Miele bags and filter generic options

[vegassucks]

I purchased the following on Amazon and offer the following opinion.

Generic Bags: 5 bags and filters for $8 which is $1.60 per bag or a $2.40 per bag savings from the OEM bags. I do not see a big difference in the quality between the generic and the OEM bags, maybe a slight edge to the OEM bags as they have a closing flap but for the savings worth considering.

Generic Hepa filter: I paid $11 for the generic filter from Amazon. This is a $38 saving from the OEM brand. The fit and finish is exactly like the OEM filter less the words Miele on the side. This is a no brainer, why would anyone pay $38 more? The generic Hepa-filter is the clear winner.

 

[vegassucks]

Hepa filters

Take a close look, a $38 saving is huge and worth giving the generic a try.

 

[piano_god]

IMHO, there's two machines you should never use an aftermarket bag or filter on: Miele and Filter Queen.

While the 3M (EHCPNA) bags tend to be the better aftermarket, they still leak fine dust into the bag chamber on a Miele. The genuine AirClean do not. The aftermarket HEPA's use inferior media that will not filter to genuine specifications. In addition, the aftermarket HEPA's are more restricting to the airflow, hence the machine runs hotter.

Why would you spend good money on a high-end machine and be proud to save a few dollars on the expendables that will compromise its filtration and airflow? Your experiment with aftermarket will void the warranty, too...

Personally, I have fifteen Miele's in my collection. Over the years, I've tried the majority of aftermarket bags and filters in my "beater" s314i, and NONE have come close to matching the genuine.[this post was last edited: 8/31/2013-15:56]

 

[singingrainbow]

When using generic bags in Miele's you must be very careful, I have used them in the past for our red star but never in a new machine.


Is this for that home care you just bought? Because if so then using these copy bags and filters just invalidated your warranty, I can say this with experience as I work for a miele service center.


Plus these bags do damage to the machines innards over time, we have repaired machines where copy bags either burst, leaked, or let too much dust into the motor.


 


Use at your own risk!


Scott

 

[joshdonnell]

Generic bags and Generic Filters

Will Void your warranty. I only use Genuine Miele bags and filters. And that goes for all my bagged vacuums. My Rainbow i bought a Generic filter . I think thats ok tho. And plus its an older Rainbow .

 

[vegassucks]

Snake oil, that is what you are selling when you state these bags and filters are some how going to destroy your machine. These generic bags are actually made by Electrolux and there is a good chance the generic filter is made by the same company that manufacture the Miele brand and put their name on it.
The same BS Is used with automobile oil filters,you must use the OEM. Than you find you find out that the OEM issues the same third party manufacture as the generic. If you really are convinced that using a generic Hepa filter really will destroy your machine than waste your money.

I can tell you that the Miele GN bag does leak even with a seal. The only person who will try to scare you away for using generic bags and filters are the dealers who mark up these items as mush as 80%. If you want to argue that I want to support my local dealer by purchasing from them, I will agree with that argument as a valid reason to purchase OEM bags.

I can tell you that the dealers by me sell Generic bags for every make they sell and mark them up about 50% Internet pricing. Oes the fact you paid more and purchased them from a dealer make them better?

 

[singingrainbow]

It's your warranty to void and your money to waste.

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

I think the general consensus here is would you put cheap gas and Wal-mart tires on a BMW? I think I remember someone saying exactly that on this forum some time ago.... and the sewing machine mechanic told me that when I brought my Bernina in for a tune up loaded with thread from Joann's instead of from his store... LOL


I have had a problem with aftermarket bags in a Miele... 2 Mieles actually. I bought some aftermarket DVC brand FJM bags for my Miele Plus S251 canister years ago... I thought they would be the same because they were the same synthetic cloth like material and they were not paper. Well, I've had 3 of them burst! The side seams split wide open and dirt got all in the bag chamber... had to clean it out with the Dyson. It was a mess each time. I thought I'd learned my lesson. I got the Miele S7 upright a few months ago, and the bag that came in it was genuine Meile. It was pretty full, yet there was not even an ounce of dust in the bag chamber. I noticed in a video on Youtube that Govacuums.com had made their own bags and they were supposed to be the same quality as the genuine Miele U bags... I bought a box. I've been using the cleaner for a few months and, well... you can see by the picture below what the result is.

I'm a slow and stubborn learner, but eventually catch on... For me, from now on, NO aftermarket products for the Miele, period! I'm not claiming that I know for a fact that using an aftermarket product will run your machine, but there is typically a difference in quality... I buy aftermarket bags for soft bagged, fan first machines all the time, but it's a machine where the air goes through the motor, I've learned not to do that.

Hope you have better luck than I did )

 

[vegassucks]

it your money

My OEM GN Miele bags leaks, period. It's your money and you need to spend it the way you want. Your not driving down the freeway at 80 MPH in ur mIele so the tire comparison is silly.

Another excellent choice, it's your money.

 

[vegassucks]

This is the OEM bag

See the dust leaking. I have only used the OEM bag, they are no better than some of the generics.

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

That does look pretty bad... are those paper or the synthetic cloth like material?

 

[singingrainbow]

If your miele is leaking that much dust into the bag chamber then something is seriously wrong, did your miele come packaged with the hyclean or airclean bags?

 

[vegassucks]

OEM bag

This is the bag, OEM has not been changed.

 

[singingrainbow]

To be honest, I am stunned.


I have never seen an S8 with that much dust leakage.


In this case, if the copy bags don't leak as much than I would use them!

 

[vegassucks]

Might be a defective bag

The bag may be defective? I do believe the Bag Go Vac sells is just as good as the OEM. While arguments against premotor filters might be valid as some manufactures are inferior to the OEM. The Hepa filter to me is worth the savings. I do belive this after market Hepa filter to be the exact same quality as the OEM.

 

[joshdonnell]

Miele bags

I use the oem bags and they dont leak . I might be something your picking up.

 

[vacman117]

That is most definitely not normal for your machine to be doing that. I have never seen or used a Miele that leaked that much dust, and every one that I have owned and used has had a genuine Miele bag. I would replace the bag with another genuine one and see what happens. If the problem persists I'd take to your dealer and see what they think...


 


Chase

 

[singingrainbow]

I echo what chase said, wipe out the chamber, put a new genuine bag in, and if it does this again then take it to a service center and have it fixed under warranty.


Scott

 

[piano_god]

The bag leakage shown occurs when the machine has been used after bag door is opened and the collar on the bag has not been pushed back into its slot. Therefore, you always make sure the bag collar is all the way in the slot before closing the bag door and using the machine...