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I'm told that if you want to keep friends and significant others you should never discuss religion or politics. I have to add one more category -- Electrolux. Nonetheless, I'll say what I think and be done with it. After all I had my very own Silverado back in the day -- not ot mention an LX and a 1205.

The Aerus (erstwhile Electrolux) upright is just what should have been a canister lumped onto a power nozzle. Fancy things up and call it a two-motor system if you will but I have never thought much of the nozzle's deep-cleaning and grooming ability -- now or before. I have swapped out PNs for other machines with Lindhaus, Kenmore and Eureka product but still pass on the Lux PN as a good substitute. I will admit it appears current brushrolls bear a little more coverage by what appears to be more brush tufts.

Electrolux/Aerus uprights are vacuums that would leave me feeling uncomfortable if I slipped up on my weekly vacuum schedule for long.

What gets to me even worse, I'd rather thought the Aerus people would pick up the ball and run on toward bigger and better things but my feeling is that all I'm seeing out of them is rehash. They're doing nothing new nor are looking to do anything new despite -- "Formerly known as Electrolux and manufacturer of Electrolux Vacuums from 1924-2003, Aerus remains committed to providing products and services that enhance the wellness and comfort of its customers and their families."

I'd rather be hearing, "They were absolutely great folks but just wait until you see what we've got for you now."

For one, they could have (should have) worked the HEPA to fit in a more streamlined fashion but in truth it is the only place it can be on the vac as is. As well, despite the awkward arrangement, where else can you put the suction port for attachments?

However, as with every other brand, there are users who swear by it. Why? Because its an "Electrolux." Good for Aerus, considering its pricing, it's still got a hook to rope 'em in with. I still bank on doing better for less and getting better features in the process.
 
Well

I would rather buy a miele not riccar or aerus. I might be 20 but in my 20 years ive seen the bad and good
 
I Agree:

That Aerus has been greatly lacking in innovation since splitting off from Electrolux. The current lower-line canisters have been around for, what - twenty years? - and are not up to current standards of filtration expected in a premium vacuum. The TOL machine is Lexan, which is a bit off-putting in such a high-priced machine; it makes the discriminating consumer feel that it's not as good as a metal-bodied machine.

Moreover, the shapes and colors are dowdy. The TOL canister is a two-tone blue that looks downright cheap; only a dyed-in-the-wool Aerus fan would even understand why it costs what it does, since it's not even as attractive as a Kenmore. Frankly, it looks like something from the former Soviet Union.

And the Aerus purchasing experience is not good. Stores are closing (we just lost the one here, though the owner still will come to see you for an in-home demo), and when you do find one, it's not an exciting or fun place to be.

I think shapes and colors need some serious updating, and that the machines should be available outside the Aerus stores. Filtration should be improved, and places found for the HEPA filter that don't make the machines look clunky.

And frankly, the name "Aerus" needs to go. It doesn't say anything to a consumer who doesn't know about the brand's heritage, and that damn amoeba they use for a logo means nothing.

The company owning Aerus also owns TriStar, and I've long thought that they ought to sell both machines at retail, canning the "home demo" model for TriStar, which has generated more consumer complaints than you can shake a stick at. It would be nice to see TriStar get more sales, and I think it would also benefit Aerus, since there would be an even more expensive machine in the store than the TOL Guardian.
 
Sandy

I think you should check out the Aerus website . The machines are 100% white blue has been gone for at least two years . The Guardian Ultra has replaced the Guardian and the chunky HEPA filter is gone . I love metal vacuums but we all know customers complain about them being heavy and getting dented if dropped down the stairs . The newest Kirby coming out will also be plastic . It`s sad but metal vacuums are a thing of the past . Aerus is the same company it always was it`s just that Eureka took back the name once the real Electrolux (Aerus) built the reliable vacuum name . Eureka in Europe has always been called Electrolux here in the US they used the name Eureka . Now Eureka is trying to pawn off the Electrolux name here in the US as if they are the original Elactrolux now known as Aerus . They tell that lie while selling the Eurekaluxes on QVC .
 
They are hard to maneuver and snowplow terribly, not to mention they are not very powerful. However, they are well built for the most part (besides plastic on the handles cracking) and seem to last a long time.... the bags are easy to change.
 
I really think

no one own`s the newest Aerus vacuums as they have been improved with more powerful motors .

They clean very well now and are very light and easy to use .

Owning Aerus (Electrolux) plastic machines since the 80`s and many of my family members own Aerus
and not one of us ever had any of the plastic crack or break .

Long lasting , powerful , quality built machines made in the USA .
 
Dan:

I stand corrected on the re-design of the Aerus machines. They are more attractive than before, though still a little bland.

I think it's a measure of how seriously fugly the previous Guardian was that I NEVER went back to the Website until you encouraged it.
 
Too much confusion!

The REAL USA Electrolux (Aerus) should continue to be branded Electrolux.

What the UK calls Electrolux (US calls it Eureka) should be called Eureka or EurekaLux.

TriStar should go back & make the old style CXL & sell them as a lower-tier vac (at vac shops) & the MG Series as a higher-tier at in-home demos.

Aerus (Electrolux USA) should be sold at dept. stores, if any more Aerus stores close (which I hope does NOT happen) like they did during the mid/late 1980s & early 1990s

I don't really know which of these events should occur, or should it not?
 
I agree

100% with you Erik .

Josh that`s a very childish remark especially if you dont own any of the newest Aerus vacuums .

I thought this was supposed to be a discussion site not a bash a brand I hate site .

Sandy I always liked the old style Guardian I guess thats why we have so many brands to choose from .
 
I went to the AERUS site, too, and downloaded the pdf Owner Manuals for the three canisters.


 


What I find interesting is that the re-design is in fact a resurrection of the pre-Renaisance style body of the 1984 2100, right down to the bumper strips that wrap around on to the bag cover and motor/cord-reel cover cap.


 


The two lower tier models - Classic and Legacy - use the same basic filter pad over the exhaust port as every plastic body Luxs dating back to Canada's AP series from 1973. The Legacy has exposed tool storage on the slightly raised filter cover.


The top of the line Guardian Ultra uses the same body as the others but adds a much larger HEPA filter under a humped hinged lid.


 


Basically, the same reliable Electrolux cylinder as always...sheathed in high quality plastics...with improved motor.


Electrolux body molds have always been of a robust wall thickness and I don't recall ever seeing a cracked one because the formula they use has a flexible vinyl component same as GE's CYCOLAC..


 


What AERUS/Electrolux has done runs contrary to modern business canon - abandoning the Renaissance, they returned to a form factor that served them well for decades, rather than jump on the latest fad wagon..


And no, they could not be saving $ using the old tooling - those dies & molds would be well worn out years ago.


At least they did away with the afterthought stick-on HEPA box of the last Renaissance.


I would like to add the first Renaissance  with the blue trim to my collection some day - I like the smooth Typhoon submarine looks.


 


Dave - Electrolux first and foremost.

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Thank you Dave

You are absolutely right simple is best .

Aerus/Electrolux has been around all these years because they just build one of the best vacuums on the market .

If they were junk as some unexperienced non Aeus owning people think they are they would have gone outof business years ago .
 
I Dunno....

....About reviving the CXL design. It might appeal to some consumers with retro tastes, but it was dropped for a good reason; it was just getting too dated for most people.

What I think COULD benefit TriStar is giving the MG series a better motor, and wands and tools of higher quality, preferably metal. If they did that, there would be a huge differential for consumers. The MG design isn't necessarily a bad one; it's just compromised by second-rate accessories, which should not be the case in a vacuum costing that much.

One of the HUGE satisfactions in owning a CXL is that metal floor tool and rug tool. Durable as can be.
 
I think many of you have this Electrolux/Eureka corporate thing backwards.

Sweden's Electrolux invented the name and the canister vac concept and provided North America with Electrolux vacs up until the American division cut its ties with Europe when Consolidated Foods bought it in 1968. Sweden's Electrolux bought Eureka Williams in 1974, at which point Eureka became just one of Electroluxes many worldwide brandnames, along with Frigidaire, Progress, Volta and Zanussi. Eureka does not own Electrolux, it's the other way around.

In 2000, Sweden's Electrolux bought back the right to use it's own name in North America, but allowed the North American division to keep using the name until 2007. Since 2007, it has been illegal for any other company in America to use the Electrolux name, and I think that is completely logical. The entire world knows Electrolux as a Swedish appliance company, not a door-to-door power nozzle canister vac maker.

Since 1968, these have been two totally independent companies. The only commonality was the combination dusting brush+upholstery nozzle sold by both. I understand the nostalgic fondness for the quality vacuum cleaners produced by the American and Canadian Electrolux companies between 1968 and 2000, but they were in essence only borrowing a name from a Swedish company whose roots in the vac business go far deeper than the North American companies. They had a right to do with their name whatever they wish. They could have bought the North American vac plants and designs in 2000 as well, but they chose not to since they already had bought a company with a much larger market share (Eureka).

If there is anything to lament, it is not the removal of the Electrolux name from the cylinder vacs Americans have come to love. It is the almost total disappearance of the Eureka Company at the hands of the Swedish company. The Eureka name we see now is but a childish-looking label on very cheap vacs made overseas. The least Electrolux could have done is left the Eureka name on all those classic Sanitaire vacs.

If you really want to bring some life and innovation back to the company that's now called Aerus, Aerus should change it's name to "Lux North America" and should fully integrate with Europe's Lux International and then you might see vacs like this in the Aerus stores:



 
@eurekaprince . . .

I would love to see the Lux International's "Intelligence" here but, to my understanding, the company has an agreement of some sort with Aerus not to sell here in the State. I think they are nonetheless somehow connected as both use the "Clean Home" banner for their vacuum pages online.

If we're to be exacted exorbitant rates for product, not only high performance but a little flash and dash never hurt.

Though I think it would need a power nozzle upgrade for the American market, I like the "Intelligence" because, among other things, it employs pre-filtering as well as post- which Aerus does not. That prevailed in prior Lux International canisters too.

Though Canadian models had them, American Electroluxes had quite a long run from at least since the G without even post filters until the Renaissance brought them back into play I believe.

I have been trying for a while to learn how much of a connection there is between Lux International and our Aerus. I know Lux International has a connection with a European brand Eureka/Forbes.
 
Bought one

Well I bought an Aerus Upright.... I will agree with earlier comment, yes the purchasing process at the store is not too pleasant, almost like your negotiating on a car. However, the machine seems to work nicely. I did compare it to the Miele S7 which has on board tools, but I felt it would not go low enough to fit under some low furniture. Contemplated on getting the Sebo Felix, but felt harder to push on thick carpets. Also, I noticed you get longer warranties with the Aerus brand.
 
My thoughts...

Electrolux/Eureka/Aerus has to be the most convoluted and confusing corporate history that exists. As an Electrolux newb, I found I had to ease my way into the sea of information regarding the companies and their products.

It doesn't help that there seem to be endless variations of the canister models over the years. They are all similar and there's a lot of information to juggle, so until you really commit to getting into it, it's all very confusing.

I currently have two tanks models. An Electrolux Ultralux 80th Anniversary with a VM3 motor, and a gold colored metal model which I understand may be a 50th Anniversary model. It's interesting, but for a while I guess Aerus/Lux continued with the body style that is now called the Classic. I believe this is when they went to the white and blue color scheme. The difference between those models and the current Classic, apart from the color perhaps, seems to be the wands, hose, and PN's were redisigned for a more modern look. I think this is when they went to the gas pump handle. Also, the Classic probably uses a different motor than those Luxes.

I guess after that they went to the style with the big box Hepa filter. I'm ambivalent about that styling. I like the clean look of the white and blue, but I agree there's something plasticky and cheapish feeling about it.

Now they have the three current styles that Dave was kind enough to post the documents for. One of them is the Classic, which is actually identical to my Ultralux (from what I can tell in the diagram), save for the color and perhaps an improved motor in the current vac. The wands and PN are the older style, with the metal lower half of the wand barrel. Interesting they went all the way back to this style.

I'm ambivalent about the other two current styles. The Legacy has that ramped hump. I think it looks a little to much like a van or an RV for my taste. The Guardian ULTRA, I feel, looks too cumbersome at the front end. Like a strange whale or something. And the silver on top seems like it will look shoddy once is get scuffed and scraped. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Having said that, I would jump on any of them if I found a great price.

I like the styling of the Classic/Ultralux a lot. I'm not too jazzed about the ultimate performance of the PN (the current Classic may have an improved brushroll though). I do really like my Ultralux a lot for bare floor and above floor cleaning.

I notice that Aerus gives a CFM spec of 145 for the Guardian ULTRA. That's a lot. It pretty much matches the CFM specs of a Sanitaire upright. There are no CFM figures given for the Legacy or Classic, however. Anyone know why that is? Incidentally, all three have the same Airwatt specs. Could the Legacy and Classic have the same CFM given the Airwatts are the same?
 
Hey there Venson! See the link below for the global picture of Lux International - it shows Aerus as part of their global "partnerships."

Lux International was originally the direct sales/door-to-door division of Sweden's Electrolux. The division was sold to a Swiss company, and now operates independently of Sweden's Electrolux. Indeed the large Indian Eureka Forbes Group is part of Lux International. I guess they somehow got away with buying the rights to the Eureka name for use outside of North America! :-)

http://www.luxinternational.com/around_the_world/
 
@eurekaprince . . .

Thanks for the link to the map. I was very interested to find that Mexico is marked red as Lux territory. Wonder if rowing across the Gulf of Mexico could get me the Lux "Intelligence." They use 120-volt AC I'm told :)

Venson
 

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