a bargain at 99p on ebay

[jmurray01]

I would if I didn't think it'd get me banned!!

If you have noticed I've been very kind to Dysons as of late (well, on here anyway...), being the good obedient boy I am.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well of course Electrolux didn't have 'Hoover' stamped on the front. I do think I missed something here, sorry.

 

[jmurray01]

I think Alex was being a bit flippant and sarcastic Benny.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Jamie would be right in that I was being flippant (*sigh* as usual!) but my main point that I do mean is that Electrolux didn't have the class.

 

[jmurray01]

You could be right, but then again they did have the all metal cylinders which were certainly somewhat classy!

 

[alexhoovers94]

well, certainly in uprights...

Look at a catalouge scan of Electrolux Twinturbo's and 600 series and then look at a catalouge scan of Hoover Turbopowers...A difference in aesthetics I must say...At least in my opinion.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Oh I see, well in that case I am pleased to advise that Electrolux were very much a high-class brand. Hoover and Electrolux were virtually the only brands which one could find on sale in any electrical store and were universally accepted as quality; Goblin was the only 'cheap' brand that was well stocked, and it was pot-luck as to who was selling what other brands.

 

[sebo_fan]

I don't think its "class." Infact its a totally inappropriate word where Hoover is concerned. Hoover vacuums in the UK never really exuded class, but rather were better built as VR rightly suggests and went on the back of their "beats-as-it-sweeps-as-it-cleans," selling principle. They were also far more robust than a lot of its peers but they were also traditionally heavier than most of their rivals too.

Electrolux did things differently though and buyers took advantage of more technical features that were more user friendly. If that's called Class, I'll go with it.

 

[alexhoovers94]

"buyers took advantage of more technical features"


 


What, better filteration and a bag whistle?

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, quieter running for starters and lighter weight. And didn't the Z500 eventually have variable suction control?

 

[alexhoovers94]

To be fair, I don't see how a consumer could of known how loud or quiet their new vacuum they were about to purchase would be.


I will agree the Senior is much heavier than an Electrolux 500 but I doubt the Junior would be heavier and if it was, it might be something to do with the higher quality...

 

[vintagerepairer]

The Which? magazine used to be a useful resource for all sorts of things, not least vacuum cleaners, and noise was always featured in their results. It must be remembered that up until very recently vacuum cleaners were very expensive purchases and a good deal of consumers would have been keen for an in-store demonstration first, whereby noise could be experienced first-hand.

 

[anthony]

i think

some of the earlier Electroluxes [the Zs]were every bit as durable as there Hoover counterparts i have four here considering the youngest of them is almost 50 years old i would say thats durable and if you want to see quality try taking one apart then do the same with say a goblin of the same era youn will soon see what i mean

 

[alexhoovers94]

Benny...

Although the 500's had quiet motors, they had noisy brushrolls...That doubled together, would that not make up to the same noise level as a Hoover Junior? Plus the Juniors sound much nicer to listen to in general, I don't think that growly brushroll noise would of appealed to the consumer, but I could be wrong.

 

[vintagerepairer]

I agree but what I mean about Electrolux was they designed cleaners which worked well, were great quality, but also were built to last a good deal of years and to gradually wear out in the process. Most cleaners could easily be restored to new, but many consumers considered that they'd had good use from theirs already. A Hoover senior or Junior on the other hand could last forever. It's a good job for Hoovers sake that most consumers got sick of them after a few years.

But then take the Starlight, High Power Compact, and Turbopower machines which were riddled with faults. Not so much gradually wearing out, more falling to pieces from day one in so many cases.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Alex....

You don't need to tell me about the noisy brush rolls, as I repaired a good deal of 500 cleaners in my time and know this. Indeed my own mother had a 504 in 1975 and when using it on the loose carpet squares upstairs, the noise in the room below was outstanding.

 

[sebo_fan]

Just found this on EBAY UK from a seller who is selling an old Which magazine. Take what you will. (Jan 1979)

 

[vintagerepairer]

This cleaner was way ahead of it's time, but with poor marketing and numerous other, more established and cheaper models still on sale alongside of it, there was no way it would ever take off. Realistically, it should have replaced the Senior cleaner in it's entirety, in the same way that years later the Turbopower 2 was to take over from the Turbopower, but Hoover never did so.

 

[alexhoovers94]

As you can see, there is little difference between the weight of the Junior and the Z500.


 


500 Twin from 1973...


 


Sorry about the dodgy placement of the picture!

 

[alexhoovers94]

And the Junior Dirtsearcher from 1975...


 


Again, sorry about the dodgy placement of the picture!