a couple of new central vacuum units

[n0oxy]

another Canadian company

I think there is another Canadian central vacuum company, they are called Alegro or something similar, I'm not sure if they just sell accessories or if they actually make units.
The closest Cyclovac dealer is several hundred miles from here, I'm guessing they are not as common as some of the other brands. MD is another company that chooses not to sell their units on line, personally I think this is a mistake but it is each company's choice.
Yes, with several Cyclovac units, you can choose your filtration method, I would choose bagged only, that is the best way to go in my view. The first central vacuum unit I got, a Beam 275 was bagless and I hated emptying it, I was almost to the point of being willing to give it away. I was able to convert it to use bags and this is far better. I still don't use that unit very much because it is by far the loudest unit in my collection, even with a muffler.
Mike

 

[panasonicvac]

There is a brand that Cyclovac privately makes that is sold through online, it's called Galaxie. Unlike Cyclovac, there are less options to choose from and they can only use one filtration mode. Some are bagged, some are hybrid, and some are cyclonic.

Personally, I'd rather buy from a dealer. I don't trust buying new vacuums from websites unless if they were discontinued that I would add to the collection.

Luckily with Beam since they were recently bought by Nuera Air, all of their bagless models are now hybrid.

https://www.mycentralvacuum.com/

 

[n0oxy]

galaxie and beam

I had heard of Galaxie but I didn't know that Cyclovac made those. I knew Beam had been sold to the company that makes Duovac but I didn't know that they started making their systems hybrid. Many of the Beam units could be converted to use a bag, I converted mine, I did not like emptying that at all when it was bagless. Switching to a hybrid is a very good thing for the Beam brand.
I have bought several of my central vacuum units on line and have not had any problems. Actually the only ones I did not buy on line were my Beam 275 and my MD Flomaster M85. Speaking of MD manufacturing, I was looking at the specs for their newest models, they are a bit lacking. With their silent master line, they are only using 5.7 bypass motors, Ametek makes bypass motors in sizes of 6.6, 7.2 and 8.4 but MD doesn't make models that use those. Actually when it comes to getting the most power for the price, those Drainvac units are probably the best. the imperium brand also has really good prices, those are basically the same as the Vacumaid units.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

a couple more units

Here are a couple more central vacuum units I am looking at. Not sure how many more I will get this year but I would like to get a few more.
First we have the Duovac Star.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/centra...-power-units/duovac-star-8-gallon-system.html
And then there is the Galaxie ga-200, this one sounds awesome.
https://www.mycentralvacuum.com/galaxie-vacuum-ga-240-central-vacuum-power-unit-p/ga-200.htm

 

[panasonicvac]

You might want to check with the plug on the Galaxie. I know with Cyclovac, some of the dual motor units come with different types of plugs for certain outlets like the ones that are used for either in the garage or in the basement. But I will say this, Cyclovac makes one of the finest systems on the market. If I were to pass on MD and had to choose on what my next option would be, I would pick anything that is made by Cyclovac. Mostly the ones that are sold through dealers.

The reason I wouldn't buy new vacuums online is because I wouldn't want to get into the shipping business. For example; If I were to get a part from a dealer, I wouldn't have to pay for shipping. Thinkvacuums requires consumers to pack up and pay shipping on defective items which is usually more than compare to what a dealer would charge, especially from the store that I worked at because we offered discount labors to anyone that would buy from us.

 

[blackheart]

Galaxie

Okay those specs are fishy. A dual motor setup is either parallel which specializes in flow or Series which provides higher lift. I'm going to guess that they took each motor's specs and just added them together.

 

[luxflairguy]

Blackheart! Explain why!

 

[vexorgtr]

Central Vacuums are a huge source of corporate incest.... Meaning that there's about 4 plants that make 50 brands. A look through the accessories section will easily prove my point.

I've got a very mixed up system here, but it kicks butt... Nutone Inlets & Pipe, Imperium Motor, Allegro, Vacuflo and Nutone hoses......Lindhaus and Intertek power nozzles......and a bunch of other parts with no names on them. It still kicks butt.

 

[blackheart]

Here's an example

In a parallel motor system your suction will be equal to what each single motor can create they are pulling at the same pressure but you do have a boost in airflow as you can see from this vacuums specs this appears to be the case.
I was going to pull up an example of a series motor too but The only one I can think of is an old Broan CV40...D? I think but the problem is I don't have specs for that. I can get motor specs but without machine specs they're kind of useless

 

[blackheart]

oh!

Sorry for the double post I just came across this article from vacumaid

8 central vacuum motor FAQ answered by Ametek

4. What happens when two or more motors are connected in (air) series?
In this arrangement involving bypass motors, the working air exhaust from the first motor is directed to the fan intake of the second motor, providing for a significant increase in the vacuum performance at small orifice conditions with no appreciable increase in CFM. We don not recommend the used of two through-flow motors in a series connection as the heat from one motor is transferred to the second motors creating an overheated situation.

5. What happens when two or more motors are in (air) parallel?
This arrangement usually involves two or more motors mounted in the cover of a large container. Each motor’s fan system is working from the same air space. In this case, air flow (CFM) is significantly increased at a large orifice conditions with no appreciable increase in vacuum.

This is what leads me to believe they just added the numbers on that Galaxie.

https://vacumaid.com/8-central-vacuum-motor-faq-answered-by-ametek/

 

[n0oxy]

motors in series and parallel

I'm not sure on this but I think that most two motor systems use a parallel configuration which would, at least in theory increase the airflow. However, the airflow will still be restricted by the hose and pipes so I'm not sure if anything is really gained from that configuration. I would think a series configuration would be better, this will increase the suction, also known as waterlift. Apparently this configuration can cause motors to fail sooner since the exhaust from the first motor is being fed in to the second one.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

going to get the Drainvac Viper

I've decided to get the Drainvac Viper, this will be my 10th central vacuum unit for my collection. Since I use all of my units without pipes, I will also need to get some more utility valves. I attach them to the intake of the units and then connect the hose, so the utility valve basically functions as an adapter to allow the hose to connect directly to the unit. This will be the most powerful unit in my collection, I'm not sure how they get this much power using one motor but it should be awesome.
Mike

https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-viper-4-gallon-system.html

 

[ritawilliams]

I think that for me one of the BEST vacuums is the Eureka Mighty Mite, I have had this one for about 4 years and It seems to running with no problems, I should also add that if anybody wants to buy a vacuum they should visit https://devices4home.com/best-bagged-vacuum/
. It is full with valuable info on vacuum reviews although there are plenty more vacuum sites out there, just do your research before buying.

 

[ritawilliams]

These are great vacuums and I like them , I must say, I have seen the reviews online and they seem to be worth the buck, there are tons upon tons of vacuums out there on review sites but I think that for me at least the Dyson cyclone takes the cake

https://devices4home.com/best-vacuum-for-tile-floors/

 

[n0oxy]

Viper is awesome

I got my new Drainvac Viper, it's awesome, very quiet and delivers on the power. I'm actually surprised that more companies don't use Domel motors in their central vacuums, I think they are quieter than the motors made by Ametek.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

more central vacuum units

I'm hoping to get a 240 volt outlet installed in my apartment at the end of this month, not sure if this will be possible yet since the apartment is on the second floor and the breaker box is in the basement but I have an electrician coming to take a look. If I get the new outlet, there are definitely a few 240 volt units I'm going to see about getting, and here they are.
The unit I am most interested in is the Drainvac Twin Turbo, based on the specs, this is probably one of the most powerful units on the market.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-twin-turbo-9-gallon-system.html
Then there is the Duovac Distinction, one interesting thing about this unit is that the CFM is a bit low at only 106, that's very low for a central vacuum, especially a 240 volt two motor model.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/duovac-distinction-9-60-gallon-system.html
The last 240 volt model I am looking at is the Galaxie GA-240.
https://www.mycentralvacuum.com/galaxie-vacuum-ga-240p-central-vacuum-power-unit-p/ga240p.htm
Of course, if I can't get a 240 volt outlet installed I will have to skip these units but hoping for the best. Actually, if a new outlet cannot be installed, I'm going to ask them to check if all of my outlets are on the same phase or if some of my outlets are on the opposite phase, if I have some outlets on each phase, I can get a converter that will combine the two phases and this will provide 240 volts.
I'm also looking at a few more 120 volt units, these are probably some of the most powerful 120 volt units that are available, the Drainvac Viper would definitely fit that category and I already have that one.
First we have the Galaxie ga-200.
https://www.mycentralvacuum.com/galaxie-vacuum-ga-240-central-vacuum-power-unit-p/ga-200.htm
Then there is the Drainvac Turbo.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-turbo-9-gallon-system.html
And last but not least is the Duovac Star.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/duovac-star-8-gallon-system.html
I have decided that, for the foreseeable future, when it comes to expanding my collection that central vacuum units are the way to go because they are the most powerful cleaners available. I know there is anew model Rainbow coming out some time soon and I had thought about trading in my E2black for the new model but I'm going to hold off on that. Even with a trade in, the cost of the new model Rainbow will still be at least the price of one of these central vacuum units and I know for sure that the new Rainbow will not be as powerful as a central vacuum unit.
Mike