A decent "best buy" reccomendations from Trusted Reviews.

[vacerator]

Banned?

We may all be, but we are discussing vacuums. Do not all houses have them to clean with? As you said last evening,(here)much later there by at least 4 hours; even though some live in council houses, they are still done up to the Nine's with quality carpets, etc.
Back in 1993, my ex of eleven years dumped me for a kid 8 years my junior, and I was 4 years my exes junior.
My counselor told me not to make any major decisions for a year, so I put my equity from the house in the bank. I am a model railroader as well, and I wasn't leaving my HO scale Bavarian themed lay out behind. I rented the cheapest apartment I could find. One bedroom (large) about 850 sq. feet. No pool, no balcony. In an older, but still safe (then) area. I set that up in the living room (lounge). I ate off a small drop leaf table. Not about to go without my beloved hobby all cold winter. I also took both vacuum cleaners.

 

[sebo4me]

Toot toot

 

[suctionselector]

Aha!

2point4 children!! Such a great show. It is indeed bloody Thatcher.

 

[turbo500]

Well evidently not Marcus if you insist on policing other people's conversations. Let it flow

Jacob, what's 2.4 got to do with it?

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Thatcher was not responsible for the end of our many industries, the unions were. It were the unions who were striking all the time, over "not enough sugar in the jars" at the Ford factory in Durham for example, silly things like that.

My late father, who was 71 when i he passed away 18 months ago, was from that time. He remembered the piles of rubbish in the streets, the crumbling roads, the fact you could only us electricity certain times of the day, you cold only have a few inches of bath water the list goes on and on. That was until Thatcher.

She came from a working background. She introduced the right to buy and help the buy schemes. the shifted people living standards. The poor were less poor, the richer were richer.

She wouldn't put up with the unions holding this country to ransom ever winter. She stopped Britain going down the path of Greece and Spain.

Oh and on top of all of that, she protected the Falkland islands and put the Argies in their place.

 

[sebo4me]

I'm no fan of Maggie Thatcher but you can't keep subsidising unprofitable businesses can you.
Britain was the sick man of Europe in the 70s and it was mostly down to powerful unions. That had to change.

 

[sebo4me]

Well said Mr Olive oil

 

[vacerator]

Unions, etc.

The conservatives (many do) not all blame all the fault on the unions.
Hold on now? At least here, since 1980, many gave back concessions to keep their jobs. Lee Iacoca paid back the Chrysler loan guarantees to the government early in fact, before 1983.
What helped do that was the modest price of K cars and their first mini vans.
Also the fact we still had a fairly prosperous middle class.
Two tier labor contracts came about in 1987, causing dissention among the ranks, but it kept companies profitable, and still brought in union dues.
Some of the fault is to be validly blamed on unions, but not all of it.
Excess Greed mostly. We sent hundreds of thousands of jobs to Mexico, Japan, then Taiwan, Korea, and then China. You would think profits would be sky high with cheap labor. Yet, General Motors went bankrupt in May 2009, and Chrysler a second time. They caused trickle down unemployment of over 35% of their own customers. Then the banks. A $200 billion dollar tarp rescue bailed them all out.
Now they are profitable again, and employees received big profit sharing dividends this year. What I find also mazing id that the government has not faultered one iota in operating, nor paying benefits to indigent people.
We still have an illegal alien problem from south of our border because those jobs we sent there pay them lousy, so they sneak up here.

 

[sebo4me]

I'm afraid left wing policies have never worked and never will.
The middle ground is the place to be.

 

[sebo4me]

Can we get back to vacuums now this is not a political forum.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

No, this is not a political forum but this is what conversation does.

You are right, sebo4me. Liberalism has never worked and never will. A majority of the world has conservative, right-wing government. Liberalism is a fairytale, ideal, something that doesnt exist but whos supporters want to exist.

It was in fact a labour government (left wing, kind of like democrats in the US) that sold most of the UK's gold reserves when gold prices were at a record low and who gave away control of our boarders, responsible for million of net immigration numbers into this country overwhelming every part of our life. These are facts.

Relating this back to vacuums and what i said about buying a western made product over a Chinese one, there is nothing wrong with that. I dont care if the Chinese product has a metal sole plate, they will find ways to cut corners. Plastics which are marked up "ABS" are in fact not ABS plastic, but a cheap tacky backalit type with lead in them. The Chinese do this.

 

[vacerator]

ABS plastic

ABS plastic is not the trouble. Miele uses it. General Electric chemists figured out how to make it more resiliant to impact by adding polymers.
Balance is the key to a successful economic system. If you put garbage in, wether it is left or right winged , all you get is garbage back out, as we all saw last decade.
I support capitalism, as long as it works. I do not like Chinese type commie block housing, nor GYRO or welfare slackers who are able to work.
I will close this discussion by saying that those who are low income earners but work and are productive deserve a better standard of living than they currently have in the USA.
Nothing an be free, but it can be more affordable. Folks do not send kids to college on $25 thousand gross annum income.

 

[suctionselector]

Chris

It was mentioned above by Alex, he quoted the bit when Bill is in the hospital complaining about 'Bloody Thatcher'.

 

[vacerator]

Jacob, Sebo, Turbo500, etc.;

Nice green upright. is that a Hoover, or a Lux product?
I know, the few of us had a go around with the Thatcher subject, etc.
I used to wonder who did her grocery shopping, and wether they did it at Morrisons, Sainsbury's, or Tesco. I doubt she had the time once she made it to Parlaiment. So there was another job created with social public supported tax money.
Question if I may to Sebo, Turbo500, etc.
If the wealthiest continually get wealthier, while the working class continually get's poorer, is that not Liberal of they, the wealthiest?

 

[turbo500]

The upright is a Hoover Turbopower U2332, 1986 - 89.

RE: Mrs. Thatchers shopping habits, back in those, Morrisons didn't exist down south and Sainsburys didn't exist in the North. The south was all Sainsburys and Somerfield, whereas up here, we had Morrisons and Asda. Tesco was fairly nation-wide at the time. We also had Presto's and Gateway which were largely northern-based, and nationwide Fine Fare, all of which are now defunct.

The regional supermarkets aren't really a thing anymore, with the exception of Fulton's which don't operate down south.

I suspect Maggie T would've had her shopping delivered from Harrods or Fortnum & Mason. Possibly Waitrose. London-based and very high end.

 

[vacerator]

Turbo500, shopping

Harrods of course! I've heard of Waitrose. Do they carry a lot of organics, like our Whole Foods here? We also have Trader Joes, a high end subsidiary of Aldi now.
ASDA is Walmart if you don't already know.
Tesco is supposed to be coming to the States.
Kroger is nearly the largest food retailer now, having bought so many former family owned chains up.
Safeway has been bought by a venture capital firm, I think maybe Cerberus. No, they have sold it again to an international concern.
That leaves Albertsons from Denver Colorado and west as the other largest domestic owned chain. The mid west and east is either Kroger, Meijer in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana, Giant Eagle from eastern Ohio into Pennsylvania. One family owned chain in western NY state survives, Wegmanns. Voted number one to work for.
The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea co. has become rather small. Having gone through bankruptcy last decade, losing several of it's former banners. The former German Haub family totally divested. they were known as Tangleman/Haub in Germany.
In the way down south, it's Piggly Wigly, and Winn Dixie, and of course, Kroger.
A discount dept. store chain, Target, has also entered food retail.

 

[parwaz786]

You forgot about Waitrose!

 

[vacerator]

Paewaz86,

I also forgot about Publix, a very large Florida based chain which also operates in Georgia.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Sainsbury's is the most classy and upmarket, big supermarket! Waitrose is okay, it is like M&S, couldn't do my whole shop there, they don't really have a large variety.

I couldnt shop at Asda, so, so common!

 

[vacerator]

ASDA, Alex;

I also never shop at Walmart. Here, it is below common. Trailer trash. May as well be in old Peckham on the gang infested estate.

 

[parwaz786]

Asda has everything! Been to Tesco and its friggin like 3X more expensive than Asda! Like £2.79 for a bottle of coke, but 99P in Asda

 

[vacerator]

shoppimg, cont.

speaking of shopping, time to head to my local Meijer, then Target. Then I may head over to the Sommerset mall for some spring wardrobe items.
Nordstrom store, and Nieman Markus (needless markup). Comparable to Selfridges or Marks and Spencer.
Did you know Mr. Selfridge was born in Chicago, and got his start from his wife's fathers money? They were a Jackson Michigan banking family.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Are you too good for asda then, Alex? You do realise they sell all manner of branded goods. I find tesco has actually got trashy and i certainly wouldn't call sainsburys upmarket.

I actually enjoy shopping in Lidl, although i find all of this varies from store to store. My local lidl, you find expensive, new cars parked outside, and nearly all of the doctors at my GP shop there as well. If the Germans wont put up with crappy cars or vacuums, they are not going to put up with crappy food.

 

[turbo500]

We shop at either Sainsbury's or Aldi. Purely because they're nearest to our house. I do like Morrisons though, especially the fresh fish counter!

In my experience, there's absolutely no difference between any of the big 4 (Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda and Morrisons). They're all much of a muchness. Their own brand stuff varies, but for branded items, there's very little difference.

I'm not keen on the layout and decor of Asda near us and our nearest Tesco, despite having a great world foods section, is always very messy and the staff are quite rude and unhelpful. It's like a bloody car boot sale sometimes with things thrown all over the place and people snatching and grabbing around you. But in terms of the products they sell, they're all pretty much the same.

Tayyab, 1.75ltr Coke-Cola in Tesco is £1.95 vs Asda which is £1.75, so I think you were exaggerating a little there. It's currently on 2 for £2 in Tescos.

Waitrose is definitely the nicest shopping experience, but it's expensive. Having said that, it's still cheap than the Co-Op!

 

[sebo4me]

I shop in Asda, I shop in Tesco, I shop in Sainburys.
I'm losing the will to live! Yawn yawn!

 

[marks_here]

Aldi's is great as we have one not to far from where I live also Sav-A-Lot isn't bad also.

 

[turbo500]

Oh are we boring you, Marcus? Nobody is forcing you to read this. If you're bored, the simple solution is to stop reading, go do something else and let us carry on our conversation.

 

[sebo4me]

You sound like a bunch of women. Haha

 

[vacerator]

HaHa? Aldi Yes also!!!

No, not women. Just keeping up appearances like Hyacinth Bouqe't.
I do like Aldi as well. They hardly ever have the Duetsche Cook brand of Spaetzel
or the small chocolate covered cookies though from Germany. The sauer kraut is also delicious.
Germans do not tolerate bad food. I make Munchner schnitzel, and sauer braten every October for Oktoberfest. With celery root, but not ginger snaps. Almond sour cream bundt cake with Nutella filling.

 

[sebo4me]

I'm out on the town now guys or should I say women
Enjoy your supermarket chat