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I have seen one at my aerus dealer. They claim to work by some type of oxygenation and ionization of the water. Have no idea if they work or not. I personally prefer old fashion tide
 
I have sold a few and used one a few times. The work by introducing a small current to a permanent catalyst which converts a portion of the cold water flow to hydrogen peroxide and oxygenated water (think oxyclean without the powder). Works quite well and it does remove a ton of soap residue from your laundry. If I were still actively selling Aerus products it would be the next product I would go after in a contest, as it is, I will probably buy one in the near future. I was sold when I saw what it did for a load of towels and how white and fluffy they were.
 
'Fraid its a scam-a similar device was discussed on the neighboring Applianceville site.Stick with detergent in the PROPER dose.If you use too much causes the excessive detergent that won't rinse out.Surprized "Lux would offer this.This could act as a SUPPLEMENT to detergent use.The version discussed on Applianceville involved Ozone-and adding it to the wash cycle-remember Ozone is an unstable gas-it reverts back to Oxygen after its made-and it is TOXIC-will damage your lungs.
 
After reading about the device on the Aerus site-when they said using it with cold water----STOP!!!!Bad for your clothes,you,and your machine.Excessive cold water loads WILL NOT wash out your body oils(you need warm or hot for that-no matter what you add to the water).The cold loads only will cause mold and mildew to grow in your machine--even Top loaders.The cold will not flush out body oils!!!!The cold cycles are SELDEM used on my machines.And they stay clean.Ozone alone will not get rid of the mildew and mold.Hot water will.And of course keeping the machine's lid or door open when not in use will help greatly-air will flow thru the machine drying it and preventing the moist areas for the mold /mildew to grow.It especially likes the plastic parts on newer machines!
 
No ozone generator in the Laundry Pro. Similar is not the same, and numerous studies and over 6 years of development have not demonstrated any growth of mold or mildew. I haven't used anything other than cold water to wash with in years and don't have body oils left in my clothing or sheets, and I have no mold or mildew in my FL machine, never have. Furthermore, scam is a harsh word, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about. I've seen stains and soils removed with this product. I've seen tests of this product vs. washing with detergents in the recommended water temps and I've seen panels of consumers pick the Laundry Pro washed clothing as the cleaner clothing in more than 97% of the blind tests. So your speculation about a product of which you have zero experience is not particularly valid.
 
I DO know what I am talking about-go to the "Automatic Washer" site-neighboring to this one and a similar device was discussed there-not favorable.I will stick with detergents and warm and hot loads.Good you have favorable results with yours.
 
tolivac,


Since the only one who used the 'similar' but not the same system actually had positive results and every other post was mere speculation I stand by my original post. And once again, the Laundry Pro isn't an ozone generator... and similar isn't the same. Many hospitals, hotels, cruise ships and even the international space station use the same technology and have for years, it is proven not mythology. Keep buying soap and washing in warm or hot water, I'm not trying to sell you anything and I really don't care, but don't disparage something you have zero experience with.
 
Tolivac,


 


Corporate owned Hilton hotels and some Hilton managed hotels, have publicly shared their experiences with the technology . Hilton has even partnered with utility companies and shared their cost savings and results of the commercial versions of this technology.


 


As with any technology, there are a few caveats... it doesn't work so well for odor control on 100% polyester or 100% nylon
 
Sheraton hotels have also publicly stated they use this tech and shared guest comments about the improvement in the appearance, smell and feel of towels and other linens.
 
I Wasn't sure about them because I didn't know enough about them. I may try one now thanks to your information Tom. What's the worse that can happen. My aerus dealer
Would take it back if I am not happy with it
 
I like it, everyone I know that's tried it likes it and if your Aerus dealer is a good one, and your's sounds that way, they will stand behind it. As you say, nothing to lose. If you do get one, keep us posted on your findings/results good, bad or indifferent.


 


Tom


 
 
Mostly capacity. Residential units can process between 3-8 gal/min and commercial versions in the 100's gal/min. Residential units are about 10x14x3 and commercial about the size of a washer, or larger. The internal processes are very much the same, just the number of processing channels is greater in the commercial versions, and those vary based on capacity needed/number of simultaneous wash loads.
 
I have read many of Tom's replies, and he seems well-versed in Aerus products as an Aerus associate. His replies have also shown a concern for the customers to whom he sells--not just the profit he makes from his sales. As a result, I would trust his judgment.

When I have dealt with salespersons--whether vacuum cleaners, footwear, cars, etc.--I typically ask what they personally own of the product. Most of the time you can tell if they're lying because of the look on their faces and whether you catch them off guard. So, if you have an Aerus franchise near you you could ask the associates point blank if they own a Laundry Pro and what problems they have had with it (another red flag would be if they tell you it has no problems--insinuating that it was made in heaven--haha). I will say that one franchise owner, who is a slick salesman (sold his first vacuum cleaner by signing his "friend's" signature on the contract while the "friend" nursed a hang-over--or he wouldn't stop vacuuming), side-stepped my question of "Do most of your family members own Aerus vacuum cleaners?" with the reply "What do you think?" Dumb me--I answered "Yes", and all the liar did was smile his crooked smile. So if you ask "yes" or "no" questions make sure you follow them up with others that require specific information. If I had it to do over I would have followed up with which vacuum cleaners his family members owned and what issues they had with them. I was considering working for him, but after that episode and his way of talking out of both corners of his mouth he really turned me off from selling Aerus products (I figured that's how many of the salespersons were). I've also not had the best experiences when dealing with the corporate office staff that fields email queries. I do think that salespersons should own and use the products they sell, so they can give personal testimonies about the products they are trying to sell as well as showing that they believe in the products' claims. I also hold that salespersons who have been selling their product for a while should be able to sell to their family members and friends (with considerations for gender-specific ones) by convincing them of the effectiveness and quality of the product--not by twisting their arms or manipulating them.

I digress, but the point is that Tom doesn't present himself like that dishonest franchise owner which is why I would believe him along with the fact that he is familiar with Aerus products. And, in this situation, Tom has mentioned that he plans to purchase the Laundry Pro. He wouldn't do so if he had qualms about potential negative affects to his health or the quality of the product. I also appreciate the fact that he mentioned some of the limitations of the Laundry Pro.
 
Not all ozone is toxic btw........

I'd be real curious about what else this machine does to the water besides "activated oxygen". Please don't misunderstand me, I AM NOT debunking this machine in any way, but I've got to be frank here and mention that the term "activated oxygen" has been used by other brands as doublespeak for ozone. I can certainly understand not using the word ozone, it does have a negative connotation.

"Environmental" ozone certainly is toxic because it's made with the pollutants in our air, but most reputable ozone generators actually find a way to keep the device hermetically sealed so that the ozone is produced in a sterile environment. I have a very large generator which has the reactor device sealed inside 2 glass tubes. Pre-filtered air flows through the tube to carry the ozone out of the machine. The thing to remember about ozone is that it reacts instantly to pollutants, then becoming oxygen. There are plenty of technologies we buy into that rely on such an unstable molecule. Take carbon filters on vacuums for odor control. I won't buy them anymore because the carbon becomes used up so quickly due to its immediate reaction with pollutants.
 
Does the Laundry Pro, and others like it, need to meet health and safety standards such as OSHA? Does Aerus actually manufacture the unit or has it been rebranded?

Also, I am wondering if Aerus and other companies are required to provide the results of safety tests and specifications upon request?

With that said, I too would trust Tom's assessment. I am just thinking that the company that manufactures units such as Laundry Pro should provide information to the consumers that prove that it meets health and safety standards in protecting our health and environment.
 
The Laundry Pro is produced by Aerus Holdings LLC by a wholly owned subsidiary, Vollara (Formerly EcoQuest). Ozone is a by-product of the process and it is contained and passes California's regulations and is permitted for sale there and very few ozone creating products are. The 'active oxygen' technology primarily produces hydrogen peroxide, carbon dioxide and small quantities of ozone. All return to water or are released as oxygen over in the washing/rinsing process. Carbon dioxide provides bubbles (carbonation), hydrogen peroxide the majority of the cleaning and anti-bacterial properties along with the residual ozone. One of my not so favorite things about Aerus Holdings, is the secrecy and marketing approach they take. I think the company would be much more successful at a slightly lower price point (the best of the best at the high middle of the price curve) and more transparent marketing perspective. I don't mean they should divulge details of the the patented process, but of the general chemical composition/transformation would be nice. Even as an associate, it's very difficult to get any information. What I have been able to learn has been because I happen to be friends with someone in R&D at Vollara from a previous career. Even that friendship has garnered me only limited access to information due to non-disclosure agreements and corporate paranoia. I've also been fortunate to have sold a few over a period of time and versions and seen the improvements over time, along with the results of use. Is it perfect? No. Can you always use no soap/detergent? No. Can you greatly reduce use of soap/detergent/stain treatments? Yes. Synthetic fibers don't respond as well as natural fibers do, and therefore require the use of soap/detergent. However the amount required is very small, a teaspoon or so for a FL and a tablespoon (3 teaspoons) for a TL and some stains, especially oil and alcohol based substances benefit from pretreatment. As an allergy sufferer, I also greatly appreciate the lack of perfumes and chemical residue in the laundry. I will purchase (or win one in the October sales drive, since April and October are the only incentive months my franchisee participates in. I also know that, at least for me and one other franchise on the east coast, no one that has purchased one has cancelled the contract or had other than positive remarks about the product. I do think that has a great deal to do with the proper setting of expectations and explanation of the limitations before the sale. I also know that since the release of the current version, G4, there have been no units sold locally returned for repair or service. Again, I am not here to sell anyone on the product, I simply objected to the out of hand dismissal of the technology, with nothing other than an opinion and no experience.
 
Thanks, Tom, for a very thorough and straight-forward explanation of how Laundry Pro works along with some honest personal assessments. It sounds like something I may try down the road.

How long has the product been available? Is G4 the model?

Please explain the contract (didn't understand when you mentioned that no one had canceled their contracts). It doesn't sound the same as a vacuum cleaner or shampooer/polisher sales contract, anyway.

I will have to say that I've seen a Laundry Pro infomercial and was turned off by its manipulative devices. I can't believe that such practices are still being used in today's information society. Among other things, do the producers actually think that winks and nods from an actress will convince potential customers that the product is safe, reliable, and effective? It just seemed so "phony-bologna" to me. What a waste of resources ... it didn't impress me at all! Why didn't they really do it up big and add some cartoon characters to give testimonials and sing a little jingle--as long as they targeted consumers with a '50s mentality--to persuade them to purchase?! Sheesh!
 
Ronni,


 


the current model is the 4th generation of the product. The first generation was never widely available and required a fair bit of routine maintenance - more like the commercial models. The second and third generations reduced the size and complexity and the latest no longer has any maintenance requirements at all. The product was first available in 2005-6 (depending on where in the country you are).


 


Another of my gripes with Aerus, their infomercial marketing is the very worst. The CEO, Joe Urso is very 1980's... his expertise is not in running a company but in stripping it of assets and maximizing value of those assets. He doesn't appear to like to hear anything other than how great he is. Just my opinion mind you.
 
And what could possibly be wrong with putting a 50s jingle in a infomercial? If I ever create some product, I'll know to put plenty of jingles in the commercials!
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I got a LaundryPRO from my good friend, who is vice president of Aerus Electrolux. It's wonderful. Really works. Got out the black stain from Mothers Aluminum polish on the terry cloth polishing towel. I'll never have to buy detergent, fabric softener or bleach again. Nor will I have to flush those chemicals into the ocean to kill the fish. Nor will I ever run out of detergent. Nor will I ever have to drag it home. It's worth every single penny. Can't wait for Maytag to build a washer with one built in.

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