a couple of new central vacuum units

[n0oxy]

It's been a while since I've bought any vacuums, and I'm looking to add a couple more central vacuum units. I don't use them with pipes, just attach a utility valve to the in-take and connect the hose. Using them this way makes for a very powerful canister cleaner. So, here they are, probably going to get them in the next couple of weeks. First is the little giant.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-little-giant-4-gallon-system.html
And then there's the power house, nice name for a central vac unit.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-powerhouse-4-gallon-system.html
They both come in 4 or 9 gallon models, I figured I would just get the 4 gallon one, though I wonder if the 9 gallon version would provide better airflow, not sure on that. Once I get these I will have 10 central vacuum units in my collection.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

alternative to little giant

Instead of the little giant, I may get this one instead, it's the Purvac L170, it's a 700 air watt unit. Interestingly, the Purvac units are also made by Drainvac which is the company that makes the units I listed in my first post. It's interesting that they make vacuums with their own company name, Drainvac, but also make units under the Purvac brand name. Why not just make everything under one brand name, or maybe it's common for companies to do something like that, not just with vacuums but with other things, to make products under more than one brand name.
Mike

https://www.thinkvacuums.com/purvac-l170-3-75-gallon-system.html

 

[blackheart]

Hmm

I saw in another thread that you have a Purvac Barracuda which is very similar to the
drainvac.

If you're looking to add something different I'd like to suggest the Allegro MUA75 Zenith? Why? It features a HUGE 8.4" motor it has a max amp rating of 13.8 the flow rating and suction ratings are also quite good.

I'm mainly suggesting this cause i've had my eye on one, I just don't know anyone who has one .

 

[panasonicvac]

Drainvac recently updated their lineup. I'm not sure what's new about them. Sadly their Booster models have been discontinued, I've been wanting to try those out to see how powerful they really are like the DV1R18 for example since Drainvac isn't common in my area.

I don't know about Purvac, they don't have their own website so it's possible that Thinkvacuums owns that brand.

 

[blknblu]

My DrainVac AC2605-C from 2005 is still going strong.
It was removed from my old house and replaced my parents old central vac unit from the 70's

 

[vexorgtr]

I've always been a fan of...

The Linday manufacturing brands.... That would be Astro Vac, Valet, Vacumaid, and Imperium... all the same stuff.

 

[n0oxy]

purvac web site and 8.4 motor

Purvac does have a web site which I will include here. I actually have a central vacuum unit that uses the Ametek 8.4 motor, the vacumaid SR800, it's a bagged unit with 713 air watts and it uses the Ametek 8.4 bypass motor. Yes, I think Lindsay manufacturing makes good vacuums, they make the Vacumaid model I just mentioned, I also have their garage vac pro, that one uses a 5.7 inch motor and has a hose in-let right on the unit.
I don't think Purvac is a think vacuums brand only but I could be wrong on that, yes I do have the Barracuda model and it's awesome. When you go to their site, it defaults to being in French so you will need to switch to English.
Mike

https://www.purvac.net

 

[blackheart]

oh!

I wasn't aware you had an 8.4" unit already. Doing a search I see snippets here and there on the forum but overall what do you think of it? Are they loud compared to other central vacs? Does it out perform the others?

 

[n0oxy]

8.4 motor

It's not any louder than most other units, and it is quite powerful. The unit is fairly large in order to have enough room to hold the large motor. The one thing I don't like, and this is more related to the unit itself rather than the motor is that there is no manual override switch on it. So, since I use all of my units without pipes I had to connect a short wire from the utility valve to the wire terminals on the unit and sometimes these tend to come loose. With my other units, I just put the valve on the in-take and use the override switch, much easier. I think that's something all units should have.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

If I had a 240 volt outlet

So, I went ahead and ordered the powerhouse unit that I mentioned in a previous post. I really wish I had a 240 volt outlet in my apartment, if I did, I would definitely get one of these units, I can only imagine what connecting a hose directly to one of these and using them without pipes would be like, probably incredible power.
First we have the Drainvac Twin Turbo.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-twin-turbo-9-gallon-system.html
And then there's the Purvac Killer Whale.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/purvac-killer-whale-9-gallon-system.html
Both of these sound like awesome powerful beasts. If I ever do own a house, I'm definitely getting a 240 volt outlet.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

today

According to UPS, I should get my new Power House central vacuum unit today, so excited. I have a utility valve ready to be put on to the intake so I can use it without pipes. Nothing like opening a new vacuum, I don't know about anyone else but I think opening a new vacuum is awesome, there's just something special about it.
Mike

 

[vaclab]

Mike,

Looking at the specs for the Drainvac Twin Turbo Central Vacuum System, did you see how much power it draws?

15.5 Amps @ 240 Volts = 3720 Watts (3.72 kW)!

That'll certainly "dim the lights" hahaha!

I did get a laugh at an obvious error in their product description though.

"The Twin Turbo was first designed to be used for commercial applications with its crushing max 1,436 air-watts (suction power)."

Airwatts is NOT suction power. Airwatts is the product of suction times airflow and that quantity divided by 8.5 for a specific diameter hole. But most people definitely won't catch that. At some point, I'd love to test central vacuums systems...

Bill

 

[n0oxy]

new poer house is awesome

When I got home today, my new central vacuum unit was waiting for me, it definitely lives up to its name. It has found a nice home next to my night stand in my bedroom, I hope it is happy there, it seems to be. It's very quiet but very powerful. I did not use any pipes, just put a utility valve right on to the intake and connect the central vacuum hose, it's very powerful, one way you can test the power of a vacuum is to see how fast it can spin a turbo brush, this thing spins the rug rat turbo brush very fast, it's a very good central vacuum unit. I know many central vacuum companies use Ametek motors, Drainvac uses motors from Domel and they seem to be just as good.
Regarding the 240 volt central vacuum units, yes, that does draw quite a bit of power, if I ever live in a place that has one of those outlets, I am definitely getting one of those units, that would be awesome. If I get any more units, I will need to also get more utility valves, I just used my last one for the new powerhouse.
Mike

 

[panasonicvac]

Ahhh I see now

That website you've posted about Purvac was international, no wonder I couldn't find it. But there's still no local retailer near me, in fact they don't have one here in the states other than Thinkvacuums. If I were to pick which Canadian made unit company I would use in my home, I would pick Cyclovac since they're the easiest to find and do business with in my area.

 

[n0oxy]

Canadian central vacuum companies

A lot of central vacuums are made in Canada, Cyclovac, Canavac, Drainvac, Purvac which is a brand made by Drainvac, and Duovac.
I don't think Cyclovac sells their units on line, or if they do, none of the major on line vacuum stores sell them, but they sound really good. There are no stores in this area that sell them either that I know of.
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

120 volt two motor units

These two systems are interesting, they use two motors but run on 120 volts, and the amp rating is about the same as a one motor system. I'm wondering if this is per motor or if the motors used are just smaller. I think the highest amperage you can get from a 120 volt outlet is 20.
First is the Drainvac Turbo.
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-turbo-9-gallon-system.html
And then there is the Purvac Great White
https://www.thinkvacuums.com/purvac-great-white-9-gallon-system.html
Both of these sound awesome!
Mike

 

[n0oxy]

Drainvac Viper

This unit also looks awesome, I'm thinking these units use flow through rather than bypass Domel motors. Supposedly bypass motors last longer but flow through motors seem to offer more power, it's interesting that they can get this much power with just one motor.
Mike

https://www.thinkvacuums.com/drainvac-viper-4-gallon-system.html

 

[panasonicvac]

Cyclovac is only exclusively sold through dealers. They also make for several brands including Riccar and Simplicity but what I like about Cyclovac the best is they offer more models to choose from. They also give you an option of choosing which 3 filtration modes you would want to have whether it's bagged, hybrid, or cyclonic.

Aqua Air used to be made in Canada but they moved the production here in the states. And ACV (All Canada Vac) was sold here for a period of time, they even made units for a US company labeled as "Mountain Central Vacuum Systems", but they left the US market.

 

[panasonicvac]

Excuse me

Not all Cyclovac units would give 3 mode options. The compacts for example are bagged only and some of the commercial models can be used for water filtration.