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mixman

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OK, I am a little interested in this vacuum. I read that it had problems at first but have they been fixed? How good is this really and is it as good as the TOL Miele's, Sebos and Tacony's?

Another question....Where can I get this cheaper than usual? Used or demos are fine. Don't want to pay $2,000, heck don't want to pay $1,500 either.
 
I'd be very interested to hear views on this cleaner too.
From videos I've seen of it, it looks like a very well built machine with strong airflow excellent filtration and a long warranty but for the price it should be all these! 😀
 
I love mine. This pic is the late Dan Moses, trying out my then-brand-new Guardian Platinum against the 1937 model 30 in the 1930's room of the Vacuum Cleaner Museum. I've had it for years now, use it all the time (with HEPA bags) and LOVE it. Love the flip over rug/floor tool that's still high quality along with the high quality dusting brush/upholstery tool. I love how quiet it is. Fit and finish are above reproach. My favorite feature is the 'automatic' suction setting, as quiet as a model G.

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guardian platinum

I have tried one of these as well, they are good machines, but there are a couple things which would prevent me from getting one. First, they are quite expensive, you will probably pay at least $1000 for a new one, though you may be able to find a used or demo model for a cheaper price. The second reason is that the hose end and electrical connector are nonstandard. This may or may not matter to you but I prefer to be able to use all of my accessories with any of my vacuums, I'm a big fan of universal design. There is an adapter that will convert the hose end to use regular attachments, but the electrical connector is nonstandard, rather than the standard two prong mini female connector that is used by most other electric hoses, the connector is much larger, so you are limited to that particular power nozzle. For me, that's a deal breaker. However, what is important to one person may not be to another, so if you're ok with that limitation, it does clean very well and as Tom said, it's very quiet.
Mike
 
Take your point about not being able to use accessories. It's very annoying that manufacturers use non standard size hoses.

But still I'd love one of these it just oozes quality 😍
 
There are 3 canisters I'd like to own.
Top of the list would be the Aerus
Second would be the Riccar immaculate and 3rd I'd like to try a Rainbow. I'm not sure if I'd get on with a rainbow it is a bulky heavy machine and I'm told the hurricane motor is quite noisy but I could put up with that. Not sure if I'd like having to fill, empty and clean the bowl ever time though it might start to get on my nerves after a while but you just don't know till uve tried it.
I know it's a quality cleaner.
 
riccar immaculate

That does sound like a great machine, I may try and get one of these at the convention in June. Either that or the impecible. I think the main canister is the same on both of those, just a different power nozzle. The only thing that concerns me about these is that they have a circuit board since they have all the controls on the hose, more components to fail. Having said that, I have not heard of any boards failing in these.
You might also take a look at the Riccar Prima, it's a great canister and you can get several different power nozzles for it. It's a very quiet machine but cleans very well. The hose end is 35 mm in size instead of 32 MM, but that's easily solved with an adapter to allow you to use standard attachments, and the electrical connection is standard.
The rainbows I have heard are not that loud, certainly no louder than other vacuums. Of course, you have to maintain them, keep the basin clean and clean the separator every once in a while, not something I would choose to do but many users are happy with them.
 
I will be travelling to Missouri in July I'm hoping to try out some of the Riccars and possibly a few other Vacs too. Oh what fun! :-)
 
Lux Platinum Competition

It just seems like I am not hearing as many rave reviews of the Lux Platinum as I read in the past. I guess because there is more competition now than there used to be three or four years ago especially for the price?
 
price of guardian platinum

I think you could get something that cleans just as well for a cheaper price. A riccar Prima, Riccar Immaculate, or even the Aerus classic. Another top of the line canister is the Sebo D4. A while back there was a very long thread about the guardian platinum, if you do a search it should turn up.
Mike
 
Marcus,


 


Will you be visiting the Vacuum Cleaner Museum in St. James Missouri in July? You would be able to try out many modern day vacuums of most brands as well as the old ones. The Tacony factory is next door to the museum where you can get a tour and watch Riccars and Simplicitys  being made.
 
Mike - n0oxy

Actually, I have a used Simplicity Moxie on the way. It is a little beat up, but I want to see how it compares to other top canisters like the Lux, which doesn't seem to get any love anymore.

Mike
 
Lux platinum, Riccar Impeccable and Miele

Mixman,

The Guardian Platinum is a fantastic vacuum, perhaps the best canister unit (body) made. As Tom pointed out it has super fit and finish and mind-blowing performance that also reminds me of the XXX. Light, twin HEPA, 28' cord and a super display you can actually use. The auto feature works great on the throw rugs in front of the flush and if used all the time, said to extend motor life to 1500 hours from the standard 1200. The new bags are great and the wheels perform well, unlike Miele, in virtually all carpet types. The latest version of the Lux Omniflo power nozzle with the HTM variety of Johnson power nozzle motor motor utilizes a different sprocket and belt that muffles much of the characteristic Lux sound of the earlier nozzles. When you figure in the high quality floor, dusting brush, crevice and Sidekick it is the total package unlike others in the market. I like the high quality urethane hose that is long and flexible along with the updated Tristar hose handle but hate the plastic wands. The upside is the wands are cheap to fix, light and reasonably durable. I ordered the Tristar dust brush and furniture tool due to the positive locks on each. I love the attachments on the top of the wand so I am not always digging into a compartment on the canister body. I also ordered an extra set of wands for the combo rug and floor tool so I have two separate assemblies for the power nozzle and hard floor. I give this machine high marks for the smooth Domel power, long warranty, convenience and a display that is both informative and easy to read at a distance. Some will say that the Omniflo is less aggressive at deep cleaning than the 236 Miele and others. With the green brush roller model HP 48011 it will rival the Miele 236 all day in ASTM testing and love the L-shape. Swiss Aroma scents can be ordered on Ebay from several sources in Europe that fit the scent holder on the side of the machine.

I also have a Riccar Impeccable and it too is a super unit. Like the Platinum it has more power than the Miele and unlike the other two, gets that through a double fan motor. Love the super long hose, quality of the in-house blow molded components and long cord like the Platinum. The Akzo Nobel paint on these units is beautiful. I am not a fan of the membrane switches on the handle as I prefer the single on/off switch and the gorgeous display on the Platinum canister itself. As for nozzle performance, the Riccar is superb, especially if you use Lux or Kirby suds on a regular basis and prefer it to the Miele 236. It is also fairly quiet. I don't particularly care for the double helix, 48497 roller with 11 degree pitch that comes standard on the Platinum's Omniflo to recover dry foam crystals either. I also have the Riccar compact/petite nozzle that is like the Miele 217 but actually cleans well. Sooo quiet and great in small areas like bedrooms and other tight quarters. Bag and filter quality are very good. It, like its sister the Moxie are great units for larger homes especially those shared with dogs and cats. The p/n elbow joints are better than both Lux and Miele. I find this machine to be a better quality unit than comparable Miele units. Dealers make a better margin on Miele so Mrs. Jones is pushed to Miele and the consumables like brush rollers are way more profitable. Downside it this is a full size chassis.

As for Miele, excellent units with annoying design elements like short hoses and cords coupled with high consumables cost. The attachments are lousy for a machine costing nearly $1K. The Marin does not feel like the Silver Moon I had and loved, it just has the 236 nozzle without the fluorescent light and transformer issues that plagued that nozzle on its introduction. The Vorex motor is not as durable as previous versions like the Ametek clone/Miele manufactured motor in mine. A friend of mine from my days at Lux sold a new Miele upright to an office building here to vacuum their lobby. Motor was replaced 6 times last year before they went to sebo. Their older Miele vacuum lasted for years without motor replacement. Miele is so easy to get parts and supplies for, quiet, powerful and also a really good vacuum that, like the other two, will last many years with proper care.

The Lux and Riccar power nozzles are super to work on, the Miele is a PITA. Riccar is assembled in the US with Ametek Mexico motors and I am told assembly of the Platinum is underway @ Lux Bristol. The German quality speaks for itself. You can't go wrong with any of these three units. YMMV

Brian
 
riccar impeccable

I did not know that the impeccable had a two stage motor, that's not very common these days. I would love to know if the immaculate and impeccable are the same canister and just different power nozzles, or if the canister and motor are different as well.
If the Guardian Platinum used a standard hose end and standard electrical connector, I would probably get one, but as I said, I want to be able to use any of my attachments and power nozzles, and if I can't, that's a deal breaker regardless of how good the machine is.
I have a Miele C1 olympus, it's a straight suction model, it works well, though Miele's attachments tend to be expensive. A much better alternative is to get an adapter to convert the hose end to 32 mm, then you have many more attachment choices. The Miele power nozzles are rebranded Wessel Werk nozzles, I've heard they are difficult to work on and have also heard that there are issues with the neck on those. I think the Sebo power nozzles are the easiest to work on, you don't need any tools to remove the roller.
So the Guardian Platinum uses a Dommel motor, from what I have seen, those are very good motors. My Purvac barracuda Central vacuum unit uses a Dommel motor and so does my Sanitaire backpack vacuum. Both are quiet and very powerful, so I'm sure the motor in the platinum is good as well.
Mike
 
Brian

Thanks for the info. I do have to disagree with you on the Miele canisters. I haven't mentioned it before, but I do have a Homecare Deluxe C3 and I love it. Just wanted to wait several weeks to see if the thrill would wear off after a while and it hasn't. It is quiet, the 236 is relatively quiet too and seems to clean very well. Almost as well as my Miele and Sebo uprights. My one dislike is the short hose. I would definitely pay more for a longer one. Having the handle controls makes this thing a joy to use too. Also, more so than many other vacuums the Mieles can be picked up at a bargain price. You just have to call around and negotiate. Got my Homecare Deluxe for a lot less than $1,000.

Would like another quality canister for the upstairs to just have around. Looking into a Kirby too but that's another post. As far as canisters, I wanted to check out brands like the Lux and Riccar/Simplicity brands. Little hesitant on the Lux Platinum though because for such an expensive model you have to bend down to operate the suction controls by hand. Heck you can't even do it with your foot unless you are member of Cirque Du Soleil!!! Not sure I can get on with that so I will probably be on the lookout for a used or demo Lux Platinum to see if I like it.
 
Couple more questions....

What does the Lux Platinum excel at? Trying to figure out why people buy it. As I understand the wand is not adjustable, the powerhead is not height adjustable and the handle doesn't have suction controls. Is it more because there is a fondness for Aerus or is there something that makes this model truly exceptional especially at it high asking price?
 
Mixman.. about how long is the hose on your Miele homecare? Just curious as to how it compares to other brands
 

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