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FWIW, I have a Sebo D2 with the same mini turbo brush, and find it worthless for getting cat hair off the sofa. Just moves it around without actually picking it up. The standard upholstery tool stowed in the back of the vac, however, gets it all up in one swipe. You'd think the opposite would be true, but give it a go and you may be surprised. Some things just work better than others on certain fabrics.

The optional Sebo flat upholstery tool is also very good for pet hair, as it has a row of stiff bristles that seem to comb the hair out of the fabric. Might be worth trying that instead, and seeing if your dealer will allow you to return the mini turbo head?
 
The SEBO mini turbo tool is the same design that Miele supply for their vacuums with very few cosmetic differences. Quite a few brands also use the same Wessel Werk design. Thus there should be no problem in using that tool.

I do second what Spira says though - SEBO's standard upholstery T shaped tool with the D series is great at picking up pet hair and much lighter in the hand when used with the hose and handle.
 
That is the mini turbo I received.

What is the premium D4? It came with extra hose and mini turbo, parquet floor brush, on board tools, and the 12" PN.

I'll try the upholstery brush. I know my house sounds filthy and right now it is - lol - but I was counting on the mini turbo for the one set of stairs that is carpeted. That also gets a lot of dog hair.

It doesn't help that spring is near and Bailey sheds and blows his coat. It wasn't this bad in the beginning I was so thrilled that he shed twice a year. Now it's all year long.

Thanks for the replies I'm going to giving this a lot of thought and experimentation.

Best,
Dori
 
The Premium D4 is what we get in the UK that is the cleaner itself, the 3 accessory tools that store inside the cleaner, the standard floorhead, and the ET-1 electric power nozzle, that Roger shows in his video.


We get lower models of D series but these are called the D2 Storm, D2 Titan, and D2 Total. All these models have no electric power nozzle supplied with them. Only the D4 Premium has the power nozzle that you have in the US. In the UK the D4 doesn't come with the mini turbo brush - we have to buy that as an extra accessory.


 


Pet hair can be a right pain, and its all dependant on the type of material that it gets on, and the length of hair, that decides how difficult it is to remove with a mini turbo brush - whoever makes it. Long hair will get wrapped round the roller, so these tools tend to be better on short hair. Also bear in mind that to drive the turbine fast enough, the air hole between the turbine and  the brush roll chamber is quite small, and this can get clogged easily, so always check it - you can open the brush housing to check the turbine and the air passages, and you should do this regularly - with any turbo brush, not just Sebo's.
 
I've found that using a turbo brush for my stairs is a lost cause - it just bogs down too much, no matter what vacuum I attach it to. A mini electric tool (Wessel Werk HEB160 or the like) would work, but those are rather expensive. What I did instead was pick up a Royal Prince hand vacuum on eBay, which works a charm. They're also ridiculously durable, pretty much the same tried-and-true design as a Royal upright shrunken down to handheld size.

My couch is leather, so I haven't tested it there, but it does work on my dining room chairs which are otherwise cat hair magnets in the extreme.
 
Air turbine brushes depend on extremely high airflow from machine to run brushroll and thereby not having nearly as much to clean with. Unfortunately for the UK the Riccar / Simplicity lines are not yet available. However the Riccar/ Simplicity lines really have tremendous air flow!! I found that running a Riccar 1700 canister on medium High out did a Sebo D4. Running the Riccar 1700 on Full strength was more power than one would need for just about anything. I used to always run the Riccar 1700 on Medium power most of the time at a clients home that had one of these. Medium was sufficient for bare floor cleaning, upholstery and many other things, but for turbo nozzle usage I set the unit to full power. Running power nozzle I generally set the unit to Medium High

Sebo D4's are good units. However I always found myself tapping the "+" button on the hose to increase airflow. It was so quiet I had a hard telling when the machine was at full top speed and pressing the button wouldn't do any better. I found the spinning light around the power switch to be a poor indicator of the power since it usually took a few presses to get the light to slow down even though motor was audibly slowing down. The Riccar machines are simple, you press the "+" button and the green light moves up the scale from one of 6 speed settings to indicate where you are!! Additionally High speed was too powerful for many tasks but it was wonderful that powerful a speed was available for when an extra tough job arose!!

Here's a picture of the Riccar 1700 that my house cleaning client and house I used to live in had. Really great, well built machine.

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Hi Dori

I think you have still made the right choice. The D series will fit in with your home based on its size, cord length, long hose, power and capacity.

Try the T shaped upholstery brush on the pet hair by all means - I find it difficult to fathom how the mini turbo brush suffers on carpeted stairs - I find it does the job perfectly where dog hair is concerned and unlike so many mini turbo brushes on the market that haven't used the Wessel Werk design, not many open up properly to clean the brush roll and some actually have pesky screws that need to be undone.

I don't want to offend you but if your home hasn't been used to that type of mini turbo tool before, there is every possibility that the wheel inside the turbo brush has become stiff with initial use - add a drop of 3 in 1 oil or lubrlcant oil (not WD40 as it is water based and won't last a long time) to make the brush roll spin freer.
 
If you were able to return the Sebo, the amazing Rainbow might be a great match for your home. You can get the magic mop attachment and the little devil mini power nozzle for cleaning that annoying dog hair. In fact, with an in home demonstration you can see how well the machine works in your home.
 
Dog Hair and the Sofa

Dori,

If you have excessive dog hair on the sofa, the path of least resistance to a clean sofa is to attack it with the Sebo ET-1. Using the turbo tool is like taking a knife to a gun fight, especially if the sofa looks like a polar bear. For some reason the above floor tools and turbo brushes on the German units leave much to be desired. The same with their hoses.

For your Central unit, a Lux, Lindhaus, Riccar, Wessel or Sebo kit serve you well. Motor in the EBK 360 is Chinese vs the 340 which is not. I am not, nor was I ever a Hayden/Cen-Tec nozzle fan.

As for the D4, it is probably the best unit for your application in such a large home. I have one with the ET-1 I like but don't love. Cord length, hose length, and the best power nozzle money can buy are its best features. The attachments are its downside. It is a little clunky in the real world. Very high quality machine and excellent filtration. A good vacuum if you use one hard. It, along with the Moxie, Lux Platinum, Miele Kona/Marin and Rainbow are top shelf. Remember that almost every hospital in America uses a vacuum with a Sebo nozzle. The 12" performs better in the real world than the 15" does.

My feeling is the best unit as far as convenience, weight, performance and quality is the Lux Platinum so if you return the Sebo go there. The OmniFlo nozzle is not quite as aggressive but the machine has significantly more power than both Miele, Sebo and Rainbow and the best quality attachments made like the combo rug/floor tool. You will like the electric Sidekick III and the flexible urethane hose, light ABS wands, and dual HEPA filters with pets. The Moxie series would be my second choice and equally as nice a unit but less money and USA made. It has similar performance to the Lux and bests both Sebo and Miele when it comes to the numbers.

I have had all of these units/combinations mentioned above in my home for a long time. All the nozzles mentioned do a wonderful job and in more than a decade with Lux found all to remove about the same amount of soil from my carpets when used on a regular basis. The key is to do a quck traffic area vacuum daily (10-15 min) and good thorough cleaning once a week. This avoids a situation where you buy carpet by the yard and throw it away by the pound.

Brian
 
You know, I would love to see those members who feel that th

The Sebo mini turbo tool does not get all the cat hairs off my computer chair - they still keep clinging on.


Sebo is great yes, but it is all dependent on what type of material is being cleaned, and the amount, or type of soiling.

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Ironic that you go on about being childish, in the other post that our webmaster has added regarding ignoring members on here.

Cue your example above.

One would assume you were 17 years of old the way you go on about your ways on here, Steve.

The same connector that you "claim" has problems (yet I don't know how you fathom how since you don't appear to have owned a D4 Premium, so where's the evidence) would be the same one added to the K3 Vulcano if you want to upgrade in the future with a PN.
 
You and your big ego

Try and message me - you'll find I didn't block you. That's really sad of you to think otherwise. Besides the posts can be read when you log out. Haha

I don't care who blocks me though - I didn't join this forum to put up with negative people like yourself.

I could quite easily not bother coming back to this forum and happily receive the wonderful American newsletter that I've signed up to receive.

You're constantly nitpicking other brands, other models, Chinese built things and when someone comes along with a new model, you're there with the constant negativity - only need to check HiLo's post about Hotpoint as an example.

If someone makes a point that goes against your opinion, you won't let it go - I however won't back down, so if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, by all means leave if you wish. I'll still be here.

As for my "self inflated" importance - better than your self inflated ego and the "voice of doom."

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Keep sending me your abusive messages, Steve.

What a sad old man you are!

Its evidence you're building up for yourself by slandering me. All messages you've sent including your last one have been screen shot saved.

I'll show the members on here your latest if you wish.
 
Hi all: I don't have time to read all the comments and after skimming they seem so interesting.

I'll be back with a response in a day or two.

Have a great day.
Dori
 
What I'd sell you for is the Riccar Brilliance (R30 models) or the Maytag M1200..

We equip our newly redesigned tandems with the soft sweep bare floor tool so you automatically have the best carpet/rug cleaning performance and great bare-floor performance.

Check and see if you have a Riccar/Simplicity 30day dealer in your area. You are always guaranteed your money back if you don't like the machines.

If you went with the Riccar Brilliance R30, the Simplicity S30 or the Maytag M1200, you'd be amazed at what you'd pick up.

For the price, two Maytag M1200's would be perfect. They are $699 each, and you'd have one for each floor. After that, I'd suggest looking for a rebuilt Rainbow with the SuperMop or some form of wet pickup head for your bare floors. You'd have all of your surfaces covered.

The other suggestion, since you have central vacuum already, is to get a water/air separator that way you would be able to use your existing equipment as well, then you could do the wet pickup on the bare floors.

As far as my experience, I have yet to see a machine clean better than the tandem air machines from Tacony.

Just my $.02.
 
I think you should buy vacuum from https://bestvacuum.reviews/vacuum-under-200/ in here you will find many vacuum in reasonable price and you can clean your home easily. For me cleaning your home by yourself through vacuum is the better option because in future you can also use vacuum again and you don't have to pay. But if you call maid you have to pay to her/him and next time if you want to clean your home again then you have to pay to her again. Better buy vacuum for yourself.
 
just get a tristar cxl for down stairs and get a new kit for your central vacuum whit a 30 foot hose and Lindhaus power head and voila or get two hose one up stairs one down stairs and problem solve
 
As much as I like sebo vacuums. Since you have the central vacuum piping I'd highly recommend that you upgrade that! You can get a central vac kit that uses the sebo powerhead if you like that.

Here is a short video on the system I have in my house which is about the same size.
 
I agree with @vacuumdevil. I have a house of similar size to yours and a MD central vacuum with the Vacuflo Edge powerhead kit. I believe it's the white variation of the Wessel Werk 360 powerhead. I've never had a powerhead clean this well. I also have a HAH outlet that's basically used for the hardwood floors on the main level of the house. If two of us are cleaning, one of us uses the central vac and the other uses the Sebo Felix. I wouldn't necessarily recommend the Felix as your primary machine if you're cleaning up a great deal of hair or need to use the attachments frequently. Don't get me wrong, it's a great machine and the hose is convenient to grab things off surfaces at waist height but without buying an additional kit, the hose is quite short and there's no extension wand. In between weekly cleanings, I use the Dyson V8 Absolute to keep frequently used areas under control in terms of dog hair. Growing up my mom kept a central vac kit on each level of the house and that worked well for her.
 

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