on mine matched the gray color of the cleaner. I do not recall seeing a chromed version of it until around the time the Super J came out.

My problem was yours in reverse it would seem. I've used many models but I've never been quite satisfied with the way the Electrolux power nozzles work on deep pile. They were certainly decent and adequate but that was about all. And, the el versions aren't really all that adjustable -- if the spring action that brings up the front of the PN up when you push down on the wand is an adjustment.

The Silverado ended up being kicked out of Dodge for a Hoover Dimension 1000 canister and was given to a friend. It somehow survived more than twenty years despite his cleaning person's best efforts to kill it.

The Lindhaus nozzle I purchased served quite well while I had it. I had it at my apartment and then my office for a time. It was used with a Miracle Mate and a Nilfisk 90 and it performed very well with either machine. Were I to ditch the Miele today, I'd be looking to add a Lindhaus nozzle onto what ever my replacement machine was to be if affordable. Next choices would either be a Kenmore-clone or Eureka-cloned PN. What machine did you use your Lindhaus PN with?

In any event, when I chose my Capricorn, now almost four years ago, I could have quite easily gone for the Lux/Aerus current at the time but it didn't register as a consideration for the reason I stated before. It's not hard to get money out of me but you must show up with something I can use.

 

[bimmer740]

@danemodsandy
I haven't used the very latest power nozzle from the Guardian Ultra, although I don’t know what has changed about it other than the LED headlight, but I have used those that came right before it. The Lux PN has improved since the DJ PN5 but I don’t know if its so much that the nozzle was "redesigned" as I personally haven't noticed that there is a marked significant difference between the internal structure of the different power nozzles. What does make a very noticeable and welcomed difference is the improved brush roll. Electrolux/Aerus improved the brush roll several years back by adding an extra "turn" to the chevron style roller, which added a significant amount of extra bristles. As far as I know this new brush roll can be used in all PN's from the PN5 up to the most current models.

Below is a picture of the new and old brush rolls. The one on top that is in the PN to my Epic 6000 is the new style brush roll, the one below is the old style which came out of my Renaissance circa 1994. I hope you are able to see the difference between the two, its much more noticeable in person.

BTW I have noticed your posts recently about your Tri-Star on this thread and a few others, and it really looks wonderful. I remember reading a few years ago about all the trouble you went through and buying parts from Tri-Star in Canada to restore it to like new condition. I've never used a Tri-Star before but it has certainly made me want to buy one

 

[bimmer740]

Venson, I use the Lindhaus with my VacuFlo 566Q central vac but its hardly been used in the past two years and just collects dust in a closet now. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree, as no one vac is a perfect fit for everyone.

You mentioned a Eureka power nozzle or clone of one, now you are talking! The Eureka Express power nozzle that has been used under different private labels and by several central vac companies, is a fantastic p/n. The VG3 brush roll does a great job cleaning carpets, it really digs the dirt out of the rug. And, its a straight foward and simple to use design. I have been using the Express power nozzle with my vac system which came from my mom's blue Eureka Express canister that she bought new in 1986. After 25 years though, the motor needs to be replaced but haven't gotten around to buying a new one yet.

 

[danemodsandy]

Steven:

My PN-5 has the improved brush roll, which did make a difference, but the "floating" feature still interferes with the brush roll's "bite," in my opinion. Sadly, the Diamond Jubilee has been in storage for a while; I haven't used it in a long time, because the PN-5 has to have a new bottom plate. One of the problems with the PN-5 is that the screw mounts for the bottom plate are built into the plastic of the plate. Works just fine until something jams the PN. Then, WHAMMO! - you end up with broken screw mounts. So, that's going to have to be fixed before I can use the DJ and its PN-5 again, and frankly, it's not my favorite machine, so I have been lazy about it.

Thanks for the compliments on the TriStar. Do not EVER follow my example on that machine, LOL. It was kind of rough when I got it, and I decided nothing less than perfection would do. Set me back WAY more money than I should have spent - around $400. If I had it to do over again, I'd hold out for one in better condition. Oh, well, live and learn. And it is a pleasure to own and use.