So I was thinking the other night, during the early to mid 2000s almost every vacuum brand had some single cyclonic or filter in the bin bagless dirt cup system. Which ones do you think where the best and which where the worst?
2000s Bagless Systems
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super-sweeper
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Both were God awful!
Especially those late 90s bagless Hoovers...all the filter cleaning! The horror!!
They were dual cyclonic, but my vote goes for FANTOM!
Especially those late 90s bagless Hoovers...all the filter cleaning! The horror!!
They were dual cyclonic, but my vote goes for FANTOM!
blackheart
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Hmm..
The best?
I'd say the best ones were the Dirt Devil platinum force upright, and the hoover windtunnel twin chamber machines (with the diverter). Both of them had fairly short airpaths and larger filters which I feel gave them an edge over most of the available machines.
The worst?
The Eureka Maxima. It had a smaller filter which clogged instantly and probably 5-6 feet of hose for the air to flow through. It is probably the worst vacuum i have ever used.
The best?
I'd say the best ones were the Dirt Devil platinum force upright, and the hoover windtunnel twin chamber machines (with the diverter). Both of them had fairly short airpaths and larger filters which I feel gave them an edge over most of the available machines.
The worst?
The Eureka Maxima. It had a smaller filter which clogged instantly and probably 5-6 feet of hose for the air to flow through. It is probably the worst vacuum i have ever used.
kirbyvertibles
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I would have to agree the dirt devil was probably about the best at that time. I have one of those and I recently took it all apart to service and the motor was surprisingly fairly clean. Then I took my Bissell lift off apart and the motor was absolutely filthy, one of the worst I have even seen. Both vacuums had about the same amount of usage.
suckolux
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Agree! I had one given to me, OMG I think it needed cleaning every room.
vacuumlad1650
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I do!
vacuumlad1650
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What was Eureka thinking?
hvrvaclvr
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The Whirlwind performs very well. But that dirt cup was just a disaster. It was hard to empty and clean the second chamber that the "cyclone" was in.
floor-a-matic
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XXX DuoPower; U had TWO dirt containers to empty. Large one for larger debris; smaller container (where filter is located) behind the large container holds the fine dust/dirt
suckolux
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you have to know, after trying to use it and give it away, it got parted out!
henrydreyfuss
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My family owned a Whirlwind back when I was growing up..
The bagless system wasn't very efficient, but better than anything Eureka produced for about 15 years afterward. The real problem was that the two pre-motor filters were extremely thin, and not sealed, so they let a ton of dirt into the motor. Our first-gen Whirlwind (that I begged my Mom for haha), had a burned out-motor after just a year of use. I took great care of that piece of garbage too. My parents were furious!
At the time we didn't have Dysons in the US, and I thought the style of the Whirlwind was so radical and different, in yellow and gray, with a clear hose. I didn't know that Eureka had just blatantly copied Dyson, their bagless tech, and their style!
Eureka got sued over that vacuum by Dyson, and they're still playing catch-up with their horrible bagless models, which finally have dual-cyclonic filtration again.
In the US, the late 90's and early 2000's were a pretty dark time for bagless vacuums, and department store machines in general. Not to say they're all great now, but there are much better options than there were, and a lot of companies learned from their mistakes, after a decade of high-maintenance, weak-performing, poor-filtering machines. A lot of those early bagless offerings were huge and heavy too, and their on-board tools were nearly useless![this post was last edited: 11/29/2015-17:02]
The bagless system wasn't very efficient, but better than anything Eureka produced for about 15 years afterward. The real problem was that the two pre-motor filters were extremely thin, and not sealed, so they let a ton of dirt into the motor. Our first-gen Whirlwind (that I begged my Mom for haha), had a burned out-motor after just a year of use. I took great care of that piece of garbage too. My parents were furious!
At the time we didn't have Dysons in the US, and I thought the style of the Whirlwind was so radical and different, in yellow and gray, with a clear hose. I didn't know that Eureka had just blatantly copied Dyson, their bagless tech, and their style!
Eureka got sued over that vacuum by Dyson, and they're still playing catch-up with their horrible bagless models, which finally have dual-cyclonic filtration again.
In the US, the late 90's and early 2000's were a pretty dark time for bagless vacuums, and department store machines in general. Not to say they're all great now, but there are much better options than there were, and a lot of companies learned from their mistakes, after a decade of high-maintenance, weak-performing, poor-filtering machines. A lot of those early bagless offerings were huge and heavy too, and their on-board tools were nearly useless![this post was last edited: 11/29/2015-17:02]
Most bagless vacuums-clean their way to the dumpster!Or they wait out their final life on the curb--waiting for their pressing fate in the trash truck!
durango159
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I don't like the big filters sitting in the middle of the dirt cup like what Dirt Devil did most of the time!!
This Altima really annoys me though. Mainly cause the foam filters accomplish basically nothing. I have taken in and restored about 6 of this style machine over the years and have told myself never to do it a again. The entire machine, every part just gets caked in dirt!!
The dirt cup only really retains large dirt particles. When you take that out there is a mess of dirt all around the dirt cup compartment. There is a foam filter compartment just above the dirt cup. This filters turns horrendous in a just minute of vacuuming and power of the vacuum decreases quick. It's a foam overlay on a white felt like material. Don't worry this dual filter combo doesn't stop a heavenly layer of dust from forming on the plastic intake towards motor area behind the filter!!
The motor areas of these machines are filthy. The headlight is kept in its own separate compartment and all of those compartments are always caked in dirt and the bulbs needs cleaning on each of the machines I've worked of this series!!
This Altima really annoys me though. Mainly cause the foam filters accomplish basically nothing. I have taken in and restored about 6 of this style machine over the years and have told myself never to do it a again. The entire machine, every part just gets caked in dirt!!
The dirt cup only really retains large dirt particles. When you take that out there is a mess of dirt all around the dirt cup compartment. There is a foam filter compartment just above the dirt cup. This filters turns horrendous in a just minute of vacuuming and power of the vacuum decreases quick. It's a foam overlay on a white felt like material. Don't worry this dual filter combo doesn't stop a heavenly layer of dust from forming on the plastic intake towards motor area behind the filter!!
The motor areas of these machines are filthy. The headlight is kept in its own separate compartment and all of those compartments are always caked in dirt and the bulbs needs cleaning on each of the machines I've worked of this series!!
reo580
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Ah- The 2000's bag-less machines..... Good Times Good Ti
Most of the pictures of the late 90's to mid 2000's I saw on this thread made me smile and chuckle. I was working as a vacuum cleaner repairman in the mid 2000's. God, how I hated those bagless machines!!! Especially the yellow and gray dual chamber Eureka Whirlwind- That was my enemy #1.
I remember that people would see them on TV - and buy them. Then they would never maintain them and by the time they were on my repair bench, they were pretty much FUBAR'ed beyond any hope. Another laugh I got at that time was their owners were incredibly cheap- they's balk at a $10.00 belt job.
My favorite was that most of the Jon Q's that bought them thought that "Bagless" meant "maintenance-less". I can remember calling a customer with a quote and he was shocked that it needed new belt and filters "But it's Bagless!! It shouldn't need any of that" he said over the phone as he then blew a gasket and threw a hissy fit over the final cost of the repair.
At the time we used Compressed air to blow out the housings of the machines. Most of them were in pet households. My biggest pet peeve ( no pun intended) was when I would blow them out and the stench of "PET" would blow all over me.
That would really make my day.
But I digress, seeing the photos of some of those machines brought back memories and gave me a good laugh.
Most of the pictures of the late 90's to mid 2000's I saw on this thread made me smile and chuckle. I was working as a vacuum cleaner repairman in the mid 2000's. God, how I hated those bagless machines!!! Especially the yellow and gray dual chamber Eureka Whirlwind- That was my enemy #1.
I remember that people would see them on TV - and buy them. Then they would never maintain them and by the time they were on my repair bench, they were pretty much FUBAR'ed beyond any hope. Another laugh I got at that time was their owners were incredibly cheap- they's balk at a $10.00 belt job.
My favorite was that most of the Jon Q's that bought them thought that "Bagless" meant "maintenance-less". I can remember calling a customer with a quote and he was shocked that it needed new belt and filters "But it's Bagless!! It shouldn't need any of that" he said over the phone as he then blew a gasket and threw a hissy fit over the final cost of the repair.
At the time we used Compressed air to blow out the housings of the machines. Most of them were in pet households. My biggest pet peeve ( no pun intended) was when I would blow them out and the stench of "PET" would blow all over me.
That would really make my day.
But I digress, seeing the photos of some of those machines brought back memories and gave me a good laugh.
